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Gun bill gets shot down by panel (VA Tech - On Drudge)
Roanoke.com ^ | January 31, 2006 | Greg Esposito

Posted on 04/16/2007 9:48:10 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182

A bill that would have given college students and employees the right to carry handguns on campus died with nary a shot being fired in the General Assembly.

House Bill 1572 didn't get through the House Committee on Militia, Police and Public Safety. It died Monday in the subcommittee stage, the first of several hurdles bills must overcome before becoming laws.

The bill was proposed by Del. Todd Gilbert, R-Shenandoah County, on behalf of the Virginia Citizens Defense League. Gilbert was unavailable Monday and spokesman Gary Frink would not comment on the bill's defeat other than to say the issue was dead for this General Assembly session.

Virginia Tech spokesman Larry Hincker was happy to hear the bill was defeated. "I'm sure the university community is appreciative of the General Assembly's actions because this will help parents, students, faculty and visitors feel safe on our campus."

Del. Dave Nutter, R-Christiansburg, would not comment Monday because he was not part of the subcommittee that discussed the bill.

Most universities in Virginia require students and employees, other than police, to check their guns with police or campus security upon entering campus. The legislation was designed to prohibit public universities from making "rules or regulations limiting or abridging the ability of a student who possesses a valid concealed handgun permit ... from lawfully carrying a concealed handgun."

The legislation allowed for exceptions for participants in athletic events, storage of guns in residence halls and military training programs.

Last spring a Virginia Tech student was disciplined for bringing a handgun to class, despite having a concealed handgun permit. Some gun owners questioned the university's authority, while the Virginia Association of Chiefs of Police came out against the presence of guns on campus.

In June, Tech's governing board approved a violence prevention policy reiterating its ban on students or employees carrying guns and prohibiting visitors from bringing them into campus facilities.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; larryhincker; oldstorynotbreaking; rkba; secondamendment; selfdefense; vatech; virginiatech
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To: Lucius Vorenus
When the Gipper died, they had to get power-lifters [power weight lifters] from each of the services...

I believe that had more to do with the size and weight of the coffin itself and not what was in it. That was no simple pine box Reagan was put to rest in. It had more metal in than most late model cars have.

61 posted on 04/16/2007 1:00:42 PM PDT by PsyOp (Self-defense is a part of the law of nature - Barclay)
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To: Anti-Bubba182
Virginia Tech spokesman Larry Hincker was happy to hear the bill was defeated. "I'm sure the university community is appreciative of the General Assembly's actions because this will help parents, students, faculty and visitors feel safe on our campus."

That sure worked. /s

62 posted on 04/16/2007 1:03:12 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (¡Bienvenidos a los Estados Unidos de Amexica!)
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To: Anti-Bubba182
In June, Tech's governing board approved a violence prevention policy reiterating its ban on students or employees carrying guns and prohibiting visitors from bringing them into campus facilities.

Only 21 dead so far. Let's give this a chance, people. /s

63 posted on 04/16/2007 1:04:51 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (¡Bienvenidos a los Estados Unidos de Amexica!)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

A school with a vaunted Cadet Squad and a ‘no-carry’? Did they practice with broomsticks?


64 posted on 04/16/2007 1:07:10 PM PDT by StAnDeliver
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To: Redcloak; liberallarry
You gotta ping him Red. Even if he is in his groundhog hole bemoaning the fate of spring and dreaming of global swarming...
65 posted on 04/16/2007 1:10:38 PM PDT by StAnDeliver
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To: BJClinton
Virginia Tech spokesman Larry Hincker was happy to hear the bill was defeated. "I'm sure the university community is appreciative of the General Assembly's actions because this will help parents, students, faculty and visitors feel safe on our campus."

Since the gun-grabbers are making political hay out of this we might as well. This quote and story needs to be sent to the every victim's family.

And don't forget to add one little P.S. to the quote and story:

Title 18 United States Code, U.S. Criminal Code
PART I, CHAPTER 13, SECTION 242
Deprivation of rights under color of law

Whoever, under color of any law, statute, ordinance, regulation, or custom, willfully subjects any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District to the deprivation of any rights, privileges, or immunities secured or protected by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or to different punishments, pains, or penalties, on account of such person being an alien, or by reason of his color, or race, than are prescribed for the punishment of citizens, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both;

and if bodily injury results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include the use, attempted use, or threatened use of a dangerous weapon, explosives, or fire, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and if death results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include kidnapping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, shall be fined under this title, or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be sentenced to death.


66 posted on 04/16/2007 1:16:26 PM PDT by archy (Et Thybrim multo spumantem sanguine cerno. [from Virgil's *Aeneid*.])
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To: Donaeus

Bump for later reading


68 posted on 04/16/2007 1:19:40 PM PDT by Donaeus (God bless the Heros who defend us at every hour, no matter the cost.)
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To: Anti-Bubba182; Abram; akatel; albertp; AlexandriaDuke; Alexander Rubin; Allosaurs_r_us; amchugh; ...
"A bill that would have given college students and employees the right to carry handguns on campus died with nary a shot being fired in the General Assembly."





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69 posted on 04/16/2007 1:32:39 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: AZRepublican

“Drunken college kids with loaded weapons? I don’t think so.”

Living in a gun-friendly state like Arizona must scare you to death.


70 posted on 04/16/2007 1:54:25 PM PDT by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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To: Anti-Bubba182
Virginia Tech spokesman Larry Hincker was happy to hear the bill was defeated. "I'm sure the university community is appreciative of the General Assembly's actions because this will help parents, students, faculty and visitors feel safe on our campus."

This is going to rank right up there with Chamberlin's,

"Peace in our Time"


71 posted on 04/16/2007 2:15:33 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Kevmo; NRA1995

The translation there is: “It’s better to FEEL safe than to BE safe...”


72 posted on 04/16/2007 2:16:21 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: pianomikey
Fight the good fight.

Uh... that's FOOD fight.

73 posted on 04/16/2007 2:16:50 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Dave Olson
Utah has never had a school shooting.

Muslim's there just blast away in the shopping malls!!

74 posted on 04/16/2007 2:17:33 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Phosgood
Media Hoe on MnNBC already harping that “all it takes in Virginia to get a handgun, is a driver’s licence”.

A nappy one??

75 posted on 04/16/2007 2:19:20 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: JamesP81
Actually, I take this article as progress.

Dude - the article is dated January - the shootings happened TODAY...how is this "progress?"

76 posted on 04/16/2007 2:23:41 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Ben Franklin, we tried but we couldn't keep it.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Dude - the article is dated January - the shootings happened TODAY...how is this "progress?"

As I said, when a legislator can propose something like this without getting railroaded completely out of town, that's worth something. Not that that did the VT students any good today, but maybe if we keep pushing it will do them some good down the road.
77 posted on 04/16/2007 2:30:26 PM PDT by JamesP81 (Eph 6:12)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

A bill that would have given college students and employees the right to carry handguns on campus died with nary a shot being fired in the General Assembly.

Virginia Tech spokesman Larry Hincker was happy to hear the bill was defeated. "I'm sure the university community is appreciative of the General Assembly's actions because this will help parents, students, faculty and visitors feel safe on our campus."

78 posted on 04/16/2007 2:33:18 PM PDT by bigjoesaddle (If Gandhi were President instead of Ronald Regan, we would be calling one another "Comrade" now.)
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To: PLMerite

>Living in a gun-friendly state like Arizona must scare you to death.

It almost scared me a couple of years ago when it was attempted to permit carrying weapons into bars. I’m all for carrying weapons during general every day activities and what not, but I just think there also needs to be a wall placed between booze and social gathering. I don’t think the two will mix anymore then drinking and driving does. So a bar owner should be able to say NO GUNS allowed.


79 posted on 04/16/2007 2:45:45 PM PDT by AZRepublican ("The degree in which a measure is necessary can never be a test of the legal right to adopt it.")
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To: AZRepublican

“So a bar owner should be able to say NO GUNS allowed.”

Especially when that “guns-free school zone” thing works so well.


80 posted on 04/16/2007 2:50:59 PM PDT by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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