Posted on 04/16/2007 7:14:16 AM PDT by LexHoskin
Gunman on Campus; Stay inside your building, away from windows; Shooting incident at West Ambler Johnston Hall
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Well, the public WANTS to know, but really has no need of it.
And it is imperative that whatever you claim as fact BETTER be fact, so there’s no reason at all to tell people stuff until you are absolutely sure.
Remember the reaction when some ill-conceived words made people think most of the miners were still alive last year?
I think that’s why we still don’t know it was “one gunman”. They haven’t said “two gunman”, they simply won’t state as fact that it was “one gunman”, because they simply don’t know for a fact. Until they match bullets, there’s no reason to tell us there is only one gunman.
In the meantime, I presume they are looking for every suspect that has been described by hundreds of students who were around the 2 scenes. That takes time and effort.
Reconciling the different stories will take time as well.
We live in a world where we want all the facts right now, but I’d rather they be real facts.
Look at the poor asian guy who likes guns and goes to Tech — for hours people were calling him the gunman, because Fox News released inaccurate information rather than waiting until they knew.
Due to China's "one child" policy, the male/female ratio is unbalanced due to girls being aborted (couples want sons to take care of them in old age). The under-14 population imbalance is now 53%/47%. The net result will be a lot of aggressive young men with no marriage prospects
It will not be pretty
Just read this article in our local paper about preparedness at Florida universities. Basically they said it’s a hard thing to secure a large campus. They practice scenarios (as I’m sure the VaTech officials did)...but ever situation is different. Securing a large campus is virtually impossible. They even mentioned the problem of possibly locking the perp in with the students if you didn’t have enough information.
The last paragraph has an interesting idea though. We use it for our neighborhood association when there is an emergency or crime in the area. The alert would be sent to go out to student’s cell phones. Granted not every student has a cell phone, but most do and could pass on the “word” to those who don’t.
Seems like this method would be more efficient than email. My kid’s in college, I think he only checks his email once a day.
Here’s the article link:
http://www.sptimes.com/2007/04/17/Worldandnation/Sprawling_universitie.shtml
Well, you are wrong. It may not be a national tragedy, but it is definatly a tradegy for the Commonwealth of Virginia. VT is a huge school, and it is hard not to know somebody who went to VT or goes to VT. I graduated in 2000 and everytime I see those pictures of campus it just tears me up. All I can think about is how one legally armed student or proffessor could have saved many lives. Virginia Tech is a great school but after the incident in August and now this I think people will be very hesitant to go there or go back.
Allow armed citizens. It’s simple. If you don’t want to let just anybody, then implement a “school marshall” policy like the air marshalls. Students who are of age and have CCW can apply for a marshall’s license, and will train with the local police force. Then they carry into their classrooms. Probably puts an armed citizen in every floor of every dorm and every building with classes. Won’t stop the initial wave, but they can respond quickly, and the perps think twice about even starting something knowing that armed response could be through the first door.
I heard something on Bill Bennett’s show this morning about one of the professors being a holocaust survivor. Do you know if there is any info on here about him? Is he on your list? The one name sounded like it could’ve been the guy. I want to know more about him. I just cried when I heard. I heard he was a hero.
The Romanian professor( I am hearing on Bennett) was a Holocaust survivor, who survived THAT to throw himself in the path of the shooter as he approached his classroom to protect his students.
I am overwhelmed. He was an American citizen who had immigrated from Israel. God is certainly telling him "Well done, my good and faithful servant".
Saving on my list.
see #4240
You are still more likely to be hit by lightning on a college campus than be shot and killed by a random gunman.
But nobody calls for a lockdown every time thunderstorms are predicted.
And I bet you are more likely to be in an earthquake in Japan than be shot on a college campus in America.
Do you know anything else about this guy? I was listening to Bennett too and heard about him and I would like to know more.
If this “Mr. CHO” got the guns, it could be that he was able to do so easily being a US citizen, that is, if he is the Korean (or Korean-American) being discussed in this morning’s Washington Post (not by name yet), who has parents in another part of Virginia, in Northern Virginia I believe. And of course, he could have then gotten them for a Chinese student who is on a student visa who would himself not be eligible to buy them under an H-1 student visa. Let’s see what shakes out.
Shep Smith on FOX may have just sunk lower than his performance on the bridge in NOLA during Katrina. He had his cameraman pan around, to show the hundreds of newsvans and camera trucks, and then compared the scene to a “big football game on campus”
The chef of police sais TWO doors were chained. I believe that statement was made in the 7:30 news conference.
Exactly.
Re the Israeli professor who gave his life to save his students..it should also remind us that Israelis face this threat EVERY day, and have done so for decades...
I think its useful to consider this rare event in the same way we think of tornado’s, or lighting strikes.
You cannot prevent a human from this kind of sick twisted meltdown. Likewise, you cannot put a school inside a ‘fort’ and expect it to do its job, teach.
Would somebody that was armed have made a difference? Maybe.
But from what I’m reading about this - and hearing - it occurs to me the shooter was very very proficent.
Handguns, and 30 plus dead, and another two dozen wounded, in 21 minutes?
Somebody spent a lot of time at the range with those pistols.
Mass shootings on the other hand, are something we Americans did not have much of until the last thirty years or so, and are purely human acts, statements of evil born out of the sick, depraved, lack-of-respect-for-human-life society we must all somehow live in.
Wonder if the shooter shaved his body like Mooselimb terrorists do??
Pray for W and Va Tech
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