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Shots fired at Virginia Tech (AP: 33 dead, 15 wounded)
http://www.vtnews.vt.edu/story.php?relyear=2007&itemno=248 ^

Posted on 04/16/2007 7:14:16 AM PDT by LexHoskin

Gunman on Campus; Stay inside your building, away from windows; Shooting incident at West Ambler Johnston Hall

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TOPICS: Breaking News; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; rkba; secondamendment; selfdefense; vatech; virginiatech
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To: DCBryan1

I think this killer was a highly trained soldier.


3,641 posted on 04/16/2007 7:28:50 PM PDT by Porterville (All hail the Prophet Gore, an ass dressed in a lion's skin)
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To: Jedidah

I hate it when they talk about testing the security by calling in bomb threats. We have had a rash of bomb threats in our schools here in Maine.


3,642 posted on 04/16/2007 7:28:56 PM PDT by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghan Honor Roll students.)
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To: Windcatcher

What’s the coincidence?


3,643 posted on 04/16/2007 7:29:29 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: tcrlaf

Hmmmmmm . . . not an exclusively individual thing . . . at least suppliers helping the guy arm.

The thicken plots.


3,644 posted on 04/16/2007 7:29:30 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD!)
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To: myrabach

I’m still learning the workings of this forum (I don’t know how to reply to mail messages yet, lol and not sure where they come from either).

I was replying to a post about this situation and went off on a tangent about how we’ve been teaching our children to not fight back, against everything it seems. I probably didn’t state what I meant accurately.

But that was my thought - why don’t we fight back more? I sit here safe at my computer today, too, so like you, I’m not judging anyone, just questioning what we’ve been teaching all these years. I like to think I’m more of a fighter, I know I’m a fighter but not in this particular instance per se, but I know I’ve fought back on a few occasions. I hope I’d fight when it really counted.

It brings me back to the whole Imus/Rutgers thing. How could academic scholar/athletes with so much going for them allow some stupid radio personality ruin their day, let alone their sense of self worth? I’d be damned before I allowed someone that power over me.

It all just makes me question what we’re teaching our children today and how we keep lowering the age of adulthood and responsibility. We’re raising a country of wussies, imo.


3,645 posted on 04/16/2007 7:30:07 PM PDT by Twink
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To: PhilDragoo; potlatch; ntnychik; MeekOneGOP; dixiechick2000; Grampa Dave; Interesting Times

Chi-Com in America

Record kill

“An ‘isolated incident’ with no connection to terrorists.....”

— FBI’s next spin

“New ‘sensible’ gun control legistlation must be passed now.....”

— Carolyn McCarthy tomorrow

“We must begin the healing process.....”

— VT President - before 5pm ET today


3,646 posted on 04/16/2007 7:30:14 PM PDT by devolve ( ........upload images free & fast at tinypic.com or Photobucket or Imagecave)
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To: Jedidah

I can handle disagreements. Pompous assholes not so much. bu bye.


3,647 posted on 04/16/2007 7:30:29 PM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: AppyPappy

I’m so sorry to hear that. Prayers for Ryan, his family and friends, you and the Circle K club members.


3,648 posted on 04/16/2007 7:30:41 PM PDT by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org ? Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: Halls

It would seem like all the next of kin would have been notified. If your child was unaccounted for and you had gone to the police, wouldn’t the police have been able to ID the dead by now, especially if they knew who were missing?

It’s not like 9/11 where there were no bodies, they have bodies, they have families missing children...I feel for those who are waiting for news.


3,649 posted on 04/16/2007 7:30:46 PM PDT by dawn53
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To: dawn53
Not sure if you were seriously asking or if someone else gave it, but... http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1818131/posts?page=2257#2257 The name someone typed earlier from seeing the clip on CNN is awfully close. His accent sounded like he was Middle Eastern, and his name was <>Jamal Aberghouti (or something like that.)<>
3,650 posted on 04/16/2007 7:30:57 PM PDT by mfccinsd
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To: hyperconservative

Language, language, luv. Moderators must be overwhelmed tonight.

No one — adult or otherwise — has a right to carry where guns are prohibited, like in schools and churches.

What happened today is about evil, not about guns. If this guy didn’t have firearms, he could have used explosives or any number of other methods to kill.


3,651 posted on 04/16/2007 7:31:22 PM PDT by Jedidah
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To: Jedidah

You really should stfu. You don’t know what you are talking about.


3,652 posted on 04/16/2007 7:31:40 PM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: Porterville

I presume they have conscription in China. At 24 he could be ex-PRA, but all that means is he’s had Army training. You don’t really need that level of training for what he did.


3,653 posted on 04/16/2007 7:31:41 PM PDT by Windcatcher (Earth to libs: MARXISM DOESN'T SELL HERE. Try somewhere else.)
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To: armymarinemom

Thank you for raising such fine sons. I hope you realize how much we appreciate your sacrifice. Our prayers are with you and them.

Pray for W and Our Freedom Fighters


3,654 posted on 04/16/2007 7:31:52 PM PDT by bray (The Surge is Working against both enemies of America)
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To: AdrianR
I think they had some type of student visa. Tbey had expired student visas. Sadly, the state dept. says they have no way of tracking down those whose visas have expired and they don't even check with the schools to make sure the visa holders are still enrolled or attending classes.
3,655 posted on 04/16/2007 7:32:13 PM PDT by KentuckyWoman
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To: bnelson44
Aren’t weapons controlled on an army base?

Oh yeah, HIGHLY controlled, even in the field. Still, our guys and gals (teenage soldiers) are the best on the planet.

Having lived in college dorms and knowing what goes on there Thursday through Sunday nights, I wouldn’t really want any weapons around.

I understand your reluctance and accept and respect your feelings, but emotion aside, there are RAs, Grad students, non-traditional older students like me, etc, that are very responsible, law abiding citizens. If I saw you getting attacked or raped (yes, males get raped too), I would come to your defense if I were not legally disarmed.

You can seek training for self defense and hopefully become a true, dutiful citizen who carries a firearm for self defense of yourself and innocent others, or

you can spend the rest of your life wondering what you could have done to stop/mitigate a violent attack.

It is sad today that so many people are willing to just walk by and let evil exist.

I refuse to do so! Godspeed and keep the grades up!

3,656 posted on 04/16/2007 7:32:20 PM PDT by DCBryan1 (Arm Pilots&Teachers. Build the Wall. Export Illegals. Profile Muslims. Execute Scum & Pit Bulls.)
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To: ohioWfan
You can bet that Bush will get the blame for this as always everything is Bush’s faults no matter what happens he can never seem to get a break
3,657 posted on 04/16/2007 7:32:24 PM PDT by StoneWall Brigade (Charge'em Both Ways)
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To: mfccinsd

Thanks. It’s Al Barghouti on some sites, and Albarghouti on others. Probably a common name in Palestine, but since Blitzer identified him as being from a “well known” family, it just got me thinking.


3,658 posted on 04/16/2007 7:32:24 PM PDT by dawn53
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To: Halls
My friend knows at least 14 kids who were unnacounted for earlier this evening and their families hadn’t heard from them. She couldn’t talk to me because she was going to be with the families of those who are still waiting. Such a tragedy.

My God. How horrible not knowing at this late hour. May God Bless them all and provide some comfort.

3,659 posted on 04/16/2007 7:32:26 PM PDT by CedarDave
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To: All
"Well, I'm screwed. They found a receipt in the gunman's pocket indicating that he bought the gun from me in March. ATF is at my shop right now. See you later, I'm on my way to the shop right now."

"Call BS all you like, but I just spent the last several hours with 3 ATF agents. I saw the shooter's picture. I know his name and home address. I also know that he used a Glock 19 and a Walther P-22. The serial number was ground off the Glock. Why would he do that and still keep the receipt in his pocket from when he bought the gun? ATF told me that they are going to keep this low-key and not report this to the tv news. However, they cautioned that it will leak out eventually, and that I should be ready to deal with CNN, FOX, etc. My 32 camera surveillance system recorded the event 35 days ago. This is a digital system that only keeps the video for 35 days. We got lucky. By the way, the paperwork for Mr. Cho was perfect, thank God."

More at link

3,660 posted on 04/16/2007 7:32:36 PM PDT by Aikonaa
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