Posted on 04/13/2007 8:33:45 AM PDT by BradtotheBone
We have cats trespassing on our property. They kill our rabbits and our chipmunks.
It's my property, and I take the rabbits and chipmunks side on this.
I can actually see birds better through my cameras. The Leica lens I use goes to 432mm equivalent, about 12X, another, Canon lens, will hit almost as far. My binocs will give me the power, but not the resolution. Both main cameras have stabilized lenses, takes the senior shake factor out of things.
Are your photos posted anyplace, like a website?
I hadn’t directed my comments to you, but I guess that my reference to the small penis connected with you, huh?
They're all house cats. They might spend 25% of their time outdoors, and they always stay close to the house. So, yes, I'm confident that if they had killed a bird I would know about it.
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Tsiya is the name I use as signature. In Tsalagi [Cherokee], it means “Otter”.
Never had any complaints!
Thank you so much! I knew you probably had these out there someplace, I’ll look when I have more time. Fabulous!
The birds you are referring to aren’t kept by people. Birds are naturally flying around, domesticated cats are just that, domesticated and thus the OWNERS are SUPPOSED to be RESPONSIBLE for their actions/activities.
My issue is with the owners, if they can’t control their animals then I will.
BTW, I didn’t say I killed anything or was going to, my family would have a coniption. The animal will probably end up with Animal Control and since none of the damn cats roaming our neighborhood have collars, my suspicions are that they would either be adopted out or euthanized.
Not my problem, I wasn’t the one who disobeyed the laws and ordinances related to pets.
SZ
You’re missing the point many of us “badass guardians of the ecosystem sissies with small penises” are making.
The cats owned/kept by people are subject to the same rules as any other pet owner, yet cat owners somehow think they’re above the law in letting their cats roam.
I don’t give a good flying damn who you are. Cat owners are still subject to the same rules as any other pet owner and if I catch one in my yard without a tag or collar, it’s going to the pound and they can put a needle in its leg for all I care. Sorry cat, your OWNER let you down, not me.
SZ
Why are you punishing the pet when it’s the people’s fault? WHy don’t you have the stones and do what’s right and take the pet directly to the people who own and ask them to keep it off your property? Why hurt the pet? Have you know conscience? DO the right thing next time. Don’t punish the animals.....
Fawn,
I do have the stones, but if you don’t know who owns the cat what are you supposed to do with it? Besides, if my dog gets loose and then gets caught, even with her tags and collar I get the privilege of paying a hefty fine to get her back.
The people whom I “suspect” own one of the cats are well known in our neighborhood for not being very neighborly. They had previously accused their neighbors of killing the cat and went so far as to file a police report against them. Guess what? The cat was seen a couple of days later in their window and the Sheriffs Dept. basically just ignored the pleas of the neighbor who wanted to press charges of filing a false police report.
What is it with cat owners and their illogical thought processes that make them think they aren’t responsible for their pet(s) and the actions/activities of their pet(s)?
A friend of ours has a dog that will and has climbed over a six foot high wall. The dog got out one day and we were doing our damned best to get him back when a few folks came out yelling at us about the dog. The dog was just running around, not threatening anyone, although one lady with an immaculate lawn got really mad when he pee’d on her lawn. Yet cat owners are let off the hook?
The dog now spends his time (illegally btw) restrained in the back yard when he’s let out. Why is the dog being punished? The owner has taken extreme measures to control his animal to prevent him from creating a nuisance, that’s why. Why can’t a cat owner?
I didn’t say anything about hurting the “pet” and I do have a conscience, thank you. I said I would turn it over to Animal Control. Like I told Anton, “sorry cat, your OWNER let you down”, hence the “punishment” is essentially the owners fault not mine. Who’s punishing whom here and who is doing the right thing?
SZ
You paint an unfair broad brush. You are prejudiced against cat owners and have closed your mind to the natural status of cats....they stalk and wander. Cats are not licensed like dogs and cannot be tied up like dogs. It would be like tying up a squirrel. It's just the way it is.
IMO, this guy was doing the "right" thing.
Well..I will say it if no one else will.
I have a large organ for an orange....and I am oppressed and feel denigrated by your comment....
Fawn,
You didn’t answer the question(s) that I asked you back after answering your questions. Your posts appear to be strictly emotionally based. Look at this from a practical point of view.
I don’t paint with an unfair broad brush. I didn’t say I had anything against responsible cat owners, only irresponsible cat owners and their cats.
And yes, cats are too be licensed as well. They have vaccinations that are required as well. Don’t try to tell me that it is the “natural status” of cats to wander and then tell me that dogs, descendants of wild animals aren’t prone to wandering as well. Faulty logic.
And btw, dismissing the cats behavior as “...just the way it is.” is not an answer.
SZ
I answered it. You wanted to know why cat owners 'feel' that way. I told you. You are the one who is emotionally charged. You don't like a cat crossing your precious yard. But birds pooping, etc is ok. You have no right to capture someones cat and misplace it. Let it be....like I let my neighbors dog be when it feels like running behind my yard. Don't be so petty and cruel.
If they're overpopulated in your area, have at it. The government has hunts to control the wild horse population out West every year. Assateague Island has a wild pony colony, and controls its population with contraception via dart gun (on the Maryland side) and by rounding up ponies and auctioning them off(Virginia). That works as long as there are enough homes for the ponies, but capture and adoption has saturated the demand in the West.
We are all part of nature, aren’t we?
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