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Resistance is rising to RealID. The state legislators seem to be taking cues from one another now. It's hopeful to see so many states making moves on it. A large state like New Jersey really will help block this thing.
1 posted on 04/09/2007 5:30:31 PM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: George W. Bush
It'll feel good to be able to get on a plane and know that no one from New Jersey is on board.

That's the upside Fur Shur.

2 posted on 04/09/2007 5:36:47 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: George W. Bush

Yeah, and when we get hit with another 9-11, a lot of people will have egg on their face. This country isn’t serious about defending itself, and we will reap our reward sooner rather than later. It’s time to focus on things that really matter. And it’s depressing when even many conservative patriots won’t do that. We are asking for it.


3 posted on 04/09/2007 5:37:14 PM PDT by California Patriot ("That's not Charley the Tuna out there. It's Jaws." -- Richard Nixon)
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To: George W. Bush

My State Rep, Jim Guest (R-MO), has taken a leadership role in fighting this, too.


4 posted on 04/09/2007 5:39:03 PM PDT by kerryusama04 (John 19:31)
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To: George W. Bush
Three years ago, I was invited to speak with a group of state legislators from around the country, on the subject of drivers licenses. I told them then that the current situation could not last. The states have reciprocal rights, a license from any state can be turned into one from any other state. That's how half the terrorists on 9/11 began with NC licenses -- where the process was weakest.

I told the legislators that either they straightened out the situation by raising the minimum standards, or Congress would do it for them. The states continued to dither, and Congress acted.

As for this revolt, it will die in its cradle when Congress cuts all money for highways until the states fall in line. Remember how the Congress forced the issue of the 55 MPH speed limit? It threatened to cut off the money. The states blustered and complained. Then there was a loud sucking sound, and all fell in line.

History is such a good teacher, whenever we pay attention to it. And when we don't, it has ways of capturing our attention. Even the NJ legislature can learn, though there may be blood on the floor before it does. LOL.

Congressman Billybob

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5 posted on 04/09/2007 5:41:16 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob (Please get involved: www.ArmorforCongress.com)
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To: Calpernia

ping?


7 posted on 04/09/2007 6:31:40 PM PDT by Esther Ruth
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To: George W. Bush; California Patriot
New Jersey actually started this around 1998. They instituted driver's license and identification card requirements specifying several different forms of identification. More than one form of identification was required, such as a birth certificate and an out of state license, and possibly other forms of id. The documents were added based on a point scale. My firearms purchaser identification card counted as one point, even though I went through an FBI fingerprint search to get it. My old New Jersey photo license did not count for any points. I think we had to produce six points. We also had to provide proof of address, such as a lease.

Well, sig 226, isn't it a good thing that New Jersey took the lead in implementing measures to secure the state identification card system to preserve national security?

They did it because too many illegal aliens and suspended drivers had New Jersey driver's licenses. The employees at the state motor vehicle agencies in Prospect Park and Wayne were selling them out the back door.

So basically a bunch of state employees were selling fake ids and the state stuck it to all the honest citizens because they couldn't be bothered to operate an honest government. What the hell, it was New Jersey. ,p> California Patriot, do you really think that people who can get hold of RPGs, who are willing to fly airplanes into buildings, and who found ways to make bombs out of cleanser and nail polish remover will be deterred by this? I don't.

10 posted on 04/09/2007 7:10:48 PM PDT by sig226 (Where did my tag line go?)
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To: George W. Bush; Abram; akatel; albertp; AlexandriaDuke; Alexander Rubin; Allosaurs_r_us; amchugh; ..
Libertarian ping! To be added or removed from my ping list freepmail me or post a message here.
14 posted on 04/09/2007 7:37:58 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: George W. Bush; traviskicks; All
Real ID Act - A glimpse into the future of America (YouTube)

Real ID Act Passed - The End Of America

Well, at least the ACLU is getting this one right:
A Real Nightmare - http://www.realnightmare.org/

National ID Party - Republicans betray their federalist principles again(OpinionJournal)

Reason - The Beast is Back - "Real I.D." for an all too real world Maine Joint Resolution refusing to implement Real ID Act

Idaho Second State To Reject Real ID Act

Montana moves to reject Real ID Act
17 posted on 04/09/2007 8:11:58 PM PDT by bamahead (“Diplomacy is the art of saying "Nice doggie" until you can find a rock.” -Will Rogers)
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To: George W. Bush

I think this is good in more ways than one. It gets the States to thinking they CAN successfully defy the Leviathan.


32 posted on 04/10/2007 12:04:29 PM PDT by jammer
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To: George W. Bush

So long as the Feds won’t close down the border, they need to shut the hell up about any kind of ID. It ain’t their business.

Hope more of these come out of state houses around the country.


33 posted on 04/10/2007 12:07:40 PM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (Won't vote for a liberal in the democrat party, won't vote for one in the Republican party. Ever)
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To: George W. Bush
Good. Last estimate I heard for one of these RealiID DL licenses here in Texas was going to run $120.

Screw that...

38 posted on 04/10/2007 1:45:53 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: George W. Bush

Were did all the fiscal conservatives go?


46 posted on 04/10/2007 11:20:58 PM PDT by Ayal Rosenthal
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To: George W. Bush

I think the smart way to go would be for government to implant a permanent chip containing all personal information in everybody’s cheekbone. This chip could be read like a car going through an automated turnpike tollbooth. This way you could do all your shopping, for example, and payment would be automatically deducted from your government credit account as you walk out of the store!

All income would be automatically added to your government credit account and we could live in a cashless society! Taxes would also be automatically deducted and you would never have to write a check.

Likewise, you could board a plane without breaking stride (provided you are not on some kind of watch list or otherwise wanted for questioning by the authorities) and even such things as season tickets to the Phillies could be paperless.

Additionally, the government could track where everybody is at any given moment so you could never get lost!


49 posted on 04/10/2007 11:41:26 PM PDT by Lancey Howard (/sarc)
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To: George W. Bush
Montana's Governor just signed a bill defying Real ID:

Gov. Brian Schweitzer said "no, nope, no way, hell no" Tuesday to national driver's licenses, signing into law a bill supporters say is one of the strongest rejections to the federal plan.

The move means the state won't comply with the Real ID Act, a federal law that sets a national standard for driver's licenses and requires states to link their record-keeping systems to national databases...

"We also don't think that bureaucrats in Washington, D.C., ought to tell us that if we're going to get on a plane we have to carry their card, so when it's scanned through they know where you went, when you got there and when you came home," said Schweitzer, a Democrat.

"This is still a free country and there are no freer people than the people that we have in Montana." The federal government has never been popular with Montanans. The federal Patriot Act was a common whipping boy on the campaign trail last year, and lawmakers from both sides of the aisle lined up this year against the Real ID Act.


Maybe a Democrat Governor, but he sounds fairly Conservative.
60 posted on 04/18/2007 5:13:23 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: George W. Bush

And, soon the KGB of Amerika will be knocking on your doors when you post something bad about Hillary or Nancy.


61 posted on 04/18/2007 5:14:38 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (America has lost its mind and is on its last days as a free country & Republic.)
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To: George W. Bush
Would someone please tell me how your going to remove illegal aliens from this country when there is no way to positively identify who is legal and who is not?
62 posted on 04/18/2007 6:09:05 PM PDT by kempo (blA)
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