Posted on 04/08/2007 8:08:20 AM PDT by johnjohnmollina
I lament the hhttp://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/07/AR2007040701398.html?hpid=topnews against mayor Giuliani regarding Bernard Kerik's accusations of mafia ties, lack of ethics, etc.
They are simple allegations. Nothing else. Take a look at the weak accusations made on Kerik, only because he was Giuliani's friend:
1-questionable financial deals, 2-ethics violation 3-allegations of mismanagement 4-a top deputy prosecuted for corruption. 5-friendship with a businessman who was linked to organized crime.
Let's tackle each of these accusations: 1) questionable by who? questionable does not mean illegal. 2)ethics violation: So what? Many politicians have had ethic violations. 3)"allegations" of mismanagement: Allegations are just that: accusations without evidence. Prove it and i'll believe you. 4)Kerik's top deputy was an adult who knew what he was doing. Kerik was not his dad, and did not have to necessarily be aware of his top deputy's dealings. 5) How many of us haven't been friends with a person who later turns out to commit a crime? This guilt buy association claim is irrelevant and weak.
Get off Bernard Kerik's and Giuliani's back.
Welcome to Free Republic, Bernie.
Welcome aboard! I am guessing you are leaning towards Rudy for President?
Which means he isn’t a conservative; so why bother with this forum...
Lots of people enthusiatically eat up unfounded accusations. On the FR too. It just depends on who is being accused.
For example . . . Kerik has already pleaded guilty to two corruption charges, so your "alleged" comment is patently false.
“so why bother with this forum?”
There are a great deal of conservatives who have been on this forum for many years, asking the same question.
The nasty and uncivil tone here lately has driven large numbers of us away.
Ummm. Me.
Wasn’t Bernie found to have used city funds to pay for his mistresses apartments?
There, I fixed that for you.
Signed up today to post this credo. Who is paying your way? Get back in your sandbox and get real. Bye, bye.
The list of strong Conservative Freepers who have left for this reason is mind boggling.
FR has demised?
Am I logged on?
Go away, practice being a bit more subtle than come back and try again.
btw...regarding this - "5) How many of us haven't been friends with a person who later turns out to commit a crime? This guilt buy association claim is irrelevant and weak." - I haven't and this criminal wasn't a friend of your daddy's, but a trusted associate.
Yes. Most of them have gotten Jim Robinson's message (some haven't):
“How many times must I say FR is a conservative site? We do not support abortionism, homosexualism, feminisim, environmentalism, gun control, liberalism, socialism, etc, etc, etc. When I say I suspect we will become even more conservative than we already are, possibly via attrition if nothing else, what do you think I’m referring to? When FR starts pushing hard and I mean hard against abortion, gay marriage, homosexual education forced on our school children, pandering to illegal aliens, gun control, McCaine-Feingold type usurpation, global warming, etc, etc, even if supported or advanced by the GOP, then I fully suspect certain types of moderate/liberal Republican supporters are probably going to be a little uncomfortable here. We will be fighting for traditional American conservatism no matter who we have to fight against and I’m afraid that’s going to piss off some folks.”
Jim Robinson, 3/2/07
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1794037/replies?c=1072
As I long-time FReeper, I must admit that nothing in bluecollarman's post was 'crammed' down my throat.
"...who has witnessed the demise of this formerly great forum."
I'll admit that the Guiliani-bots are hard to take with a straight face, but demise???
"The list of strong Conservative Freepers who have left for this reason is mind boggling."
Please enlighten us by sharing the list.
One is tempted to think that you took a few too many to the head.
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