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Democrat met opposition leader in Egypt (Steny Hoyer met Muslim Brotherhood's parliament leader)
AP on Yahoo ^ | 4/7/07 | Nadia Abou El-Magd - ap

Posted on 04/07/2007 3:53:36 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

CAIRO, Egypt - A top U.S. Democratic congressman met a leading member of Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood, an outlawed opposition group, during a recent visit to the country, the Islamic fundamentalist group and U.S. officials said Saturday.

House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (news, bio, voting record) met with the Muslim Brotherhood's parliament leader, Mohammed Saad el-Katatni, twice on Thursday — once at the parliament building and then at the home of the U.S. ambassador to Egypt, said Brotherhood spokesman Hamdi Hassan.

U.S. Embassy spokesman John Berry would only confirm that Hoyer, who represents Maryland, met with el-Katatni at U.S. Ambassador Francis Ricciardone's home at a reception with other politicians and parliament members.

Though officially banned since 1954, the Brotherhood is tolerated by the government and has become Egypt's largest opposition group and President Hosni Mubarak's most powerful rival.

Its members, who run as independents, make up the largest opposition bloc in parliament, holding about one-fifth of its 454 seats.

Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice has refused in the past to meet with the Muslim Brotherhood.

But Berry said U.S. government policy does not bar meetings with Brotherhood members of parliament and Hoyer's talks with el-Katatni were not a change in U.S. policy toward the group.

"It's our diplomatic practice around the world to meet with parliamentarians, be they members of political parties or independents," Berry said. "We haven't changed our policy with regard to the Muslim Brotherhood as an organization."

The State Department had no comment Saturday on Hoyer's meetings with the group.

Berry stressed that Hoyer met with el-Katatni in his capacity as an independent member of Egyptian parliament. He would not say what the two discussed.

Hassan said the two lawmakers discussed developments in the Middle East, the "Brotherhood's vision" and opposition movements in Egypt. He said the two met privately at the ambassador's home and with other members of Hoyer's bipartisan delegation and Egyptian lawmakers at the parliament building.

Hoyer's meeting came just a day after Democratic Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi (news, bio, voting record) drew sharp criticism from the Bush administration for meeting with Syrian President Bashar Assad in Damascus.

Pelosi and other Democrats argue the administration needs to engage Syria to resolve some of the most intractable problems in the Middle East, such as Iraq and the Israeli-Arab conflict. But the Bush administration rejects that approach, accusing Syria of exacerbating the troubles in neighboring Iraq and Lebanon.

Jon Alterman, a Mideast specialist at the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington, said Bush administration officials may have avoided meeting Muslim Brotherhood members because that could strain relations with the secular Egyptian government, one of the closest U.S. allies in the Middle East.

"The difficulty when it gets to Egypt is that the Brotherhood is not a legal group within Egypt and the U.S. government is wary of violating laws in countries in which it operates," he told The Associated Press on Saturday.

"The larger constraint on our willingness to meet the Brotherhood is the Egyptian government's unease with our government's meeting with the Brotherhood."

Hoyer, who also met with Mubarak during his visit, left Egypt on Friday. A telephone message left with his spokeswoman Saturday was not immediately returned. Calls to el-Katatni also went unanswered Saturday.

The Muslim Brotherhood's parliament bloc Web site said the meetings were not part of an effort to engage the United States.

"The Brotherhood not only has reservations on dialogue with the Americans but rejects the unfair American policy in the region," the Web site said.

Washington has been pressing Mubarak for years to enact reforms as part of a Bush administration campaign to spread democracy in the Mideast. And Rice expressed concern in March that "all voices" were not being heard in deliberations over amending the constitution as part of those reforms.

"There's been a growing sense in Washington over 20 years that Islamic politics are here to stay, and the U.S. interest in promoting democracy around the world means we should be engaging with a growing number of actors," Alterman said.

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Associated Press writers Anna Johnson in Cairo and John Heilprin in Washington contributed to this report.


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To: KevinDavis

[Is Steny a Blue Dog rat??????]

No- he’s your basic scummy sewer rat


181 posted on 04/08/2007 11:51:34 AM PDT by CottShop
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To: NormsRevenge

They should be in jail.


182 posted on 04/08/2007 12:02:37 PM PDT by AliVeritas (Pray for Tony Snow, Liz Edwards, cancer patients, their families and support.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Muslim Brotherhood is the father off all terror groups, including Al Queda.


183 posted on 04/08/2007 12:26:11 PM PDT by NeoCaveman (Giuliani: A strict constructionist judge can come to either conclusion about Roe against Wade.)
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To: Mo1
Ummmmm .. Are the Democrats trying to kick Mubarak out of office?

And replace him with Ayman al Zawahiri (Bin Laden's #2)

184 posted on 04/08/2007 12:47:44 PM PDT by NeoCaveman (Giuliani: A strict constructionist judge can come to either conclusion about Roe against Wade.)
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To: Txsleuth

What they are doing is trying as hard as they can to sell you & me out to the Islamic fascist while doing what they can to retain position title & prestige. Next question please.


185 posted on 04/08/2007 5:06:19 PM PDT by Nebr FAL owner (.308 reach out & thump someone .50 cal.Browning Machine gun reach out & crush someone)
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To: NormsRevenge

I have mentioned here before that I do not think Ms. Pelosi acted without the consent of Democrat leaders and that her action is part of a bigger Democrat plan, now I think we can see the pieces falling into place.

Also, need to give credit to the Democrats in Congress for their funding vote, just recently Al-Sadr ordered to step up attacks on US troops in Iraq. He knows that the Democrats do not have the stomach for war and wants to kill as many of our troops as he can to get them to pull out.

So the Democrats in Congress should get a “We helped kill our own troops in Iraq” award.

And why not, they also support killing the unborn.


186 posted on 04/08/2007 5:16:14 PM PDT by stockpirate (A nation that does not honor it warriors will be defeated by a nation that does.)
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To: Txsleuth; NormsRevenge

You are very welcome.

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187 posted on 04/08/2007 6:23:59 PM PDT by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: CutePuppy

Wonderful...I am going to bookmark it all.

Thank you very much.


188 posted on 04/08/2007 6:27:48 PM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: CutePuppy; NormsRevenge

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1173879273592&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

Check this out...we are getting denials of a sort by Hoyer!


189 posted on 04/08/2007 6:37:15 PM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: Txsleuth
Berry stressed that Hoyer met with el-Katatni in his capacity as an independent member of Egyptian parliament. He would not say what the two discussed.

Hassan said the two lawmakers discussed developments in the Middle East, the "Brotherhood's vision" and opposition movements in Egypt. He said the two met privately at the ambassador's home and with other members of Hoyer's bipartisan delegation and Egyptian lawmakers at the parliament building.

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A top US Democratic congressman said he did not have "personal meetings" with a member of Egypt's largest opposition group, the banned Muslim Brotherhood, during a recent official trip, a spokeswoman for the American lawmaker said Sunday.

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Well, he's "sort of" correct. From the articles it's obvious that the meeting was only "private", it wasn't "personal" because there were other members of delegation present... /s

190 posted on 04/08/2007 7:09:36 PM PDT by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: CutePuppy

Yeah...I guess it is one of those Dem “semantic” things.

Like it depends on what the meaning of the word “personal” is...LOL


191 posted on 04/08/2007 7:11:15 PM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: Txsleuth

Thanks, I guess it depends on what the definition of “personal” is as in personal meetings..

They were only with members of his group now?

Who to believe?


192 posted on 04/08/2007 8:52:47 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... BumP'n'Run 'Right-Wing Extremist' since 2001 ... My profile is on FiRe!)
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To: NormsRevenge

You got me...I know I wouldn’t trust Steny at all.

Whenever Nancy’s big adventure was brought up on any of the news shows..and the host would have a Dem operative on ...that person would SWEAR that he/she knew what Pelosi said and heard in Syria...and SWORE that Pelosi didn’t do what Olmert said she did...and that she wasn’t putting forth her own foreign policy agenda.

BUT, we have her/their words for it...and then Lantos comes out and says they told Assad of the “Democratic foreign policy.

There is no way that anyone that wasn’t in the room with Assad and Pelosi would know what was said by anyone.

But, I know they lie, cheat and steal...and so do the Syrians...so, I am betting on the worst.

Bush needs to call for a Justice Department investigation into what Pelosi did..and Steny Hoyer did...on the basis of we are at war..and the were consorting with the enemy.


193 posted on 04/08/2007 8:57:43 PM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: NormsRevenge; potlatch; ntnychik; devolve; Grampa Dave; gonzo
Were our government (yoohoo, Alberto) weren't so preoccupied with persecuting Border Patrol agents Ramos and Compean (to please Mexicans), and court-martialing our Marines (to please al-Qaeda et al), it (hola, Alberto) would put Pelosi and Hoyer in detention for the duration.

The fall of Bush's popularity and the Republican majority is directly attributable to this unforgiveable lack of will.


194 posted on 04/08/2007 9:10:05 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

Which is the fundamental problem with Islam. Anyone going back to the roots of Islam, to really follow the way of the prophet Mohammed, will become a murderous intolerant religious zealot thug.

As demonstrated by the history in your post.


195 posted on 04/08/2007 9:18:18 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: Dog
* Egyptian Islamic Group aka Jehad al Islamy : Al-Zawahiri was one of the leaders of Jehad al-Islamy, which is also known as the Egyptian Islamic Group, and participated in the assassination of Sadat, Tefft said. "Iraq's contact with the Egyptian Islamic Group is another operational contact between Iraq and al Qaeda," he [ Bruce Tefft, a retired CIA official ] added. ------- "Exclusive: Saddam Possessed WMD, Had Extensive Terror Ties," by Scott Wheeler, CNSNews, October 4, 2004
196 posted on 04/08/2007 11:07:46 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: Dog

If I remember right, he’s also associated with the “Vanguards of Conquest.”

Wasn’t his brother involved with the KLA leadership in the Balkans?


197 posted on 04/08/2007 11:14:42 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: NormsRevenge

So he didn’t meet with a pro-Democracy opposition member, he met with a pro-Islamofascist opposition member.

Recall that Ayman Al Zawahiri (Al Qaeda #2) is a direct offshoot of the Muslim Brotherhood.

So the Dems are meeting with AQ’s close associates.

Birds of a feather.


198 posted on 04/09/2007 6:53:50 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (McCain / Feingold - 2008 ... "Shut Up or Go To Prison")
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To: NormsRevenge
A top U.S. Democratic congressman met a leading member of Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood

The Muslim brotherhood was part of Hitlers army. Their job was to hunt down the Jews for the Nazis.
Can the democrats get any lower? I'll bet they've all got posters of Adolf hanging in their offices.

199 posted on 04/09/2007 7:19:57 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: NormsRevenge
The Muslim Brotherhood's parliament bloc Web site said the meetings were not part of an effort to engage the United States.

The democrats were there asking for DNC donations. Any enemy of America is a friend of theirs.

200 posted on 04/09/2007 7:22:28 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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