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Cheney asserts Iraq-al Qaeda link ~ on radio show: "They were present before we invaded Iraq."
BBC ^ | Friday, 6 April 2007, 16:11 GMT 17:11 UK | BBC Staff

Posted on 04/06/2007 10:54:47 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

Cheney asserts Iraq-al Qaeda link

Vice-President Dick Cheney

Dick Cheney said al-Qaeda was working in Iraq before the 2003 war

US Vice-President Dick Cheney has repeated his assertion that the al-Qaeda network had links with Iraq before the US-led invasion of 2003.

Mr Cheney told a US radio show: "They were present before we invaded Iraq."

Hours earlier, a declassified Pentagon report said information obtained from Iraq's former leader Saddam Hussein had confirmed they had no strong ties.

Its publication followed pressure from Democrats who suggest intelligence was twisted in the run-up to the war.

The belief that Saddam Hussein's regime and al-Qaeda were working together was an important element in the Bush administration's case for invading Iraq.

Critics have since suggested the administration "cherry-picked" from available intelligence to bolster that case.

'Inappropriate' intelligence

Mr Cheney, in an interview with conservative talk-show host Rush Limbaugh, insisted there had been a link between Saddam Hussein's regime and the al-Qaeda terror group.

He said former al-Qaeda in Iraq leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi had been leading the network's operations in the country before the 2003 US-led invasion.

Osama bin Laden with followers
The US still does not know where al-Qaeda head Osama bin Laden is

"He took up residence there before we ever launched into Iraq, organised the al-Qaeda operations inside Iraq before we even arrived on the scene and then, of course, led the charge for Iraq until we killed him last June," he told the show.

The newly declassified Pentagon report was based on interrogations of Saddam Hussein and two of his aides, as well as documents seized in Iraq.

The Democratic chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee, Carl Levin, had pushed for its full release after it was released in summary form in February.

In a statement on Thursday, he said the document showed why a defence department investigation had concluded that some Pentagon pre-war intelligence work had been "inappropriate".

The report into former Pentagon policy chief Douglas Feith's handling of intelligence on Iraq was prepared by the defence department's top watchdog, Inspector General Thomas Gimble.

Under repeated questioning by Mr Levin in February, Mr Gimble said the conclusions reached in reports by Mr Feith were not fully supported by the available intelligence.

In particular, his conclusion there was a "mature and symbiotic relationship" between Iraq and al-Qaeda could not be justified on the basis of the available intelligence.

In addition, an alleged meeting between an Iraqi intelligence officer and a leader of the 9/11 attacks, Mohamed Atta, never took place.

Mr Feith's supporters stress that the inspector general found no evidence of illegal or unauthorised activity.




TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqueda; cheney; iraq; zarqawi
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To: The Pack Knight
An even better example is Abdul Rahman Yasin...from my files:

Ramzi Yousef (1993 WTC) and Terry Nichols crossed paths (OKC) in the Phillipines. Khalid Sheikh Mohammed (9/11) was Yousef's uncle. It is interesting to note that Yousef entered the United States on an Iraqi passport and had been known among the New York fundamentalists as "Rashid, the Iraqi". Another name that could be thrown into the mix is Abdul Rahman Yasin, a U.S. citizen who moved to Iraq in the 1960's and returned to the U.S. in 1992. After the 1993 WTC bombing, Yasin fled to Iraq and was given monthly salary and housing by Saddam Hussein's regime.

Other links

21 posted on 04/06/2007 11:34:22 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: jveritas

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2004/6/13/224948.shtml

Sunday, June 13, 2004 10:47 p.m. EDT

Clinton Indictment Cited Iraq-bin Laden Link

Though Democrats and most reporters insist there’s no operational link between al-Qaida and Iraq, the Clinton Justice Department specifically cited such an alliance when it indicted the 9/11 mastermind six years ago, Weekly Standard reporter Stephen Hayes said Sunday.

“The Clinton administration, in a sealed indictment of Osama bin Laden in the spring of 1998, included very prominently, in the fourth paragraph, a discussion of this agreement,” Hayes told WABC Radio’s Monica Crowley.

“They called it an understanding between Iraq and al-Qaida, whereby al-Qaida agreed not to agitate against the Iraqi regime,” Hayes said. “In exchange the Iraqi regime agreed to supply assistance on weapons development.”

Since the outbreak of the Iraq war, numerous Clinton administration officials have argued there was no link between Iraq and al-Qaida.

But in his book “The Connection,” Hayes details the portion of the Clinton administration’s bin Laden indictment that contradicts those claims, then notes:

“The fact remains that six senior Clinton administration national security officials are on the record defending [the Aug. 20, 1998 strike against Sudan], citing an Iraqi connection.”


22 posted on 04/06/2007 11:34:40 AM PDT by RaceBannon (Innocent until proven guilty: The Pendleton 8...down to 3..GWB, we hardly knew ye...)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

He said this in his interview with Rush on his show this week. Rush then said that the transcript would be shortly posted on his web site for all the Drive By Media to cut and paste their slant of the interview with.


23 posted on 04/06/2007 11:35:51 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (Just at what point did you think I actually gave care about your opinion?)
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To: Dr. Frank fan
We're only allowed to care about people who are officially "in Al Qaeda" for some reason.

Not only that, but they ignore the fact that few terrorists are really "in al-Quaeda". Al-Quaeda is not an organized militia or terrorist group like Hezbollah or Hamas. It's a terrorist network that primarily provides support and inspiration to autonomous cells who may or may not identify themselves as being affiliated with al-Quaeda.

What research I've done on the subject leads me to believe that al-Quaeda is more like the terrorist version of venture capitalists. You come to them with a "business plan", so to speak, and, if they like it, they give you money, personnel, and ideological support. What we know of the early stages of Khaled Sheikh Mohammed and Mohammed Atef's early planning of 9-11, and their obtainment of bin Laden's approval, fits this model.

The membership of such a network-oriented organization is difficult to define. It is also just the sort of organization that would be very useful for a state to use as a middle man to plot covert attacks with plausible deniability.
24 posted on 04/06/2007 11:35:53 AM PDT by The Pack Knight (Democracy is the tyranny of all over all. Gingrich/Bolton '08)
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To: RaceBannon
Here's my list:

In in 1998, an Arab intelligence officer, who knows Saddam personally, predicted in Newsweek: "Very soon you will be witnessing large-scale terrorist activity run by the Iraqis." The Arab official said these terror operations would be run under "false flags" --spook-speak for front groups--including bin Laden's organization.

Then there were the predictions by an Iraqi with ties to Iraqi intelligence, Naeem Abd Mulhalhal, in Qusay's own newspaper several weeks before the attacks that stated bin Laden would “demolish the Pentagon after he destroys the White House and ”bin Laden would strike America “on the arm that is already hurting.” (referencing a second IRAQI sponsored attack on the World Trade Center). Another reference to New York was “[bin Laden] will curse the memory of Frank Sinatra everytime he hears his songs.” (e.g., “New York, New York”) which identified New York, New York as a target. Mulhalhal also stated, “The wings of a dove and the bullet are all but one and the same in the heart of a believer." which references an airplane attack.

The Arabic language daily newspaper Al-Quds Al-Arabic also cited the cooperation between Iraq, bin Laden and Al December 1998 editorial, which predicted that “President Saddam Hussein, whose country was subjected to a four day air strike, will look for support in taking revenge on the United States and Britain by cooperating with Saudi oppositionist Osama Bin-Laden, whom the United States considers to be the most wanted person in the world.” This info is in the link provided below. How could these people have had foreknowledge without Iraq being involved?

Source for this info

Warning...slow loading .pdf file. This was from a lawsuit filed against Iraq after 9/11...the court ruled against Iraq.

There was also another lawsuit filed by the family of John O’Neill (a former FBI agent who captured Ramzi Yousef after the 1993 WTC bombings) after he died in the WTC on 9/11. His personal files from his years of traveling around the world investigating al-Qaeda are were used as evidence in the lawsuit. The evidence includes documents unearthed in the headquarters of the Mukhabarat (Iraq's intelligence service) and information gleaned from the interrogation of both al-Qaeda and Iraqi prisoners. (Link below). It also quotes Vincent Cannistraro, the former CIA counter-terrorism chief, who stated in October 2000 that Iraq had been wanting to carry out terrorist attacks, and that the Iraqi military had been in contact with Osama bin Laden.

Click Here

We know from these IIS documents that beginning in 1992 the former Iraqi regime regarded bin Laden as an Iraqi Intelligence asset. We know from IIS documents that the former Iraqi regime provided safe haven and financial support to an Iraqi who has admitted to mixing the chemicals for the 1993 attack on the World Trade Center. We know from IIS documents that Saddam Hussein agreed to Osama bin Laden's request to broadcast anti-Saudi propaganda on Iraqi state-run television. We know from IIS documents that a "trusted confidante" of bin Laden stayed for more than two weeks at a posh Baghdad hotel as the guest of the Iraqi Intelligence Service.

Abu Nidal, September 11 and Saddam The terrorist network may be closer knit than we think.

Weekly Standard: The Mother of All Connections

List of newspaper article in the 90's which mention the world's concern regarding the growing relationship between OBL and Saddam:

Click here

Son of Saddam coordinates OBL activities:

Click here

The AQ connection (excellent):

Click here

Western Nightmare:

Click here

Saddam's link to OBL:

Click here

NYT: Iraq and AQ agree to cooperate:

Click here

Document linking them:

Click here

Iraq and terrorism - no doubt about it:

Click here

A federal judge rules there are links:

Click here

Wall Street Journal on Iraq and AQ:

Click here

Iraq and Iran contact OBL:

Click here

More evidence:

Click here

Saddam's AQ connection:

Click here

Further connections:

Click here

What a court of law said about the connections:

Click here

Some miscellaneous stuff on connections:

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Saddam's Ambassador to Al Qaeda: (February 2004, Weekly Standard)

Click here

Yes - it's NewsMax but loaded with interesting bullet points.

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Saddam's Fingerprints on NY Bombing (Wall Street Journal, June 1993)

Click here

Colin Powell: Iraq and AQ Partners for Years (CNN, February 2003)

Click here

The Iraq-Al Qaeda Connections (September 2003, Richard Miniter)

Click here

Oil for Food Scandal Ties Iraq and Al Qaeda (June 2003)

Click here

Saddam and OBL Make a Pact (The New Yorker, February 2003):

Click here

Al Qaeda's Poison Gas (Wall Street Journal, April 2004):

Click here

Wolfowitz Says Saddam behind 9/11 Attacks:

Click here

Saddam behind first WTC attack - PBS, Laurie Mylroie:

Click here

Growing Evidence of Saddam and Al Qaeda Link, The Weekly Standard, July 2003:

Click here

Qusay Hussein Coordinated Iraq special operations with Bin Laden Terrorist Activities, Yossef Bodansky, National Press Club

Click here

The Western Nightmare: Saddam and Bin Laden vs. the Rest of the World, The Guardian Unlimited:

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Saddam Link to Bin Laden, Julian Borger, The Guardian, February 1999

Click here

The Al Qaeda Connection, The Weekly Standard, July 2003

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Cheney lectures Russert on Iraq/911 Link, September 2003:

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No Question About It, National Review, September 2003

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Iraq: A Federal Judges Point of View

Click here

Mohammed's Account links Iraq to 9/11 and OKC:

Click here

Free Republic Thread that mentions some books Freepers might be interested in on this topic:

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The Proof that Saddam Worked with AQ, The Telegraph, April 2003:

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Saddam's AQ Connection, The Weekly Standard, September 2003

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September 11 Victims Sue Iraq:

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Osama's Best Friend: The Further Connections Between Al Qaeda and Saddam, The Weekly Standard, November 2003

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Terrorist Behind 9/11 Attacks Trained by Saddam, The Telegraph, December 2003

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James Woolsey Links Iraq and AQ, CNN Interview, March 2004, Also see Posts #34 and #35

Click here

A Geocities Interesting Web Site with maps and connections:

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Bin Laden indicted in federal court, read down to find information that Bin Laden agreed to not attack Iraq and to work cooperatively with Iraq:

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Case Closed, The Weekly Standard, November 03

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CBS - Lawsuit: Iraq involved in 9/11:

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Exploring Iraq's Involvement in pre-9/11 Acts, The Indianapolis Star:

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The Iraq/AQ Connection: Richard Minister again

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Militia Defector says Baghdad trained Al Qaeda fighters in chemical weapons, July 2002

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The Clinton View of Iraq/AQ Ties, The Weekly Standard, December 2003

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Saddam Controlled the Camps (Iraq/AQ Ties): The London Observer, November 01

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Saddam's Terror Ties that Critics Ignore, National Review, October 2003:

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Tape Shows General Wesley Clark linking Iraq and AQ:

Click here

The Missing Link (What the Senate Ingelligence Report Said about Iraq/AQ Connections)

Click Here

Credit to Peach for the above info.

Credit to joesbucks for the following links:

Dozens of links here:

Click here

Just a few of those links include:

The Clinton Justice Department's indictment against OBL in federal court which mentions the terrorist's connections to Iraq. November 4, 1998. The federal indictment:

Click here

Iraq and AQ agree to cooperate. The federal indictment against OBL working in concert with Iraq and Iran is mentioned. November 1998. The New York Times

Click here

Saddam reaching out to OBL January 1, 1999. Newsweek

Click here

ABC news reports on the Osama/Saddam connections January 14, 1999. ABC News

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Western Nightmare: Saddam and OBL versus the World. Iraq recruited OBL. February 6, 1999. The Guardian

Click here

Saddam's Link to OBL February 6, 1999. The Guardian

Click here

Saddam offered asylum to bin Laden February 13, 1999. AP

Click here

And kabar submitted these two little gems showing Bin Laden supported Iraq and its struggle against the US and the West.

1996 Fatwa: "Declaration of War against the Americans Occupying the Land of the Two Holy Places."

1998 Text of Fatwah Urging Jihad Against Americans

25 posted on 04/06/2007 11:36:20 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: The Pack Knight

Yes, I realize I misspelled al-Qaeda every single time.


26 posted on 04/06/2007 11:36:55 AM PDT by The Pack Knight (Democracy is the tyranny of all over all. Gingrich/Bolton '08)
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To: The Pack Knight
The problem is that people don't appreciate terrorist outfits are loosely knit organizations that operate in the shadows and Saddam's enterprise was at the forefront in assisting with logistics and planning with worldwide terrorist operations What is Salman Pak?
27 posted on 04/06/2007 11:40:01 AM PDT by Steven W.
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To: SolidWood; rhombus; SierraWasp; what's up; pieceofthepuzzle; johnny7; massgopguy; jveritas; ...
Just looking around here on Free Republic....found this:

ABC NEWS: DOCS SEIZED IN IRAQ REVEAL INSURGENT PLAN FOR ATTACK IN U.S.(Update with story)
www.drudgereport.com

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ABC NEWS: DOCS SEIZED IN IRAQ REVEAL INSURGENT PLAN FOR ATTACK IN U.S.


Details Emerge About Possible Terror Threat

Suspects, Reportedly Tied to Al Qaeda in Iraq, Sought Student Visas

WASHINGTON, Jan. 22, 2007 — Mimicking the hijackers who executed the Sept. 11 attacks, insurgents reportedly tied to al Qaeda in Iraq considered using student visas to slip terrorists into the United States to orchestrate a new attack on American soil.

Lt. Gen. Michael D. Maples, head of the Defense Intelligence Agency, recently testified that documents captured by coalition forces during a raid of a safe house believed to house Iraqi members of al Qaeda six months ago "revealed [AQI] was planning terrorist operations in the U.S."

At the time, Maples offered little additional insight into the possible terror plot. ABC News, however, has learned new details of what remains a classified incident that has been dealt with at the highest levels of government.

Watch the full report tonight on "World News with Charles Gibson."

Sources tell ABC News that the plot may have involved moving between 10 and 20 suspects believed to be affiliated with al Qaeda in Iraq into the United States with student visas — the same method used by the 19 al Qaeda terrorists who struck American targets on Sept. 11.

28 posted on 04/06/2007 11:42:09 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The DemonicRATS believe ....that the best decisions are always made after the fact.)
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To: marron
Its the old bogus sophomore philosophy conundrum, if the tree falls in the forest, with only the loggers there to see it, CIA can't confirm it, so the tree is still standing, as far as we can tell.

Bingo. And the Plame/Wilson/Niger thing involves similar "logic". I wish I understood what their freakin problem is. There is a real untold story in all this which presumably involves ass-covering and turf-protecting on a grand scale at CIA.

29 posted on 04/06/2007 11:45:20 AM PDT by Dr. Frank fan
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To: ravingnutter; Peach

Good stuff....thanks...


30 posted on 04/06/2007 11:45:23 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The DemonicRATS believe ....that the best decisions are always made after the fact.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"confirmed they had no strong ties"

The 'report' didn't say they didn't have 'any' ties which is what the LIBERALS & OLD MEDIA want us to think.

31 posted on 04/06/2007 11:46:26 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: The Pack Knight
It is also just the sort of organization that would be very useful for a state to use as a middle man to plot covert attacks with plausible deniability.

Right. And now, its deniable nature makes it only too useful to the left whose primary aim in all things is to prevent the U.S. from fighting back against anyone for some reason, thus who are only too happy to play wink-wink games and go along with all denials. At some point we have got to stop paying attention when the left does this.

32 posted on 04/06/2007 11:48:04 AM PDT by Dr. Frank fan
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To: RaceBannon

Exactly but now the traitors and their media deny it all not just Iraqi relations to terrorism but Iraq WMD as well. It was OK for them to say it during the Clinton years and all the way till 2003. But for the last 4 years the traitors and their media are denying everything they said before.


33 posted on 04/06/2007 11:54:52 AM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Intelligence is RAW DATA, often substantiated by one source and discredited by another.

So much for post 911 "THINKING OUTSIDE THE BOX".

The Dims and the American people who support them are STUPID, IGNORANT or just plain American hating jerkoffs!!

34 posted on 04/06/2007 11:55:02 AM PDT by PISANO
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To: kcvl

Number of joint military operations between Germany and Japan=ZERO. Number of meetings between military commanders of Germany and Japan=ZERO. Yet they were the AXIS.


35 posted on 04/06/2007 11:55:43 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: ravingnutter

Thank you very much for posting this. That’s a lot of info collecting. Or should I say, a lot of ‘cherry picking’.


36 posted on 04/06/2007 11:58:02 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: ravingnutter
Very impressive work. Notice that most of the articles were written by the left wing media that is now denying everything they said before about Saddam regime relation to AL Qaeda.
37 posted on 04/06/2007 11:59:42 AM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

You have no idea how glad I am to hear that Cheney stood up to this! And what is with the intel agencies that they are trying to say there wasn’t a previous relationship?

Heck, if a housewife sitting in the south has figured it out, it’s criminal stupidity that the CIA can’t figure it out.


38 posted on 04/06/2007 12:01:10 PM PDT by Peach (The Clintons' pardoned more terrorists than they captured or killed.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; Grampa Dave; All

The proof is here:

http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2006/09/picture-proof-saddam-al-qaeda.html


39 posted on 04/06/2007 12:03:05 PM PDT by Matchett-PI (To have no voice in the Party that always sides with America's enemies is a badge of honor.)
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To: Peach

Cheney gives me a warm fuzzy feeling....love the guy!


40 posted on 04/06/2007 12:03:37 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The DemonicRATS believe ....that the best decisions are always made after the fact.)
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