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Thinner troops prompt military to beef up MREs
Chicago Tribune ^ | 03/30/07 | AAMER MADHANI

Posted on 03/29/2007 9:46:02 PM PDT by jmc1969

When Lt. Dave Moore visited infantry units in the remote, rugged mountains of Afghanistan late last year, the Navy medical officer was surprised to hear from many soldiers and Marines that they had lost significant weight.

After conducting more than 150 interviews with medics, officers and troops on the ground, Moore concluded that the portable rations called "Meals, Ready-to-Eat" — long derided by troops, but valued by the Pentagon for their indestructibility — were not doing the job, causing the soldiers to shed pounds that they very much needed.

The standard Meal, Ready to Eat [MRE] does not provide adequate nutrition for dismounted operations in this type of terrain," Moore wrote in his report. "Many Marines and soldiers lost 20 to 40 pounds of bodyweight during their deployment. At least one soldier was evacuated due to malnutrition and a 60-pound weight loss."

Moore's conclusions have raised concern among military leaders, as well as designers of the field rations at the Natick Soldier Research, Development & Engineering Center outside Boston.

Moore stressed in an interview that the service members he surveyed represented only a small portion of those fighting in Afghanistan — infantry troops deployed to desolate locations where MREs and local cuisine were the only options — but nonetheless he concluded that up to 1,300-calorie MREs were falling short.

A nutrition deficit, he said, could potentially result in fatigue, impaired brain function and lackluster performance.

Recognizing the seriouslness of the reports, the Combat Feeding Directorate is planning to ship about 4,000 prototypes of a new meal called the First Strike Ration to Iraq and Afghanistan. Designed for limited use, the ration contains about twice the calories of an MRE.

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To: jmc1969
I remember the original MRE's. Man they were small. It took a few years for the DOD to increase the size. I don't think there bad now. The cold weather ones are loaded. I imagine the weight loss is due more to them not being consumed in there entirety.
21 posted on 03/29/2007 10:04:56 PM PDT by BBell
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To: airborne

You guys should be given high- protein, high-carb meals - even some saturated fat wouldn't hurt you and it would improve the taste. I can see why beef sticks are so popular.


22 posted on 03/29/2007 10:08:02 PM PDT by miliantnutcase ("If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. If it stops moving, subsidize it." -ichabod1)
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To: Dacb
Alot of times on a mission, you simply don't have the room for that much food. Even after you break down the mre and stuff it into your ruck.

That's exactly the problem that is mentioned later in the article: soldiers are field stripping MREs to reduce weight, and throwing away some of the calories in the process. So the military is looking to make food that takes up less space but has more calories.
23 posted on 03/29/2007 10:08:22 PM PDT by conservative in nyc
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To: patriciaruth

Give me old fashion C-rations. After you eat the stuff, you feel stuffed. Everything is absorbed by the body, and after several days you get your first BM and it comes out like a small rock. MRE are too light and have a 5 year shelf life. C rats come in a sealed can with a 25 to 30 year shelf life. Empty metal can has many great field uses.


24 posted on 03/29/2007 10:08:43 PM PDT by Fee
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To: USAFJeeper

"Actually... I kinda liked the food :) But I am wierd like that. They were very filling though I dont see how they could eat 2 of them."


I like them both, C-Rations and MREs, the only ones that sucked were the Vietnam era LRRPs, that first batch of MREs had some pretty bad parts also, like the dehydrated sausage patty (if I remember correctly).

If I can find a couple of cases of MREs cheap enough at garage sales, I have to ration them to keep from finishing them off too quickly, it is like a party in every pouch.


25 posted on 03/29/2007 10:09:45 PM PDT by ansel12 ((America, love it ,or at least give up your home citizenship before accepting ours too.))
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To: Fee
Empty metal can has many great field uses.

You got that right!

26 posted on 03/29/2007 10:10:20 PM PDT by airborne (Freedom is worth fighting for !! And I'm in a fighting mood !! HUNTER 2008 !)
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To: jmc1969
My son calls MREs "Meals Rejected by Ethiopians".
27 posted on 03/29/2007 10:13:01 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Milligan
Meal, Ready-to-Eat - Wikipedia
28 posted on 03/29/2007 10:16:22 PM PDT by Buddy B (MSgt Retired-USAF)
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To: All

29 posted on 03/29/2007 10:17:59 PM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour
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To: Fee

Wonder what the salt and fat content of your C rats was?


30 posted on 03/29/2007 10:19:14 PM PDT by patriciaruth (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1562436/posts)
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To: Myrddin

LOL!


31 posted on 03/29/2007 10:19:48 PM PDT by patriciaruth (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1562436/posts)
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To: Brad from Tennessee
ROFL - yeah, that's what we called 'em too. It was years before I learned that the, ah, alimentary effects were deliberate.

I know some of the troopers have been getting backpacker chow in their care packages - Mountain House, that sort of stuff - but I don't know anyone having reported on how well they work. Anyone know anything about it?

32 posted on 03/29/2007 10:19:51 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Fee

TMI


33 posted on 03/29/2007 10:20:53 PM PDT by rahbert
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To: Brad from Tennessee
Remember those little chocolate disks wrapped in silver foil? We used to call them "a**hole binders." They were a cheap remedy for dysentery.

Um...*cough*...I assume you would eat them, right?

34 posted on 03/29/2007 10:21:10 PM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: Chewbacca

Maybe some of these guys were slightly overweight to begin with and after doing some hard marching they are starting to lose the flab?



if they're losing 20-40 pounds over the course of a few weeks/months, they're losing a lot more than flab.


35 posted on 03/29/2007 10:21:43 PM PDT by kms61
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To: airborne
I always preferred C-Rations.

Oh, Oh, you just dated yourself.

We liked the C-rats also. 40-50 years ago.

36 posted on 03/29/2007 10:26:04 PM PDT by Texas Mom (Two places you're always welcome - church and Grandma's house.)
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To: All

This thread is good for a laugh.


37 posted on 03/29/2007 10:30:00 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Bush Derangement Syndrome Has Reached Pandemic Levels on Free Republic.)
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To: Milligan

This is interesting but soldiers are using a lot of energy doing patrols and carrying all their gear.

I watched a PBS show called Frontier House in 2001. In one episode Mr. Clune thought he was turning into skin and bones. He was constantly hunger and felt his wife was not feeding him enough.

He ate high calorie diet to meet the demands of intense hard labor but Mr. Gordon wanted more food.

Later on a Marine Corp doctor came to the homestead. He gave Mr. Gordon a physical. He told Mr. Clune he was just doing fine. He was in tip top shape which most Marines would envy for. He told Mr. Clune he was burning all the calories from plowing manually and putting his homestead together.

http://www.pbs.org/wnet/frontierhouse/families/diary_gordon.html


38 posted on 03/29/2007 10:31:07 PM PDT by Milligan
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To: USAFJeeper

"Haha, with the smokes included!"

The best field rations I ever had were the French ones, they came in a box about the size of a Kleenex box and it included canned cheeses, Pate, a small bottle of cognac, and a full 20 pack of French Gauloises cigarettes.

I found my first box of French field rations the best I ever tasted, it wasn't until lunch rolled around that I found out the box was for all three meals.


39 posted on 03/29/2007 10:33:20 PM PDT by ansel12 ((America, love it ,or at least give up your home citizenship before accepting ours too.))
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To: Brad from Tennessee
Remember those little chocolate disks wrapped in silver foil? We used to call them "a**hole binders." They were a cheap remedy for dysentery.

Hopefully NOT in suppository form...;)

40 posted on 03/29/2007 10:33:56 PM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Tagline: you're it!)
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