[Colorado Doug]

Why would you imagine that the GOPs front runners are not for open borders and amnesty of one sort or another? The GOP would do better to get behind Duncan Hunter's ideas about immigration and China. That is something that the majority of America can and will support.

[ziravan]

Newt does have baggage. Agreed. Tell me, which of the Dems have no baggage? Newt is a statesman. He knows how to speak and inspire. We have 12 yrs of a Republican Congress to thank him for, a congress we KEPT until we sold our souls down the big government spending RINO-bricked road.

And at least Newt's baggage isn't being a RINO!

I'll take my chances with Newt's baggage vs the baggage of the big 3 dems and vs the sellout of my party any day!

I'd rather lose than sell out my principles (which I believe to be more in-line with the actual voting electorate than not). Or rather, given the choice of losing to a liberal, or losing with a liberal, what's the difference?

Maybe you think he'd give us a bone and nominate conservatives to the Supreme Cabal? So, I am encouraged to vote for RUDY because he says that, on the most important counts, he will side with MY beliefs over HIS? If that's the case, tell me, why does he support beliefs he know are on the wrong side of what's most important in the first place?

I could vote for Fred. I don't appreciate his UnConstitutional CFR vote, but I could be convinced to listen to his explanation. I like Newt. He has espoused some neo-mercantilistic views (like adoration for FDR) but in the main, I believe him to be on the right side of liberty.

I could support a conservative. It's that simple. If you want to win, the CHOICE is yours. Rudy is NOT the choice of enough of your party mates so as to lose the election you say cannot be won without him.

You have presented a false choice. It's not, "Rudy is better than nothing." In reality, for enough conservatives to change the outcome of the election, "Rudy IS nothing".

Or, haven't the real lessons of '06 sunk in? You can't out-liberal a liberal. That's like saying only the government can spend us into prosperity. . .

~faith.

[whatexit]

"We Have to Win"

"Before you take your principled stance on abortion, gay rights and gun rights and flush the Country down the liberal toilet consider the future if we let principles blind us to reality"

Based on the second quote above, I think we differ on the meaning of the first. Let me try that second quote again, and see if it comes any clearer...

"Before you take your principled stance on insert any core principle here consider the future if we let principles blind us to reality"

Nope, still can't reconcile it. Sorry, and this has nothing to do with Rudy, but I can't consider a future where we abandon our principles.

[WhiteGuy]

I appreciate your pasionate presentation of your beliefs.

I think the situation is a bit simpler than you suggest, however.


It really doesn't matter who the republicans select as their candidate. The '08 election will be a reflection of the country's satisfaction or lack thereof with president bush.

This barometer will hinge on one or two issues, overall feeling about the direction of the war in iraq, and his handling of the immigration crisis.

It's just my opinion, of course, but based on the last election here in Ohio, I'd say that if the cheif executive pisses off the citizens, his party is toast.

[hosepipe]

Sully.. Giuliani is on the same page as Hitlery Clinton on MOST issues.. also; Ted Kennedy, John sKerry, and Barney Frank..

[TChris]

Mitt Romney...He cannot convert blue states.

Huh? He was elected Governor in the bluest state! Does that count for anything?

That fact raises the hackles of many conservative purists, but it's still a fact. He's got a lot going for him, and popularity across a wide political spectrum is one of his strong suits.

[Preachin']

The good news is that I don't have to have you vote for me. I can vote with my own conscience.

There will be no pro-choicer getting my vote.

I don't even for a person if I don't know their views on abortion, and I never will.

The abortion record is enough to keep me from voting for Rudy, but his belief that the public needs to demonstrate their need for a handgun is another issue he'd have lost my vote on.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emeu2KRt2Vg

[Antoninus]

We can do better than Rudy McRomney...

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[tkathy]

I hope there are more reality based conservatives like you. If a democrat is elected POTUS, with a dim senate and house, radical pro abortion legislation will be enacted along with radical gun control.

[Antoninus]

Before you take your principled stance on abortion, gay rights and gun rights and flush the Country down the liberal toilet consider the future if we let principles blind us to reality.

No thanks. Take your liberal blather elsewhere.

I will not vote for Rudy Giuliani under ANY circumstances. None. Do you hear? He's a lying liberal crpyto-Democrat media-created candidate and no conservative should EVER vote for him in either the primary or the general election.

[dforest]

NO to Rudy. I am voting conservative.


NO

[RetiredArmy]

Whine all you want about Rudy as your man. You can have him. You vote for Rudy, you vote for LIBERALISM. Period.

[trisham]

Winning is what is important.

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Then I guess it doesn't matter which party/candidate you choose.

I'll be voting for a conservative.

[OldPossum]

and he [Guiliani] has said he will nominate originalist judges.

And you probably believe in the Easter Bunny too.

[Old_Mil]

Can they win? Can they convert blue states? I don’t think so...The entitlement crowd and blue urban states are becoming juggernauts.

This statement totally refutes the title insofar that it already presumes that we have lost, and is merely seeking the most graceful way in which to surrender.

Blue states are blue for two reasons: (1) the pro-gay, pro-abortion, affirmative-action crowd and (2) the working class crowd. Reagan successfully pulled the second group - the Reagan democrats - from the dem fold. Rockafeller Republican economic policies are driving them back. Nominating someone to try and draw group #1 above is no way to try and win an election.

[JenB]

I'd like to say sure, I can vote for the lesser of two evils. Maybe Rudy would sign a partial-birth abortion ban and Hillary wouldn't. Maybe Rudy would make me register my guns and Hillary would try taking them away. I don't know if Rudy has a position on homeschooling, my "other" issue but if he doesn't respect life or the right to defend it then I don't know if he would support other rights either.

So it coems down to whether he'd be tougher on the war on terror, and I'm sure he would be. But I still don't know that I can vote for him. That'd be actively supporting someone who supports the murder of babies, and I'm thinking that might just be a sin...

Anyway, what profit it a man to gain the world and lose his soul? Or to keep the country safe from outside threats - but wake up and discover it's not our country any more...

[Retired COB]

I like Rudy Giuliani. I believe he is electable.

I'm not willing to vote for one liberal to avoid another.

[Help!]

Pictures of Rudy in drag...on several occasions. Nuf said.

[El Laton Caliente]

The second amendment vote is seven to ten million, the right to life/evangelical is about the same. Rudy would have to pull 14 to 20 million base Dem votes to even that out... ain't happening.

A Rudy nomination puts Hellory in the Whitehouse.

[azhenfud]

"WIN"?? With RUDY??

You're as short-sighted as a jackass in blinders if you consider "winning" the 2008 presidency with a RINO on a Conservative ticket because you can't see beyond the lust of a ticker-tape celebration what it would do.

Maybe YOU don't care. I do. You'll get your "cross-over" supporters alright - but ignorant YOU can't see they are DEMOCRATS.