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Poll: Thompson Pulls Giuliani Votes
Captain's quarters ^ | March 26, 2007 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 03/27/2007 3:51:49 AM PDT by Josh Painter

USA Today and Gallup offer their latest in polling for both parties in the extended presidential primary race, and a couple of changes have raised eyebrows. First, even the rumor of a bid by Fred Thompson has dented Rudy Giuliani's momentum, while John McCain's decline in support appears to have leveled off:

"On the Republican side, former Tennessee senator Fred Thompson shook up the field with his announcement that he would consider getting into the presidential race. Thompson is familiar as the actor who plays District Attorney Arthur Branch on NBC's Law and Order. Chosen by 12% of Republican and Republican-leaning voters, Thompson is third in the Republican field. He trails former New York mayor Rudy Giuliani, at 31%, and Arizona Sen. John McCain, at 22%. Former House speaker Newt Gingrich is at 8%."

"Thompson's support seems to come largely from voters who had supported Giuliani. In the USA TODAY poll taken March 2-4, Giuliani's standing had been 13 percentage points higher, at 44%. McCain's support had been 2 points lower then."

"What does this mean? Conservatives who have supported Giuliani for his leadership and electability -- and plenty of them have -- would desert Rudy if a credible, consistent conservative entered the race... Thompson['s]... eight years in the Senate have left a more credible sense of consistency and center-right politics than Giuliani brings to the race. And according to the Post's blog The Sleuth, Thompson has begun seriously considering a run -- and has met with GOP powerhouse advisor Ed Gillespie."

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Romney fared poorly in this poll... That has to be disappointing, especially since Hugh Hewitt's political biography and Romney's appearance at CPAC should have set the stage for a significant boost. Has Thompson's potential disrupted Romney's momentum as well? Possibly.

(Excerpt) Read more at captainsquartersblog.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; fredthompson; nomination; republican; thompson
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To: The Wizard
"Thompson was an absolute failure on the Glenn Committee, showed no backbone and is best as an actor."

Let's see....that was in 1998, which resulted in the indictments of Democratic fund-raisers Charlie Trie, Maria Hsia and the charges filed against fund-raisers Johnny Chung and Yogesh Gandhi?

Considering that Janet Reno's Justice Department would pursue NO investigations of ANYTHING that incriminated the Democrat Party OR the Klintoon, the 8-7 partisan vote out of that committee was all that could be expected. In fact, the Democrats didn't even sign on to the Report produced, but instead produced their own minority report, which denied ANY Chinese money influence on the Klintoon election.

Yeah, if that's all you have for a negative on Thompson, there's nothing there.

Thompson can win nationally, no other current Republican candidate who could be considered a Conservative has the potential to win a National election right now.

101 posted on 03/27/2007 5:48:54 AM PDT by traditional1
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To: Vaquero
I LIKE Rudy...he was the best thing for NYC that came along in around 50 years.... ....but he is NOT, repeat NOT presidential timber.

I agree. Rudy made a great mayor. He would make a great governor of NY. He would make a great senator from NY. He would be great leading up the Dept of Homeland security. But he would not make a great President, at least from a conservative perspective.

102 posted on 03/27/2007 5:49:39 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: Sturm Ruger; FredHunter08; The Klingon; dcnd9; fishhound; rbosque; B-Chan; Froufrou; ...
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103 posted on 03/27/2007 5:49:41 AM PDT by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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To: traderrob6

Saw it in a recently article discussing his potential candidacy.

Probably over a week ago sorry I can't remember exactly which publication.


104 posted on 03/27/2007 5:50:52 AM PDT by OldFriend ( TOM DeLAY FAN)
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To: The Wizard
"You are up against the devil and she wants to win, and she will move many things that seem different than they are to do so...

Don't be so gullable"

Okay, Wizard, what's the solution YOU have?

105 posted on 03/27/2007 5:52:38 AM PDT by traditional1
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To: Sturm Ruger
People exactly like me. I want a CONSERVATIVE, but am not so foolish as to think someone like Duncan Hunter or Sam Brownback have a hope in hell of beating Hillary, and defeating her is #1.

The more conservative the candidate, the better---in this case, Fred is terrific. But only because he's both ELECTABLE and CONSERVATIVE. If he doesn't run, I'll reluctantly support Rudy.

Fred's great advantage is his appearance on a TV series, which gives him that recognizable face that is absolutely critical for the 20% of people who don't even pay attention until the day before the election.

106 posted on 03/27/2007 5:53:23 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of News)
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To: OldFriend

I saw an article that said Thompson's wife was urging him to run but it was by a third party. Stating that Thompson himself said his wife was urging him to run is an entirely different matter.


107 posted on 03/27/2007 5:54:39 AM PDT by traderrob6
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To: Sturm Ruger

Hugh Hewitt, excellent at picking the dead horse RINOS. LOL


108 posted on 03/27/2007 5:54:58 AM PDT by pissant (Gimme a beer, wench.)
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To: LS

he's (Thompson) both ELECTABLE and CONSERVATIVE.

Bingo!


109 posted on 03/27/2007 5:55:46 AM PDT by traderrob6
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To: traderrob6; OldFriend

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2007/03/run_fred_run.html


Fred himself didn't say it- "close friends" did..


111 posted on 03/27/2007 5:59:44 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: SE Mom

Heck, only one divorce and a nice young wife and cute little tot in tow.


112 posted on 03/27/2007 6:00:57 AM PDT by OldFriend ( TOM DeLAY FAN)
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To: OldFriend

Care to explain you ignorant post?


113 posted on 03/27/2007 6:02:24 AM PDT by Fierce Allegiance (There are 2 types of Rudy fans - the uninformed or anti-conservative TROLLS who do not belong on FR)
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To: Sturm Ruger

I'd be happy to support Rudy Giuliani as the Attorney General in President Fred Thompson's administration.


114 posted on 03/27/2007 6:04:09 AM PDT by D-Chivas
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To: spikeytx86
"Where did I ever say I supported abortion."

You didn't, and I did not mean to imply that you did. That's just one quote from Jim as to why he's against Rudy. There are many other reasons that conservatives should not back Rudy, and Jim has done an excellent job of taking Rudy's record, and his words, and pointing out why Rudy isn't worthy of getting the support of conservatives. I'll be glad to post them here if you'd like to read them.

"Giuliani promises good judges, if he does not deliver he does not get reelected."

I guess if you trust Rudy to do what he says, in spite of his record showing him doing the opposite, then Rudy's your man. For me, his words mean nothing when his record shows otherwise. Rudy has said he thought that Ruth Bader Ginsberg is a good judge too. Rudy speaks out of both sides of his mouth, which makes me wonder, which side should I believe? I believe what his record shows in NYC, not what he says when his lips are moving. It's not worth the risk to wait and see if Rudy will live up to his promise to nominate good judges. Yeah, we could vote him out the next election cycle if he does that, but how can you undo the damage that that's been done if he does that? Not worth it!
115 posted on 03/27/2007 6:04:20 AM PDT by dmw (Aren't you glad you use common sense, don't you wish everybody did?)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
Your question has me thinking, which is a good thing. President Bush impressed the heck out of me after 9/11, yet something happened. I still love him, but he lost the fire. I see that fire still in Rudy. Sometimes you just have a gut feeling about someone. The leadership in Rudy shines through, for me. As for the morality, I am not 100% comfortable answering that question. Maybe not about anyone, in the world of politics, I am not sure it is possible to be moral. Maybe we as a Country has let that happen, and I don't like it. But every single time I have let myself extol the virtues of a certain candidate, they have disappointed me. Let's face it, they all want to win, and be in power. That is the difference between me and them.

I probably didn't answer your question, but let me just say again, it is just that feeling in the pit of my soul that tells me that Rudy is the right man, at this time in history, and I honestly don't feel that about anyone else right now, but Fred Thompson is getting there, and I promise I will keep looking. We all have individual reasons that we pick one certain person, and mine might not be the same as yours, it may even be superficial, in fact, my husband doesn't even agree with me on this choice, but I will promise that regardless of who gets the nomination, I will support that person with all my heart, and money.

116 posted on 03/27/2007 6:05:04 AM PDT by codercpc
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To: dmw
My misunderstanding on abortion, my apologies.

As far as judges go, what I mean is, even if he wanted to appoint libs to the bench, he knows he can't because he wont get re-elected.
117 posted on 03/27/2007 6:13:31 AM PDT by spikeytx86 (Pray for Democrats for they have been brainwashed by their fruity little club.)
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To: codercpc

Are you suggesting that we haven't been attacked again as being mere luck and not a process put into place and supported vigorously by the President.

Despite leaks to the NYSlimes and constant bashing, this President has continued to tend to the business of keeping America safe.

Other than Rudy there is no other candidate who understands the workings of the Justice Department and the workings of the terrorist mindset. He's walked the walk. The other candidates have NOTHING to suggest they would have a clue as to how to lead this nation.


118 posted on 03/27/2007 6:13:39 AM PDT by OldFriend ( TOM DeLAY FAN)
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To: Steel Wolf
I'd basically agree, although President Bush is a visibly religious man, and Giuliani is not

That would be covered by my clause "but without the morality".

What I see in Rudy that I don't see in W is a willingness to grab his enemies by the throat and choke them to death.

I think Bush has shown the ability and will to do that. It's just his list of "enemies" is much shorter than you would like it to be. He didn't coddle Saddam, or Al Qaeda, or terrorists in guantanamo. He does coddle democrats but he doesn't see them as the enemy.

119 posted on 03/27/2007 6:16:10 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: OldFriend
Are you suggesting that we haven't been attacked again as being mere luck and not a process put into place and supported vigorously by the President.

Absolutely not, when I stated he had lost the fire, I meant only in his public appearances, and not what he was doing behind the scene. I Thank God everyday that President Bush has been the President for the past 6 years. I just wish he would articulate his fight better. Those speeches immediately after 9/11 were historic. I don't see those anymore. That was all I meant. I think that Rudy is the leader that could bring back that feeling for me.

120 posted on 03/27/2007 6:18:56 AM PDT by codercpc
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