Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 25 March 2007

Various big media television networks ^ | 25 March 2007 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

[Alas Babylon!]

The Talk Shows

Sunday, March 25th, 2007

Guests to be interviewed today on major television talk shows:

FOX NEWS SUNDAY (Fox Network): Sens. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., and Trent Lott, R-Miss.

MEET THE PRESS (NBC): Fired U.S. attorneys David Inglesias and John McKay; Sens. Richard Durbin, D-Ill., and Arlen Specter, R-Pa.

FACE THE NATION (CBS): Sens. Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., and Lindsey Graham, R-S.C.; former U.S. Attorney H.E. "Bud" Cummins.

THIS WEEK (ABC): Sen. Chuck Hagel, R-Neb.; breast cancer specialist Dr. Eric Winer; breast-cancer survivors.

LATE EDITION (CNN) : Samir Sumaidaie, Iraqi ambassador to U.S.; John Bolton, former U.S. ambassador to the U.N.; Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah; Lanny Davis, former Clinton special counsel; Donna Brazile, Democratic strategist; Ed Gillespie, former RNC chairman.

[rodguy911]

This is why you were # 1 last week.

[MNJohnnie]

Yes. Because the simple fact of the matter is the thugs who run Iran are exactly COUNTING on the limp wrist ed diplomatic response from the West. These sorts of PR victories we continually grant the thugs by always going with the standard State Department play book response only encourages the thug's political base, discourages their domestic foes and gives them a sense that they CAN do this sort of crap and get away with it as often as they like.

On the other hand, if a credible demonstration is made that their personal asses are on the line, these thugs get a whole lot less bellicose. Between that, and hitting hard the instruments of repression such as secret police HQs, Revolutionary Guards bases etc. we could do ourselves a whole lot of good with the cause they have just handed us with their stupidity.

The very fact that they ARE a nation state means they do NOT have the ability to hide their leadership targets nearly as effectively as other terrorists.

The mistake would be to hit their refineries, bridges or population centers. Instead go after their instruments of repression.

Given the edge our technology gives us to hit their leadership targets openly and hard, we have a Military option that has never before been available.

Before the old standard was that we would NOT use the military option because the collateral damage would be counter productive on their domestic political scene.

NOW, with the technologies for in close urban combat that have been perfected over the last 4 years for fighting in Iraq, we can literally hit a particular office in a certain building while NOT damaging the elementary school next door in the least.

So for the 1st time in warfare, we CAN actively go after the leadership instead of the poor dumb grunts. It time to unleash that edge. What happened to Saddam was a good first step, but every lesson needs reinformcment. The thugs of the world need to know we can, and will, hit them personally if pushed to it.

[kabar]

A bit overdramatic. Nations seize nationals from other countries all of the time, sometimes legitimately, sometimes not. Going to war or using military force has more than just immediate consequences. They have to be factored into a long term view of our strategic objectives in the region. Using military force may be exactly what the Iranian regime wants.

Three Reasons Not to Bomb Iran--Yet by Edward N. Luttwak

[samantha]

Well, this propaganda blitz of negativity against anything good and decent, and especially our Country and Military is not lost on the viewers and the American Public. They are turning them off and not buying their Newspapers, and they cannot understand why. Most of the Public gets it, and does not want to listen to a constant din of "it is all Bush's fault", "Soldier are killers and torturers", "Republicans are corrupt", complain, complain, b!tching and bellyaching 24-7 365 gets really old really fast. The fact that all these propaganda pieces are being planned, choreographed and presented by a cadre of DNC and DBM radical lefties that look like the crowd from the Bar scene from star wars makes it even less palatable.

[MNJohnnie]

Our plane collided with a Chinese fighter and was forced by damage to land. Chinese territory was the ONLY place it could land. It was NOT "forced down". The two situations were not even remotely similar and trying to create a false analogy between the two is absurd.

As for the North Koreans and the Pueblo, perhaps we would not some 40 years later still be in a state of near war with them IF ONE TIME, the State Department pukes thought about the problem instead of mindlessly reaching for the same failed playbook time after time after time after time.

How about THIS time we try something DIFFERNT in response to an open violent breach of International Law then patting the offending party on the head and buying them off?

[kabar]

Lots of breast-beating, but what you advocate is not supportable politically. Do you think the American public and the Dems in Congress will support military strikes against Iran today based on the seizure of 15 UK sailors? Hell, the US military and the President had said that Iranians are supplying the weapons to kill American personnel in Iraq. What has the reaction been by Congress? Where is the outcry from the public to do something?

[rodguy911]

interesting link,with the Iranian adm. on their political and economical asses,what would help unite the country more under mullah leadership, than a strike from the evil West.

On the other hand, I don't agree that we could not severely disrupt their nuclear ambitions just because we might not destroy each and every target.

The Iranians are struggling for cash, destruction of much or most of their nuclear buildings just might be the blow that stops them all together.

[samantha]

Could not have said it better myself......

[gov_bean_ counter]

I don't think there is a real appreciation for the corner Imanutjob has painted himself into. While he may still have the blessings of the Mullahs the natives are genuinely getting restless.

IMO, certain agencies are working diligently to further undermine his authority. Civil war will break out in Iran if this plan is allowed to continue.

[samantha]

Schumer has never even practiced Law, why in the hell is he even given any position of Authority on anything to do with the Law?

[Pukin Dog]

Bingo, and that is why the boy-wonder went home.

He didnt want to go, he was TOLD to come home by those who keep his ass in office. He wanted to preen before the U.N., to appear on the world stage as someone in control. Instead, he was snatched-back like a baby about to play in the road.

[Laverne]

There was a decent segment on CNN Late Edition today with DeGinova (Victoria Toensing's husband), and Lanny Davis. Joe was great, and Lanny was reasonable. Wolfie was an idiot.

But...at the end of the segment, Lanny said the real people that the democrats should be going after Was Senator Dominici and the female pubbie rep (whose name escapes me, Wilson maybe?). Anyway, Joe didn't say much about it. Lanny was making the point that they are guilty because they called that attorney and asked about some cases. Joe said he would have told them to go to hell, but he failed to bring up the memo that Schumer wrote to Fitzy asking him the status of the CIA leak case. Of course, Lanny and Wolfie didn't mention it either.

This is the stuff that drives me CRAZY. The double standard is amazing. They go after Dominici for asking about a case, and ignore Schumer for doing the same thing.

Argh!

[kabar]

Our plane collided with a Chinese fighter and was forced by damage to land. Chinese territory was the ONLY place it could land. It was NOT "forced down". The two situations were not even remotely similar and trying to create a false analogy between the two is absurd.

The Chinese plane collided with our plane in interational waters. They initiated it. They held the crew for 11 days and have never returned the plane. They claimed that we violated their air space. Here is a partial list of Cold War incidents that led to the death or imprisonment of Americans

As for the North Koreans and the Pueblo, perhaps we would not some 40 years later still be in a state of near war with them IF ONE TIME, the State Department pukes thought about the problem instead of mindlessly reaching for the same failed playbook time after time after time after time.

The buck stops in the WH. The State Department implements foreign policy and is only one of many foreign affairs agencies involved in making recommendations to the WH and the NSC. That's the way our government really works.

How about THIS time we try something DIFFERNT in response to an open violent breach of International Law then patting the offending party on the head and buying them off?

Different circumstances deserve different solutions. We did bomb Libya after the Berlin Discoteque bombing.

[MNJohnnie]

We make the mistake of responding the same way to the thugs running the rouge states every time.

That is the problem here. Since the 19th Century the response is always the same. Buy the local chief off, get your people back.

WAY past time people start looking for different responses to these issues. They could get away with this crap during the Cold War cause they could always play kissing face with the other side if we got too tough on them. They don't have that option anymore.

Rewarding a thug for bad behavior, (i.e. giving the Iranian Government a PR win here) only encourages him to continue being a thug. The proper response is to demonstrate clearly their are lines that he cannot cross without paying a very high price.

I think people should consider there is probably a very good reason they grabbed Brits instead of US personnel. For months now the British Foreign Minister Straw has been running around insisting there is no military option for dealing with Iran. I think the Iranians knew Bush would drop the hammer on them and went after what they thought would be the soft target for this.

[anita]

"The War in Iraq: Celebrating Four Years of Winning."

"Bush Announces Iraq Exit Strategy: 'We'll Go Through Iran.'

An Op-Ed piece declares support for the war but not the troops: "Need I remind the reader that it is our flag, not the troops, that we salute? It is our nation-state, not a bunch of 20-year-olds in parachute pants, that deserves our allegiance.... I support the occupation, and the occupation alone, because when we start to support the troops, we pave the way for irrelevant concerns about their families back at home.

All these in 'The Onion'-'s Special Iraq Issue

[MNJohnnie]

Maybe the problem here is people need to actually call the Democrats bluff. The Dems, in the US House, just pulled a stupid PR stunt they KNOW the US Senate is going to kill dead. Rather then run scared of them, the President should simply call their bluff. Make them actually put their votes where their mouths are. Right now the Democrat Leadership is in the same place the Iranians are. Their actions are having NO consequences so they think they can get away with it.

[samantha]

You are right about that, I used to have Fox on all day long, and now I cannot remember the last time I turned it on. I believe it was for the Panel on FNS a couple of weeks ago. I have had it on maybe three times in the last 6 Months. They are not listening, it has to do with their management being left wing now. Roger Ailes does not really control what he used to a couple of years ago. They think that because we caused them to have great success that we will always be there. I would not bet the farm on that, there are too many on line bloggers and websites that give us the unbiased News.

[altura]

Maybe it's just the missing hypocrisy link.

[altura]

At least the excesses of the wicked stepmother Pelosi and her merry band of fools have caused the President to finally lose patience and lash back.

And I enjoy every minute of it. Don't let up, Mr. President.

[MNJohnnie]

Instant gratification in the heat of the moment is not always the best solution. Revenge is a dish best served cold.

Assuming there ever will be any revenge. Usually this statement is merely a cover for political cowardice. Some 30 years later will still have taken NO action at all about the Iranian Hostage Crises.