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Acts 28:30-31 "30: And he (Paul) lived there two whole years at his own expense, and welcomed all who came to him, 31: preaching the kingdom of God and teaching about the Lord Jesus Christ quite openly and unhindered
1 posted on 03/24/2007 11:51:52 AM PDT by blackbeardsghost
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To: blackbeardsghost
I have quit watching TV preachers because all they seem to do is plead for money. One even says to send in a certain amount so you will get material possessions. I do not understand why people believe these people.
2 posted on 03/24/2007 11:54:35 AM PDT by MamaB
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To: blackbeardsghost

Too bad that Kenneth Copeland isn't alone in this. [I wish that I could think of that other Slime Bag's name! It used to be Tammy Faye and What's-His-Name.] The gullible will always exist. What are we to do--tell them that they can't do what they want with their money?


3 posted on 03/24/2007 11:57:36 AM PDT by Clara Lou (Run, Fred, run!)
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Geeeeee .. what a great bunch of Christians you guys are.

It's pretty difficult to fly all over the world and minister to people when you have to stand in line at airports and be stranded for hours, etc.

I'd just like to see ONE OF YOU keep the schedule the Copelands keep.

Gloria said this, and it changed my life: "I'm no different than you .. I just got up one more time."

They're not rich because they TOOK MONEY FROM PEOPLE .. they're rich because GOD has blessed them for being obedient to HIM. You all need to read how GOD blessed Abraham .. who had TONS MORE STUFF THAN THE COPELANDS. Are you all jealous of Abraham too ..??

Too bad more of you whiners did not do the same, and seek GOD's blessing, instead of being jealous and envious of what the Copeland's have.

Shame on all of you!!


6 posted on 03/24/2007 12:10:47 PM PDT by CyberAnt (Drive-By Media: Fake news, fake documents, fake polls)
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To: blackbeardsghost

Remember this is the MSM whose purpose in life is to smear Christians.


7 posted on 03/24/2007 12:11:32 PM PDT by balch3
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To: blackbeardsghost

Sadly, The defintion of what would becoming to the Lord, under Copeland, Would be very loose.


9 posted on 03/24/2007 12:13:48 PM PDT by desherwood7
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To: blackbeardsghost
Benny Hinn has got to be the absolute worst!

From Wikipedia:

Although his ministry is popular with Charismatics, many Christians are uncomfortable with certain aspects of his teaching and his lavish lifestyle. He lives in an ocean-front mansion valued at an estimated $8.5 million in an exclusive gated community in Dana Point, California, travels by private aircraft, and stays in hotel rooms costing upwards of $3,000 per night. In December 2006, he sent out a mailing asking for donations towards a new Gulfstream G4SP jet valued at an estimated $36 million.

In March 2005, Ministry Watch, an independent evangelical organization which reviews Christian ministries for financial transparency and efficiency and advises potential donors accordingly, issued a Donor Alert stating that "the reported exorbitant spending of the Hinn family reveals that BHM has far more money than it needs to carry out its ministry" and advising Christians to "prayerfully consider withholding contributions to Benny Hinn" while praying for his restoration and repentance.

Benny Hinn Ministries is not a member of the Evangelical Council for Financial Accountability.

Regarding that last sentence, gee, I wonder why not :)
11 posted on 03/24/2007 12:29:18 PM PDT by upchuck (The American Indians found out what happens when you don't control immigration.)
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http://www.ministrywatch.com/mw2.1/H_Home.asp

Heard about this on John Stossel's 20/20 report last night. It lists the good ones to donate too and bad religious scams.


12 posted on 03/24/2007 12:29:47 PM PDT by proudofthesouth (Mao said that power comes at the point of a rifle; I say FREEDOM does.)
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To: blackbeardsghost

If you click the link for the MinistryWatch grade report it says:

"Last Updated 4/7/04".

I think if you're going to cast stones at various ministries (and some deserve to have stones cast at them), you would at least want to have information that isn't three years out of date.

Also, I'd like to find out if some of these ministries have independant auditors who are willing to come forward and be named. Even if I ran a ministry and felt the need to keep my books private, I would at least want some independant verification of how much of the funds were being spent directly on ministry and how much were being spent on other things.


17 posted on 03/24/2007 12:46:54 PM PDT by Tall_Texan (When you extend your hand to a Democrat, the only thing you can expect to get is rabies.)
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I wouldn't categorize sending money to a televangelist as philanthropic.


24 posted on 03/24/2007 1:23:42 PM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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The least he could do is to buy carbon credits.

I'm surprised Ticketron hasn't launched a Ticket-to-Heaven service as profitable as it seems to be.


28 posted on 03/24/2007 1:32:22 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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I remember as a youngster (I am well into my 60's) telling my mom that I saw money to be made in religion. That I wanted to go to bible school so I could make money. She had a fit, and rightfully so, and I didn't. But in her later years she figured out that the ones on TV, making the big bucks were in it for the money...rest her soul...she so right.
45 posted on 03/24/2007 2:28:52 PM PDT by engrpat
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To: blackbeardsghost
You signed up today to post something from ABC News?

Are we only to believe what we want to believe from the DBM/ MSM..?? Known bash'ers of Christians. Known liars, fabricators, twister's of truth.

The article smacks of a dividing, envious, holier-than-thou drive-by hit-piece.

At what point in time will ABC look into the Mormon church and it's legacy wealth? At what point will they "expose" Scientology?

When will they "try" the Rev. Al Sharpton, Calipso Louie, and Je$$e Jack$on?

I could care less how much Kenneth Copeland spends, receives, gives away, tithes, etc...etc......if someone happens to think it's good "ground" what do you care? I think the Copelands are Christians...and I suppose they witness to more people in a week....than you and I do in 5 years. Is it or is that NOT the "Great Commission"?

If I want to horde my money, my time, my advice, my love....that's really none of your business either. And I couldn't care a wit what you do with yours.

Color me a bit wary of your signing up TODAY to post this by the very network ( ABC ) this site generally views with a VERY jaundiced eye.

Okay...rant off.

65 posted on 03/24/2007 3:39:19 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock. - Will Rodgers)
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Pro 13:22b....and the wealth of the sinner is laid up for the just.
82 posted on 03/25/2007 11:01:09 AM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand; but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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My mother used to watch the Lester Sumrall affiliate in the area where I grew up. He had all the usual suspects on there. Copeland, Baker, Robertson, Hinn. They've got themselves a good little business goin' on.

Anyone know anything about Lester? He always seemed like a decent fellow. I never trusted the others, but he seemed like a straight shooter.


84 posted on 03/25/2007 11:15:07 AM PDT by RepublicanPOTUSin08
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ping!!


88 posted on 03/26/2007 3:58:33 PM PDT by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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