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CALIFORNIA: Judge rules state must stop running water pumps
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 3/23/7

Posted on 03/23/2007 12:56:48 PM PDT by SmithL

Officials must first get permission to kill protected wildlife -

The state must stop running the giant pumps that send water to Southern California unless wildlife officials approve the continued killing of protected salmon and Delta smelt, a judge ruled today.

The decision by Judge Frank Roesch of Alameda County Superior Court gives the state Department of Water Resources 60 days to get the necessary permission from wildlife officials. Granting permission could, in turn, require massive efforts to increase salmon and smelt populations elsewhere.

Many environmentalists blame the exporting of Northern California water for causing sharp declines in the number of some fish species in the Sacramento-San Joaquin River Delta. The pumps operated by the state are located near Tracy and send water to the San Joaquin Valley and Southern California.

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To: Red Badger
Something smelt fishy about this.,...........

Just another spineless Judge...

61 posted on 03/23/2007 6:54:25 PM PDT by tubebender ( Everything east of the San Andreas fault will eventually plunge into the Atlantic Ocean...)
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To: SmithL

Another brain-dead Federal judge who obviously has a basement full of EVIAN.


62 posted on 03/23/2007 6:55:21 PM PDT by Minutemen ("It's a Religion of Peace")
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To: patton

It doesn't matter, just think how small their carbon footprint will be in a few years. Al Gore Rules!


63 posted on 03/23/2007 7:05:51 PM PDT by pepperdog
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To: SmithL; ElkGroveDan; Calpernia; NormsRevenge; tiamat; Baynative; bitt
Wake Up out there...It's NOT JUST CALIFORNIA...

A Pacific Northwest utility must build new fish ladders and take other steps to help salmon swim freely past four hydroelectric dams on the Klamath River if it wants to renew its license to produce electricity, federal fisheries agencies said Tuesday. The cost of the ladders, turbine screens and fish bypasses was estimated at nearly $300 million. The high cost could boost pressure on the utility, PacifiCorp, to remove the dams altogether -- something environmentalists have been pushing for. Removing the dams would open access to 350 miles of salmon spawning habitat that have been blocked...
Feds require fish ladders at Ore. dams (at four hydroelectric dams on Klamath River) OREGON


"Banning DDT wasn’t about birds. It was about power. The sooner the record on DDT is set straight, the sooner the environmentalists’ ill-gotten "authority" will be seen for what it is."
Bald Eagle-DDT Myth Still Flying High
64 posted on 03/23/2007 7:49:31 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: Red Badger

The judge didi it for the halibut. now, Californians are left floundering for a sole-ution........

The judge's head should be stuck high up on a pike for doing this. The question is why do we cod-dle these liberal judges bent on ruining our way of life. Something smelts very bad here. Like rotten fish.


65 posted on 03/23/2007 8:05:34 PM PDT by flaglady47 (thinking out loud)
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To: Minutemen

Judge Frank Roesch of Alameda County Superior Court


66 posted on 03/23/2007 8:16:38 PM PDT by SmithL (si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: GOP_1900AD
Has anyone every actually proved that the pumps suck in a significant number of fish? Most salmon head north up the Sacramento to spawn, not down into the Delta where the pumps are. Plus, if the intakes for those pumps did not screen out fish and other things in the water, they'd get fouled and the transported water would be putrid.

Whoa, hold on there! Did you get that question cleared by the California Politically Correct Science Department before you thought it?

You're going to bring the Independent Thought Police raining down on us, dude!

67 posted on 03/23/2007 10:36:49 PM PDT by 4woodenboats ("Show me what Pelosi's 100 hours brought , and there you will find things only evil and inhuman")
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To: Zeroisanumber
So lawns will get a little brown and pools will go empty, big deal. SoCal could use a little water discipline, they're drinking the Colorado River dry every year.

Naaah, Phoenix does a good job of that all by itself.

Google "Central Arizona Project" for more info.

Cheers!

68 posted on 03/23/2007 11:29:39 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Doohickey
As a native Northern Californian (Lincoln/Rocklin/Auburn), I haven't much sympathy for people who build a city in the desert and expect the rest of us to send our irrigation water south to keep their swimming pools full.

Uh huh. And please put this in perspective with growing RICE in the Sacramento area. A low value crop best suited for oh, Lousiana. I remember flying into Sacramento ( a semi desret and marveling at the miles and miles and miles of flooded rice fields, while at the same time I couldn't water my lawn or wash my car.
69 posted on 03/23/2007 11:34:50 PM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: Experiment 6-2-6
Um, no, it's called the Colorado River...

Too bad. California has taken far more than its share of Colorado river water for years. The other states with water rights have grown and are drawing their share. California was ordered to reduce the amount of Colorado river water almost 5 years ago. The principal problem is that the estimates of available water were made at a time when the Colorado was at a very high historical flow rate. It's not that way anymore. Lake Mead is significantly lower than in the past.

California really needs to build some nuke power plants and run sea water desalinization plants if they hope to keep operating a civilization in the desert.

70 posted on 03/24/2007 1:13:14 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: The Blitherer

"Um...so what am I supposed to drink? Ocean water?"

Have you considered becoming more multi-culturally oriented? Make like a Zulu and bleed your cattle for food and drink.

Got no cattle, you say? Where are the herds of cattle in urban Kalifornia, you ask?

Consider Liberals to be the new, urban cattle. Better stock up on arm length rubber gloves, and don't forget to have 'em pasteurized after you dress and clean 'em.

Liberals! They taste just like chicken ('cause they behave like chickens).


71 posted on 03/24/2007 2:57:53 PM PDT by GladesGuru
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To: Dinsdale

Ok. We'll start drilling right away! As soon as enviro-wacko's let us!


72 posted on 03/24/2007 3:06:30 PM PDT by US_MilitaryRules (Time to eradicated islambs and mooselimbs! GO PTSC)
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To: Cold Heat

Delta smelt smell similar to smelling like a cucumber smell.


73 posted on 03/24/2007 3:09:23 PM PDT by steveo (Is there anything else I can help you with today?)
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To: GOP_1900AD

Fish politics in Kalifornia have NOTHING to do with proof or logic. Logging has been severely curtailed south of the Bay because of endangered fish. The fish were put there by white sportsmen in the early 1900's. There is no archaeological proof in the record that they ever lived there naturally.For once I am glad to see the door swinging to hit all of the envior nuts in So. Cal.


74 posted on 03/24/2007 3:11:17 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (We stand on the bridge and no one may pass.)
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To: SmithL

San Diego and L.A. are gonna rue the day this envirowhacko judge took the bench.

"There'll be imminent ruage. Imminent ruage."

--Philip Seymour Hoffman, "Twister"


75 posted on 03/24/2007 3:25:38 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Will I be suspended again for this remark?)
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To: Dinsdale
Me thinks yer brain's been swallowed whole by the idiot Marc Reisner's stupid book, Cadillac Desert!!!

Read something else other than the rhetorical puke put out by the Wallace Stegner/Limosine Liberal GovernMental/EnvironMental Born Again Pagan priesthood!!!

I spose you believe that nuclear power is too risky and expensive for CA and that oil is just as toxic to the universe as plutonium. Stop buying these worn out old platitudes and attitudes and develope your own critical thinking!

Being against the peripheral canal and the Bureau of Reclamation (the "Hydraulic Brotherhood), puts you right in the camp of Jerry "Moonbeam" Brown, James Earl Carter and the two stooges I mentioned above!!! C'mon!!! Snap out of it!!!

76 posted on 03/24/2007 3:40:23 PM PDT by SierraWasp (CA is pleagued with a GANG-GREENOUS REPELLICAN GOVERNOR!!! He's worsened the Gray Davis' MESS!!!)
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To: Dog Gone
Delta smelt are just like the snail darter for blocking the TVA, but you knew that. It just shocks me how deeply the leftist EnvironMental Comyoonutty has penetrated the minds of even self professed FR CONservatives!!!

This deal here with this dumb judge is just more of the same stupid "Affirmative action for fish and plants and welfare for wildlife!" (SierraWasp!!!) It's stopped being funny when right on this very thread I see how the insipid non-logic of Wallace Stegner and Marc Riesner have pervaded the psyche of so many otherwise brilliant Americans.

It's not funny anymore. It's getting frightening!!!

77 posted on 03/24/2007 3:50:15 PM PDT by SierraWasp (CA is pleagued with a GANG-GREENOUS REPELLICAN GOVERNOR!!! He's worsened the Gray Davis' MESS!!!)
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To: SierraWasp

I agree, SW. Even in the best case scenarios, where we react to a crazy liberal proposal, we're willing to accept a 98% victory.

They keep doing it.

You don't have to do that 50 times before there's nothing worth defending.


78 posted on 03/24/2007 3:59:16 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone

Fantastic! You're one of the few that sees it my way!!!


79 posted on 03/24/2007 4:02:10 PM PDT by SierraWasp (CA is pleagued with a GANG-GREENOUS REPELLICAN GOVERNOR!!! He's worsened the Gray Davis' MESS!!!)
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To: Dinsdale

"It's the salt water intrusion into the delta that causes the most problems.
The southern Californians want to dig a canal around the delta so they can suck unlimited water from further up steam.
Northern Californians having watched what happened to the Owens valley say 'Not a chance in hell, pave over your lawns!'
At the end of the day you can caste this as enviro kook vs. S. Cal but it's not.
It's fisherman vs. farmer, with all of Northern Cal basically saying, 'No more summer water available hear, move along.'"

You are right on the money.
Why should the folks in the north tolerate the LA area wackos destroying their environment to create an artificial oasis in what was and what will again be a desert?
Its time for the south to look at and practice what has been done to save water in places like Tucson.
The San Joachin farmers have already made their river run backwards. Why should they be allowed to do the same to the rivers of the north?


80 posted on 03/24/2007 6:50:38 PM PDT by rogator
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