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1 posted on 03/21/2007 11:31:13 AM PDT by JoAnka
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To: lizol

ping?


2 posted on 03/21/2007 11:33:41 AM PDT by JoAnka
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To: JoAnka

Gee, and here, all along I thought it was the Nazi's to blame....who knew?


3 posted on 03/21/2007 11:36:38 AM PDT by Catholic Canadian ( I love Stephen Harper!)
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To: JoAnka
Ever here about the Polish Holocaust?

No? That's because it was so effective.

4 posted on 03/21/2007 11:40:07 AM PDT by mc6809e
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To: JoAnka

According to this dumb lefty the Poles were apparently complicit in killing off 1/5 of their own population. Crazy left-wing stupidity.


5 posted on 03/21/2007 11:44:53 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: wagglebee; little jeremiah
There is a pretty good refutation of the 'homophobia' accusation here in this article. It explains the function of the term and refers to a major gay agenda publication. You might like to consider pinging it. Here's the article extract in question:

One of the other issues in Rahola's article was the juxtaposition of the accusations of anti-semitism and the so-called 'homophobia'. Professor Roszkowski finds this intentional and symptomatic:

'It's very fashionable today to compare the so-called "homophobia" with anti-semitism. I strongly reject these accusations. Homophobia is a term invented by the gay and lesbian community to present this community as an oppressed community. And this is absurd. It's a result of a long series of promotion of the gay and lesbian style of life. It's already twenty years that this manifesto of the gay and lesbian movement was designed: first, to speak as often as possible about this community, to always present them as victims, and to present those who stick to the traditional values and traditional moral standards as oppressors, to present them in one line with the Nazis, with war criminals and so on. It's absolutely unacceptable.'

6 posted on 03/21/2007 11:46:25 AM PDT by JoAnka
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To: JoAnka

El País is the New York Times in Spanish.

Don't be surprised by anything they say, and don't believe it either.


7 posted on 03/21/2007 11:47:52 AM PDT by livius
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To: JoAnka

Only in the mind of a Leftist is "homophobia" and vetting of Communist sympathizers (Communism being the most murderous ideaology in the 20th century, far surpassing Nazi Germany) comparable to the Holocaust. Even more laughable is the notion that the Poles would willingly participate in an attempt to slaughter their entire nation and race. And I would hate to pound her fantasy of history flat, but 2 million dead Poles would disagree with her.


12 posted on 03/21/2007 12:09:09 PM PDT by Quick or Dead (Both oligarch and tyrant mistrust the people, and therefore deprive them of their arms - Aristotle)
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To: rmlew; Yehuda

PING


17 posted on 03/21/2007 12:24:12 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: vox_PL; 1234; ChiMark; IslandJeff; rochester_veteran; NinoFan; Alkhin; MS.BEHAVIN; MomwithHope; ...
Eastern European ping list


FRmail me to be added or removed from this Eastern European ping list

19 posted on 03/21/2007 12:58:27 PM PDT by lizol (Liberal - a man with his mind open ... at both ends)
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To: JoAnka; All

Looks, like Poland is something like a sort of a "collective George Bush" for the leftist western European "elites"

Conservative, religious, patriotic - simply a perfect object for bashing.


20 posted on 03/21/2007 1:02:59 PM PDT by lizol (Liberal - a man with his mind open ... at both ends)
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To: JoAnka
Victims speak

During the War Jews were appalled by the lack of aid they received from their neighbors and what they took to be avariciousness as some Poles usurped Jewish property now suddenly become available. The small number of Poles who preyed on Jews by turning them in for rewards made every Pole a risk to Jewish confidence. Jewish partisans were attacked and killed by Polish right wing nationalist groups who instead of making common cause against the Germans regarded the Jews as their enemies also.

It is hard to know how many Poles had sympathy for their Jewish neighbors but were paralyzed into inaction by fear. Yet incidents described above were frequent enough that it was a common Jewish perception of Polish attitudes that they were either indifferent to Jewish suffering or positively glad that the Jews were being removed. {snip}

Following WWI when the newly constituted Polish state emerged from the Versailles peace conference there began a period of civil conflict. The resulting bloodshed led to pogroms against Jews. Prior to this time anti-Jewish violence had been rare in Poland. Jews were identified with the Communists.

During Pilsudski's rule anti-Semitism moderated somewhat. However, in the 4 years between his death in 1935 and the beginning of WWII there was an increasing tide of anti-Semitism in national life.

During the 1930's when Poland was hit by massive unemployment as a result of the worldwide depression anti-Semitism became rampant. National policy was such that jobless Jews were excluded from welfare benefits. The Endecja party promoted a national boycott of Jewish merchants that so radical as to advocate the confiscation of Jewish businesses.

At the universities Jewish enrollment was restricted and Jews had to sit in a segregated area of the classroom. The restrictions were so inclusive that while in 1921 Jews made up 24.6% of the student population by 1938 their share was down to only 8%. There was physical violence as well. Right-wing students assaulted their Jewish associates with canes and razors.

In the late 1930's the Polish government became increasingly concerned with the "Jewish Question." The favored solution was mass Jewish emigration. Under the guise of animal rights there was a national movement to forbid the Jewish ritual slaughter or koshering of animals.

It has been pointed out that anti-Semitism is not the same thing as mass murder. Polish anti-Semitism never envisioned wholesale murder.


23 posted on 03/21/2007 1:19:36 PM PDT by APRPEH (Hillary probably wouldn't approve, but I can live with that....)
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To: JoAnka
The article in El Pais also attacked Poland's recent vetting, or 'lustration' law.

What is this law?
27 posted on 03/21/2007 1:36:39 PM PDT by MelonFarmerJ (Proudly voting Republican Conservative in every election since 1964)
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To: JoAnka

BTTT


34 posted on 03/21/2007 2:34:09 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("Jesu, Jesu, Jesu, esto mihi Jesus" -St. Ralph Sherwin's last words at Tyburn)
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To: JoAnka
Huh?
6 million Polse died in WW2. 1/3 were Jewish.
Hitler wanted to kil 1/3 of Slavs, enslave 1/3, and expell 1/3.
The Spanish communist should be imprisoned.
35 posted on 03/21/2007 2:43:07 PM PDT by rmlew (It's WW4 and the Left wants to negotiate with Islamists who want to kill us , for their mutual ends)
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To: JoAnka

The Polish King was the one who invited the Jews who were kicked out of Iberia into his country in 1492.


59 posted on 03/22/2007 1:47:18 PM PDT by montag813
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