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1 posted on 03/20/2007 8:21:59 AM PDT by areafiftyone
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To: areafiftyone; Victoria Delsoul

So much for the base being alienated by Rudy McRomney - combined they represent a powerful majority of the GOP base.

It appears that the pockets of negativity about these three is limited to impotent members of public internet forums.


65 posted on 03/20/2007 9:31:54 AM PDT by HitmanLV ("If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking until you do suck seed." - Jerry 'Curly' Howard)
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To: areafiftyone

Well, I was polled by Quinnipiac last night and I identified myself as a conservative, and I named Rudy my preferred candidate among the announced Republicans, pending Fred Thompson.

So I guess I was lying?


72 posted on 03/20/2007 9:42:39 AM PDT by denydenydeny ("We have always been, we are, and I hope that we always shall be detested in France"--Wellington)
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Lefties are capable of being happy with moderately pro-life Democrats like Casey in Pennsylvania when the alternative is the bogeyman Rick Santorum.

Why can't conservatives be happy that a moderate conservative will beat Hillary and Osama Obama like drums?


79 posted on 03/20/2007 9:48:41 AM PDT by Democratshavenobrains
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To: areafiftyone
Obviously the silent majority was overlooked..
Most probably ON PURPOSE... the brain wash continues..

Wonder what a poll of 30 million or more Legal and Illegal Aliens VOTING habits would produce?..
WHAT?.. what?.. Jeese it was just a question..

103 posted on 03/20/2007 10:15:39 AM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole)
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1. "National" polls count for nothing. If they did, Colin Powell would be President.

2. Let's see what happens in January and February, especially if Fred starts campaigning.

116 posted on 03/20/2007 10:23:48 AM PDT by Clemenza (NO to Rudy in 2008! New York's Values are NOT America's Values!)
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To: areafiftyone

All those #'s go to S#it when Fred Thompson get's added to the mix.


117 posted on 03/20/2007 10:25:01 AM PDT by roaddog727 (BullS##t does not get bridges built)
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To: areafiftyone

Can't you RuBot Spammers take a break? Do you think you are helping?


144 posted on 03/20/2007 10:44:14 AM PDT by devane617 (Let's take back our country -- get a job in the MSM, or education system. We need you.)
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To: areafiftyone

Not this conservative


175 posted on 03/20/2007 11:03:12 AM PDT by servantboy777
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We can do better than Rudy McRomney...

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186 posted on 03/20/2007 11:19:24 AM PDT by Antoninus (I don't vote for liberals, regardless of party.)
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To: areafiftyone

Other survey findings:

--most of Guiliani's harshest critics post daily on the FreeRepublic website. (unfavorable to just 13% of conservative Republicans; favorable to 80% of conservative Republicans)

--most of Hunter's supporters post daily on the FreeRepublic website.

......meantime on another channel, McCain gets Iowa immigration earful--indicates his position might be changed. Would review Pence proposal, dubbed "touchback."

......regarding immigration in Iowa, McCain shows at least understanding of issue, political skills. Sam Brownback is virtually unable to answer, asking to change topics.

......Fred Thompson writes Paul Harvey column on immigration. Hard to tell his position.

......immigration is clearly of interest to Republican primary voters. Guiliani better polish up on this issue.


187 posted on 03/20/2007 11:20:19 AM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: areafiftyone

Bump!


241 posted on 03/20/2007 1:25:59 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: areafiftyone

If Rudy Julie Annie switched to the Democrat party could be elected president. He will not be selected by the Republican party.


273 posted on 03/20/2007 2:07:48 PM PDT by missnry (The truth will set you free!)
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Hannity has a poll on his site


http://www.hannity.com/index/sitepoll-results-action/poll.198


283 posted on 03/20/2007 2:21:31 PM PDT by Gracey (Rudy/Rice..... 2008 vs Hitlary/Osama Obama)
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To: areafiftyone

Now let's give it a run and slap Ron Paul's name on there. Since he's already running ahead of Brownback, Hunter, and Thompson, we'll see how he does. Personally I can't wait for the debate in May that Paul has already accepted. Wonder if any of the others will have the guts to step on stage with a conservative?


339 posted on 03/20/2007 4:58:39 PM PDT by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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To: areafiftyone

This poll is crap! I don't know one conservative who would vote for Rudy!


357 posted on 03/20/2007 9:16:06 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Misery loves miserable company.......ask any liberal. Hunter in 08!)
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Rudy's Right Record
Giuliani’s pre-9/11 performance should ease conservatives’ doubts.

By Deroy Murdock, National Review

The same Beltway experts who anointed Senator John McCain (R., Ariz.) the GOP frontrunner, even as he under-polled fellow presidential contender Rudolph W. Giuliani, now parrot equally dodgy talking points: When Republicans meet “the real Rudy,” they will abandon New York’s former mayor like cattle fleeing a burning barn. Then, the wobbly Washington wisdom continues, Giuliani’s three marriages, and his less-than-solidly right-wing views on gays, guns, and gametes will torpedo his buoyant presidential hopes.

These seers now detect unhappiness with the GOP aspirants. They cite a recent Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll in which 26 percent of Republican primary voters were dissatisfied with Giuliani, McCain, and former Massachusetts governor Willard Mitt Romney, among others. However, 56 percent called these choices satisfactory. This lines up with the 57 percent of conservative Republicans who preferred Giuliani, versus 31 percent for McCain. More broadly, Republicans backed Giuliani 38 percent to McCain’s 24, former House speaker Newt Gingrich’s 10, Romney’s 8, and 2 percent each for Kansas Senator Sam Brownback and former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee.

But what if voters like Giuliani better once they understand his pre-9/11 performance? Educating Republicans on his complete mayoral record — and soon — may be Giuliani’s best bet for extinguishing lingering grumbling about his candidacy.

I recently visited Baltimore, Charlotte, Richmond, Salem, Oregon; Seattle, and Johnstown, Pennsylvania, mainly to deliver speeches sponsored by Young America’s Foundation. I conversed with conservative activists, College Republican leaders, university professors, and think-tank scholars, among others.

These Americans vividly remember Giuliani emerging from the ashes of September 11, like a latter-day Churchill rising from the rubble of the London Blitz. However, these involved and informed citizens knew startlingly little about Giuliani’s other mayoral achievements:

Through robust policing, Giuliani drove overall crime down 56.1 percent, while chopping homicides 66.6 percent, from 1,946 in 1993 to 649 in 2001.

Abortions on Giuliani’s watch dropped 16.9 percent, according to figures from the New York State Office of Vital Statistics. It reports 103,997 legal abortions in New York City in 1993 and 86,466 in 2001. Abortions fell more quickly under the pro-choice Giuliani than they did nationwide. The pro-choice Guttmacher Institute tracked 1,495,000 abortions across the U.S. in 1993 versus 1,303,000 in 2001. This 12.8 percent national decrease lagged the swifter fall-off in local abortions during Giuliani’s tenure. Meanwhile, taxpayer-funded Medicaid abortions plunged 22.9 percent under Giuliani. Giuliani’s pro-choice rhetoric seemed to accompany an official hands-off policy that otherwise did not promote abortion.

Gotham’s foster-care population fell 38 percent as Giuliani helped loving families adopt 17,804 boys and girls.

By fighting fraud and finding work for legitimate beneficiaries, Giuliani cut welfare rolls 58 percent, starting two years before federal welfare reform. Giuliani renamed welfare offices “Job Centers.”

Giuliani privatized 23,625 previously confiscated, city-owned dwellings, 78 percent of supply, benefiting family and individual homeowners and tenants.

Pursuant to his “One Standard. One City” campaign slogan, Giuliani dumped Gotham’s 20 percent set-aside and 10-percent overbid bonus for minority and female contractors. “The whole idea of quotas to me perpetuates discrimination,” he explained. He initiated this on his 24th day in office, far exceeding any colorblindness legislation Congress even debated during the 12-year “Republican Revolution.”

Similarly, Giuliani shuttered the David Dinkins-era Offices of African-American/Caribbean Affairs, Asian Affairs, European-American Affairs, Gay Community Affairs, Immigrant Affairs, Jewish Community Affairs, and Latino Affairs.

Giuliani’s $10 million Charter School Improvement Fund helped 3,286 pupils in 17 new charter schools, up from $0, zero students, and zero campuses in 1997. He ended tenure for school principals, so slackers could be sacked. He also stopped social promotion; students needed to complete grade-level work to matriculate.

Giuliani ended “open admissions” at the City University of New York. Mean SAT scores for incoming freshmen rose from 863 in 1993 to 1049 in 2001, a 21.6 percent improvement. Stricter entrance requirements did not impede minorities, as critics ominously predicted. First-time freshmen enrollment at CUNY’s seven senior colleges grew from 7,104 in fall 1999 to 9,576 in fall 2006, up 34.8 percent. Black-student arrivals simultaneously increased from 1,655 to 1,765 (up 6.65 percent). Hispanic freshmen jumped 37.1 percent, from 1,771 to 2,428. Meanwhile, blacks earned 5.15 percent more bachelor degrees, from 3,843 in 1999-2000 to 4,041 in 2005-2006. For Hispanics, the equivalent figures were 2,456 and 3,032 — a 23.45 percent advancement.

In September 1999, Giuliani loudly wondered why taxpayers helped finance a Brooklyn Museum exhibition that featured a painting of the Virgin Mary decorated with a dried chunk of elephant dung. Photos of vaginas and recta, clipped from adult magazines, also festooned artist Chris Ofili’s depiction of Jesus’ mom.

“The city shouldn’t have to pay for sick stuff,” Giuliani said. Often decried by Giuliani critics as an attack on free speech, he merely asked why such a provocative work could not appear in a private museum, without government subsidy.

Meanwhile, ex-pornography mecca Times Square now welcomes families, tourists, and locals for fully clothed musicals like The Lion King and Mary Poppins. Under Giuliani, the city prohibited sex shops within 500 feet of schools, churches, and residential communities.

Beyond these socially conservative victories, Giuliani governed as a Reaganesque supply-sider:

Giuliani scrapped three taxes and slashed 20 others, lowering Gotham’s tax burden by 17 percent and saving individual and business taxpayers $9.8 billion. A family of four earning $50,000 saw its local taxes plummet 23.7 percent.

While inflation averaged 3.9 percent, Giuliani’s average spending grew 2.9 percent annually. If the departed GOP Congress were that fiscally disciplined, the next federal budget would be $2.275 trillion — $625 billion cheaper, Cato Institute fiscal analyst Stephen Slivinski calculates.

While hiring 12 percent more cops and 12.8 percent more teachers, Giuliani sliced other positions 17.2 percent. Overall, municipal headcount fell 3.1 percent.

These policies helped cut local unemployment from 10.4 percent in 1993 to 5.7 percent in 2001. Tourist arrivals rose 32 percent in that period, while the Big Apple’s population grew 9.3 percent. People who came stuck around, and those already here stopped evacuating, as they were doing before Giuliani Time. Not insignificantly, the personal incomes of New Yorkers ballooned 53 percent during Giuliani’s tenure.

Rudy got this done thanks largely to a management style that he described Wednesday at a $2 million Manhattan fundraiser: “I’m impatient and single-minded about my goals.”

Giuliani’s legacy has earned him the endorsements of such screaming liberals as President Bush’s former solicitor general, Ted Olson, as well as Senator David Vitter (R., La.) and Congressman Pete Sessions (R., Texas) — both proud owners of 100 percent ratings from the National Right to Life Committee.

Before Giuliani’s enemies caricature him as a divorce-driven, abortion-peddling, gun-grabbing transvestite, he should familiarize Republicans with his mayoral accomplishments. From Westwood to Washington’s echo chamber, Rudy Giuliani and his supporters should specify how he rescued America’s largest left-wing city through Reaganite social and economic reforms.


— Deroy Murdock is a New York-based columnist with the Scripps Howard News Service and a media fellow with the Hoover Institution.



359 posted on 03/21/2007 4:43:53 AM PDT by writeblock
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These results are based on telephone interviews with a randomly selected national sample of 849 Republicans and Republican-leaning independents, aged 18 and older, conducted Feb. 9-11, 2007, and Mar. 2-4, 2007.



Digging up old poll data gathered before the nation knew that Giuliani was a pro-gay pro-abort and Romney was pro-gay isn't accurate. It's not even news.
448 posted on 05/09/2007 4:46:23 PM PDT by Old_Mil (Duncan Hunter in 2008! A Veteran, A Patriot, A Reagan Republican... http://www.gohunter08.com/)
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