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Warming On Jupiter, Mars, Pluto, Neptune's Moon & Earth Linked to Increased Solar Activity
US Senate Committee on Environment and Public Works - Newsroom ^ | March 12, 2007 | Lorne Gunter

Posted on 03/18/2007 9:16:55 PM PDT by sbMKE

Mars's ice caps are melting, and Jupiter is developing a second giant red spot, an enormous hurricane-like storm.

The existing Great Red Spot is 300 years old and twice the size of Earth. The new storm -- Red Spot Jr. -- is thought to be the result of a sudden warming on our solar system's largest planet. Dr. Imke de Pater of Berkeley University says some parts of Jupiter are now as much as six degrees Celsius warmer than just a few years ago.

Neptune's moon, Triton, studied in 1989 after the unmanned Voyageur probe flew past, seems to have heated up significantly since then. Parts of its frozen nitrogen surface have begun melting and turning to gas, making Triton's atmosphere denser.

Even Pluto has warmed slightly in recent years, if you can call -230C instead of -233C "warmer."

And I swear, I haven't left my SUV idling on any of those planets or moons. Honest, I haven't.

Is there something all these heavenly bodies have in common? Some one thing they all share that could be causing them to warm in unison?

Hmmm, is there some giant, self-luminous ball of burning gas with a mass more than 300,000 times that of Earth and a core temperature of more than 20-million degrees Celsius, that for the past century or more has been unusually active and powerful? Is there something like that around which they all revolve that could be causing this multi-globe warming? Naw!

They must all have congested commuter highways, coal-fired power plants and oilsands developments that are releasing large amounts of carbon dioxide into their atmospheres, too.

A decade ago, when global warming and Kyoto was just beginning to capture public attention, I published a quiz elsewhere that bears repeating in our current hyper-charged environmental debate: Quick, which is usually warmer, day or night?

And what is typically the warmest part of the day? The warmest time of year?

Finally, which are generally warmer: cloudy or cloudless days?

If you answered day, afternoon, summer and cloudless you may be well on your way to understanding what is causing global warming.

For the past century and a half, Earth has been warming. Coincidentally (or perhaps not so coincidentally), during that same period, our sun has been brightening, becoming more active, sending out more radiation.

Habibullah Abdussamatov of the Pulkovo Astronomical Observatory in St. Petersburg, Sami Solanki of the Max Planck Institute for Solar System Research in Germany, Sallie Baliunas and Willie Soon of the Solar and Stellar Physics Division of the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics and a host of the rest of the world's leading solar scientists are all convinced that the warming of recent years is not unusual and that nearly all the warming in the past 150 years can be attributed to the sun.

Solar scientists from Iowa to Siberia have overlaid the last several warm periods on our planet with known variations in our sun's activity and found, according to Mr. Solanki, "a near-perfect match."

Mr. Abdussamatov concedes manmade gasses may have made "a small contribution to the warming in recent years, but it cannot compete with the increase in solar irradiance."

Mr. Soon showed as long ago as the mid-1990s that the depth of the Little Ice Age -- the coldest period in the northern hemisphere in the past 1,500 years -- corresponded perfectly with a solar event known as the Maunder Minimum. For nearly seven decades there was virtually no sunspot activity.

Our sun was particular quiet. And for those 60 to 70 years, the northern half of our globe, at least, was in a deep freeze.

Is it so hard to believe then that the sun could be causing our current warming, too?

At the very least, the fact that so many prominent scientists have legitimate, logical objections to the current global warming orthodoxy means there is no "consensus" among scientists about the cause.

Here's a prediction: The sun's current active phase is expected to wane in 20 to 40 years, at which time the planet will begin cooling. Since that is when most of the greenhouse emission reductions proposed by the UN and others are slated to come into full effect, the "greens" will see that cooling and claim, "See, we warned you and made you take action, and look, we saved the planet."

Of course, they will have had nothing to do with it.


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The increase in solar output has been well documented by the likes of NASA and MIT for many years. Yet, Discovery Channel runs a special tonight in which an "expert" proclaims that only 6 scientists disagree with manmade global warming...

Who turned the sun up?

1 posted on 03/18/2007 9:17:00 PM PDT by sbMKE
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To: sbMKE

It's cyclical, unlike earth warming which has nothing to do with nature.


2 posted on 03/18/2007 9:18:26 PM PDT by Ieatfrijoles (Incinerate Riyadh Now.(Request shot splash))
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To: sbMKE

Bush's fault !


3 posted on 03/18/2007 9:19:49 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Cheney X -- Destroying the Liberal Democrat Traitors By Any Means Necessary -- Ya Dig ? Sho 'Nuff.)
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To: sbMKE

PTT


4 posted on 03/18/2007 9:20:29 PM PDT by LeGrande (Muslims, Jews and Christians all believe in the same God of Abraham.)
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To: sbMKE

Discovery channel should stick to catching crabs off Alaska and leave the science stuff to someone not afraid of their own shadow.


5 posted on 03/18/2007 9:21:02 PM PDT by A message (We who care, Can Not Fail)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Cheney's diabolical weather machine has had some upgrades - he now controls the Sun!


6 posted on 03/18/2007 9:21:09 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: sbMKE

7 posted on 03/18/2007 9:21:57 PM PDT by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: Ieatfrijoles

The entire control group is warming. You can't declare different causes of warming non-chalantly when your whole control group is in lockstep.


8 posted on 03/18/2007 9:22:28 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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Discovery channel should stick to catching crabs...

There is a joke in there...somewhere...
9 posted on 03/18/2007 9:22:28 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: sbMKE

The "climatologists" are running into trouble because not all other branches of science got the memo about not contradicting them.

I still remember the days of global cooling. All the reputable natural history museums and science exhibits talked about "The Coming Ice Age".

Those scientists haven't gone away and are many in the ranks of geologists etc.

But since "climatologists" are only composed of global warming supporters by definition then they don't count.

I mean how does one claim on one hand that the great lakes were the by product of glacial activity and on the other hand claim the glaciers that aren't there any more weren't melted by non manmade warming ?

The examples like this are endless.


10 posted on 03/18/2007 9:23:24 PM PDT by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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To: sbMKE

Gorebal warming!


11 posted on 03/18/2007 9:25:34 PM PDT by TheLion (How about "Comprehensive Immigration Enforcement," for a change)
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To: Southack

I agree. But this won't keep them from trying to spin their way out of this.


12 posted on 03/18/2007 9:25:38 PM PDT by Ieatfrijoles (Incinerate Riyadh Now.(Request shot splash))
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To: sbMKE

I thought it was all those SUVs and factories on Mars that was creating the warming.


13 posted on 03/18/2007 9:26:45 PM PDT by Cymbaline (I repeat myself when under stress I repeat myself when under stress I repeat myself when under stres)
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To: sbMKE
Alignment of planets in April of 2002.



Who turned the sun up?
14 posted on 03/18/2007 9:28:31 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (Keelhauling is a sensible solution to mutiny.)
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The global warming climate change hoax is similar to the Darwinian hoax.

Both ONLY work if one selects a date and goes forward from that date.

If one goes in the reverse direction, far enough back in pre-history, the theory falls apart.

That is why the global warming climate change group claim the latter part of the 1900s as the time when humanity began to ruin the planet and initiate this calamity. If they go much earlier, their theory doesn't hold up. And extreme cold in certain parts of the world have caused them to start referring to their hoax as global climate change rather than global warming. The warming part just doesn't hold up. Climate change does. [Duh! Climates have changed 2x per year since the globe started spinning a few billion eons ago.]
15 posted on 03/18/2007 9:29:41 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Southack

You'd think that scientists would be able to work with the moon to some degree (no pun intended) to gauge solar warming vs. terrestrial global warming.

If a set of planets with extremely diverse atmospheres are all experiencing warming, then I think a single-minded attack on "the one true cause" (the Gore "humans did it, Republicans mostly" angle) is entirely invalid.


16 posted on 03/18/2007 9:30:17 PM PDT by sbMKE
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To: sbMKE
THE COOLING WORLD
Newsweek, April 28, 1975

There are ominous signs that the Earth’s weather patterns have begun to change dramatically and that these changes may portend a drastic decline in food production – with serious political implications for just about every nation on Earth. The drop in food output could begin quite soon, perhaps only 10 years from now. The regions destined to feel its impact are the great wheat-producing lands of Canada and the U.S.S.R. in the North, along with a number of marginally self-sufficient tropical areas – parts of India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Indochina and Indonesia – where the growing season is dependent upon the rains brought by the monsoon. . .

http://denisdutton.com/cooling_world.htm
17 posted on 03/18/2007 9:37:18 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (Anything a politician gives you he has first stolen from you)
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To: sbMKE

You're undermining the leftist religion.

Next you'll say something against abortion, their highest sacrament.

What's wrong with you?


18 posted on 03/18/2007 9:37:35 PM PDT by TBP
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To: fieldmarshaldj

It's a plot by Bush, Rove and Cheney to warm up Saturn's moon Titan and unfreeze all those hydrocarbons and corner the market for the next 10,000 years;)


19 posted on 03/18/2007 9:38:58 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: sbMKE
Red Spot Jr. sucks for a name. They should have named it Katrina II.
20 posted on 03/18/2007 9:38:59 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (When I was a kid, "global warming" was known as "the weather.")
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