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I suppose we're now going to be told that this is true because the GOP is ignorant. :-)
Here is another one for you to debunk.
That puts in perspective all those Rudy wars on this site.
Read the last line from this story:
http://www.nypost.com/seven/03152007/news/regionalnews/rudy_wings_away_at_the_plate_in_midtown_fund_raiser_regionalnews_maggie_haberman.htm
"Meanwhile, Tim O'Brien, the campaign's director of rapid response, suddenly quit yesterday."
Was he blind-sided by the revelation about Bracewell & Giuliani's connection to CITGO and Communist dictator Hugo Chavez?? Or was it the indictment of his close friend Bernie Kerik??
So does this mean that Democrats have all of a sudden turned conservative? Or does this mean ___________ has turned Democrat?
The problem with these types of "definitely vote for" and definitely vote against" polls are that with the race already so hot, people are answering based on their own game theory of how to help their candidate.
For example, I can't believe that only 52% of republicans would, in the end, for for Giuliani -- I'd expect at least 70% to do so. But I can't believe that the same or more real republicans wouldn't vote for Hunter, or Romney, or any other candidate other than McCain who a lot of people think is crazy.
So why do so many republicans insist they can't vote for one candidate, or that they aren't sure?
Well, Rudy is the only liberal candidate in the race. So of those republicans who vote liberal, there's no other first choice. Thus the 52% who definitely would support him. Meanwhile, a conservative backing Romney or Hunter would probably want to keep down the other's numbers by NOT saying they'd vote for him, and instead saying they would definitely vote AGAINST them.
But still, why don't all the conservatives say they'd be against Giuliani?
First, because a lot of them don't want to torpedo the guy who they are told will probably be the nominee. Easier to kill off the low-lying fruit in the hopes of elevating your candidate, than trashing the front-runner.
Second, each of them wants THEIR candidate to be the one who is the "only salvation" from Rudy. To sell that, they need Rudy to look dangerous, thus voting FOR Rudy to inflate him is helpful to their cause of scaring the electorate.
The Rudy people understand this, which is why their number one attack on Thompson is to scare Thompson supporters with the idea that it only helps McCain (as you can see in the FR poll, McCain is one of the few candidates that Rudy can beat on FR).
For conservatives, Rudy was the placeholder, the guy that we knew couldn't really win, but who could suck the life out of the other moderates, and be a good "placeholder" so our candidate, whoever that was, had a chance to gain traction.
Let's face it -- Duncan Hunter supporters believe he can overtake Rudy if he's the only choice, but they also knew that if Romney was also above 30% Hunter was sunk, and they knew that if Rudy got knocked down to 10% those votes were going to McCain or Romney.
So it was in their interest to keep Rudy up until the "right time".
Now they are panicking because they (not just Hunter's group, I think a lot of the groups did thi) did too well, and people are thinking Rudy can win and that's going to be bad for their candidates.
This left an opening for a guy like Fred Thompson, who in the absense of a Rudy lead probably wouldn't be considering a run. But because conservatives are scared of Rudy, Thompson is getting remarkable traction -- which isn't good for the 1%ers in the race.
I also wonder how many independents and democrats are saying they are republican to build up Rudy. If there was a democrat running that had traction and was as conservative as Rudy is liberal, I might do that to get a better opponent in case we lost.
Giuliani's riding high on his 9-11 fame right now. But wait until the average conservative is made aware of Giuliani's pro abortion stance, and his pro-homosexual stance, and his pro-illegal alien stance, and his pro-Affirmative Action stance, and his anti-gun stance. In other words, wait until they find out he's a stark raving liberal.
I am so sorry but when I see on of these Rudy gatherings I feel compelled to post one of my parody songs. I will submit my Beatles selection.
"Come Together"(cue intro in mind)
Here come the mayor, he will, walk on my water
He got, liberal genomes, he's a RINO savior.
He got his something round the GOP.
One thing you can count on is his mo-ral-ity?
He dress like Marilyn, he got, moles and falsies
He's so, homo-friendly, likes to, stop them babies
He say "I know ways, to make you free"
First you take your pistols and just give them to me.
Come together, right now, vote Rudy.
He's mucho macho, He own, all of the City .
He has, love of millions, his heart's, psueso plastic.
He's the neo-neo right, of Bill's Hillary.
Just stare into the Kool aid until you can believe.
Come together right now, vote Rudy
He racehorse winner, he can, beat the lady.
He's not, spawned of Satan, he is, all pro Israel
He stood in rubble, saw him on the TV.
To hell with values son it's Gu-li-ani
Come together right now, vote Rudy
Polling in newyork. who would of guessed
Rudy bump.
100% RAT.
His record speaks louder than his lies.
