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Bill Simon (CA conservative) soothes conservatives' concerns over Giuliani
Scripps News ^ | March 14, 2007 | PETER HECHT

Posted on 03/14/2007 4:21:46 PM PDT by FairOpinion

Bill Simon, an unsuccessful 2002 California gubernatorial candidate, former federal prosecutor under Giuliani and bedrock social conservative, delivered a spirited intro.

"He comforted us. He inspired us in what was one of the darkest moments in our history," Simon said, extolling Giuliani's leadership after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. "Extraordinary times cry out for extraordinary leadership, and these as such times."

"It would be fair to say that Bill Simon is using his personal cachet to vouch for Giuliani," said Jon Fleischman, a conservative Republican activist and publisher of the Flash Report political newsletter. "Giuliani is a moderate on social issues, yet Simon has been a champion to conservatives on those same issues.

"When I talk to conservatives supporting Giuliani, many of them say, 'I'm putting my faith on what Bill Simon says.' "

First he told a hotel ballroom crowded with conservative GOP delegates that his former boss was "a fellow Ronald Reagan Republican," who cut taxes, cleaned up New York and put "countless career criminals behind bars."

He said Simon explained that Giuliani opposes partial-birth abortions and tax-funded abortions and _ though Giuliani supports domestic partnerships _ he believes marriage is strictly between man and a woman.

"If he (Simon) is endorsing Giuliani, it makes some members of the conservative wing of the party feel safer," said Gaines, a Giuliani convert. "I did have concerns. But with the explanation of how he (Giuliani) would view Supreme Court appointments, I have a level of comfort."

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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: billsimon; california; electionpresident; elections; giuliani; moreheatthanlight; rudy; simon
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To: You Dirty Rats
One can strongly oppose Rudy's campaign for President without denigrating him.

Please, I've seen posts simply pointing out Rudy's liberal record and the poster gets called a "Rudybasher."

In fact, those attacks on a man respected worldwide for his leadership during that time only make the attacker look bad, not Rudy.

Yes, Rudy did a good job running NYC, but that's all he's good for. Let him clean up Detroit or be Mayor of D.C.

101 posted on 03/14/2007 6:52:22 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Good night Chesty, wherever you are!)
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To: Repub4bush

"I have included in my morning and evening prayers every day, the prayer that the Federal Government not bail out New York City."
- Ronald Reagan


102 posted on 03/14/2007 6:53:01 PM PDT by LtdGovt ("Where government moves in, community retreats and civil society disintegrates" -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: LtdGovt
Rudy had 2000 people killed in his city, every year

Any of these murders committed by law-abiding citizens?

103 posted on 03/14/2007 6:54:36 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Good night Chesty, wherever you are!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Southern manners be damned when you slam a horrible tragedy! Or at the least don't condemn the poster for posting such drivel!

You people don't get it! I was supposed to be on a plane in Newark that morning!

I thank God I changed my flight time!

My parents were totally distraught until they heard my voice on the phone.

You guys that don't live in this area and will never understand, if you can't get it by now, you never will!~

This had nothing to do with Rudy... This has to do with being attacked... GET IT!

104 posted on 03/14/2007 6:56:28 PM PDT by Repub4bush (FWF.....Speechless!)
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To: Sunsong
Duncan Hunter who is so popular among social conservatives here is NOT a fiscal conservative.

I would rather have a fiscally-liberal Republican than a social-liberal Republican.

I think Hunter will come around on fiscal matters. Of course, it's an albatross for him, but if he chooses someone like Mike Pence then the ticket is virtually unbeatable.

105 posted on 03/14/2007 6:58:17 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Good night Chesty, wherever you are!)
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To: FairOpinion
..I voted for Bill Simon--BUT

Isn't it interesting that so many people have to come out and attempt to sooth conservative suspicions--because the candidate and his record cannot...

106 posted on 03/14/2007 6:58:27 PM PDT by WalterSkinner ( ..when there is any conflict between God and Caesar -- guess who loses?)
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To: LtdGovt

This thread is about Bill Simon breaking conservative ranks and supporting/defending Rudy Giuliani. In my post at #21 I point out that if Simon wants to support Rudy, that is his personal choice. But his support of Giuliani shouldn't be confused with the issues relevant to conservatives. I then go on to list those issues that are relevant to conservatives. It goes beyond one or two issues and has nothing to do with Ronald Reagan. You RudyLoons are desperate.


107 posted on 03/14/2007 6:59:33 PM PDT by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: Repub4bush

I was going to take my family to NYC in Aug 2001 but it was 100 degrees so we postponed it to Thanksgiving when we were back on the East Coast.

We took the ferry from Hoboken with my mom (GoldwaterChick), my wife and my two kids (14G and 10B). We first saw all of the pictures, teddy bears, notes from kids to parents, etc. all weatherstained, and we could still smell burning Ground Zero. My daughter read some of the items and then had to sit down to cry. Up until then it was just something on TV; but at that moment she realized just how real and serious it was.


108 posted on 03/14/2007 6:59:41 PM PDT by You Dirty Rats (I Love Free Republic!)
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To: onyx; dalereed
I'm surprised a long time freeper posted such a comment. Just what DU, Kos and MoveOn lurkers love to see...full freeper imbecility on display.
109 posted on 03/14/2007 6:59:54 PM PDT by muleskinner
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To: muleskinner

Good point and I agree.


110 posted on 03/14/2007 7:01:28 PM PDT by onyx (DEFEAT Hillary Clinton, Marxist, student of Saul Alinsky & ally and beneficiary of Soros.)
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To: onyx
onyx, you know i like Rudy, but this is really about more than him.

This is the mindset of people who for some reason want to act like 9/11 either didn't happen, or because it didn't happen in their neighborhood is less important.

I can see NYC from my balcony. Every night I pray for peace and the city. I am close enough that fallout would hit me.

It is a remarkable sight to behold, and I hate to see posts from people who don't have a clue!

111 posted on 03/14/2007 7:02:18 PM PDT by Repub4bush (FWF.....Speechless!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
I know that I and many fiscal conservatives are tired of being used by the social conservatives. We are told that if we pander to you and go along with someone who passes your litmus tests - that we will also get smaller government. But it never happens. Duncan Hunter who is so popular among social conservatives here is NOT a fiscal conservative. And as you list what matters to you - it is so clear that limited government is NOT among them.

You respond:I would rather have a fiscally-liberal Republican than a social-liberal Republican.

What the...? I'm sure you would - but I would not. I am sick of being used by the social conservatives who, it seems, could care less about limited government.

112 posted on 03/14/2007 7:02:47 PM PDT by Sunsong
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To: Repub4bush
Southern manners be damned when you slam a horrible tragedy!

Where did I criticize 9/11?

113 posted on 03/14/2007 7:02:54 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Good night Chesty, wherever you are!)
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To: Reagan Man
But his support of Giuliani shouldn't be confused with the issues relevant to conservatives. I then go on to list those issues that are relevant to conservatives. . It goes beyond one or two issues and has nothing to do with Ronald Reagan.

Okay. So you're backtracking from your statement that anyone who is conservative, doesn't suppor the assault weapons ban.

You RudyLoons are desperate.

True, I'm shaking in my boots, with Rudy's poll numbers.




114 posted on 03/14/2007 7:04:34 PM PDT by LtdGovt ("Where government moves in, community retreats and civil society disintegrates" -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

My comments are related to the post that called Rudy "human garbage" just like his city.

I don't have a problem with most posts, actually -- even spam (used by all sides). What I dislike is personal disrespect, which is usually the province of only a few posters.


115 posted on 03/14/2007 7:05:01 PM PDT by You Dirty Rats (I Love Free Republic!)
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To: Sunsong
Limited government is a high priority of mine. I've been perhaps the only FReeper openly sounding the alarm on entitlement programs and the size & scope of the federal government. None of the Republican candidates with the possible exception of Ron Paul are even addressing this.

But Ron Paul is also a social conservative too. A President who believes that unborn fetusus should be killed right up to the point of birth, and that the 2nd Amendment is for duck hunting simply has no credibility and cannot be trusted to lead on other issues, including fiscal issues, as well.

116 posted on 03/14/2007 7:08:23 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Good night Chesty, wherever you are!)
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To: LtdGovt

Those polls don't mean squat.


117 posted on 03/14/2007 7:09:16 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Good night Chesty, wherever you are!)
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To: You Dirty Rats
I know that feeling and i was here. I went to Union Park and balled my eyes out on Mon. after 9/11.

We had been in the city a few days after 9/11 to take the dog food, but this park was so sad and inspiring! The American Airlines crews were there having a pray vigil for their fallen friends.,p>As a preface to this, My brother died in an accident while on duty 8/7. He was a narc and the head of the bomb squad in Guilford county NC. My parents found a wanted poster of Osama the evening of 9/11.

They told me about it the next day, when i called home.

118 posted on 03/14/2007 7:09:17 PM PDT by Repub4bush (FWF.....Speechless!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Those polls don't mean squat.

Since 1972 every Republican candidate that was leading at this point has won the nomination. That doesn't mean Rudy will win it, but to dismiss the polls as meaningless is not very realistic either.

119 posted on 03/14/2007 7:12:55 PM PDT by You Dirty Rats (I Love Free Republic!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I can't imagine someone with your concern for fiscal issues saying that you think that it's better to have a fiscal liberal as president, than a social liberal. Look at how much destruction Bush has wrought over the past 6 years. Now imagine the same 6 years, but with a fiscally conservative social liberal as President.


120 posted on 03/14/2007 7:13:02 PM PDT by LtdGovt ("Where government moves in, community retreats and civil society disintegrates" -Janice Rogers Brown)
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