Posted on 03/12/2007 8:26:01 PM PDT by Trueblackman
The Great Disconnect between the Republican Party and the Conservative Base
The Republican Party better get its act together like yesterday and realize that without its Conservative base, that it will be left to wonder in the wilderness for many more years to come.
Republicans in Congress are now back in the minority after 12 years of majorities granted to them by the base who envisioned the death of big government agencies like the Departments of Education and Energy with control of the purse strings from 1994-2006 and in 2000 with the election of George W. Bush the base demanded the unabated end of the Clinton Era Tactics of manipulation federal government numbers and phony government surpluses.
Conservatives felt that Bush and company would govern like Conservatives, but after 6 years the base saw no victories as the federal government grew bigger under Bush with “No Child Left Behind” and “Medicare Part D.” Bush refused to fight for our most Conservatives Nominees allowing them to be blocked for years on end by a minority within the minority Democrats Caucus in the Senate. Bush’s “new tone” in Washington DC amounted to the abandonment of his Conservative Principals within 6 months of his first term.
Liberal Republicans like John McCain were allowed to cut deals behind close doors on Judicial Nominees, Taxes and Immigration, while the Conservatives in the Senate seem dumbfounded and refused to stop this self-proclaimed maverick and his band of merry sellouts. McCain seems to take joy in stabbing the base in the back every chance he gets, gleefully going on MSNBC to be praised by Chris Matthews, because he feels that he is somehow owed the Presidency and blames the base for his 2000 Primary defeats to George W. Bush. Now McCain wants to be the 2008 Nominee, “Sorry John, but paybacks are a bi*ch” and I will not vote for what amounts to the Republican Party’s Manchurian Candidate.
The House Managers became fat, dumb and happy and governed more like Republicrats than Conservatives and they thought that the fears of impeachment, higher taxes and liberal control of the House would be enough to rally the base to their banner again in 2006, but this time their rally cries fell on deaf ears and their majorities were lost.
The Republican Party still refuses to learn from 2006’s mid-term election defection by the base, Republicans need to realize that they live and die by the votes of the base and that any candidate that does not appeal to the base will not receive our votes. It is better to lose to a Democrat, than to elect a CINO (Conservative In Name Only).
Now as we enter the 2008 Presidential Race we have Northern Eastern Republicans like Rudy Giuliani and Mitt Romney trying to sell themselves to the base as having Conservative Credentials, but when one looks at their records and how they have governed, it has been anything but Conservative, yet there are those in the Republican Party who are trying to sell Giuliani as our best bet in 2008. The only difference in a Liberal Rudy Giuliani and Liberal Hillary Clinton is the fact of which bathrooms they select to use and there are some who are willing to even question that.
As a Conservative, I would rather back a Conservative Republican Candidate and see him lose the Presidential Election on principal than back a Liberal Republican IN Name Only like Rudy Giuliani, Mitt Romney and John McCain, who will end up stabbing me in the back anyway and govern himself by poll and focus groups.
The base would rather lose on principals than win out of convenience and the leaders of the Republican Party better start realizing that.
I did and all are fine with me. Now let us look at the conservatives who are running, Ron Paul, Brownback, maybe gingrich, maybe tancredo, hunter, etc. and why are they all polling at less than 5%.
I m glad you mentioned Saul Alinsky.
>>Conservatives need to figure out where we go from here.
Start with a few Self-Evident Truths...
http://usinfo.state.gov/products/pubs/hrintro/declare.htm
No, this is only part of the picture, not the bottom line. There are battles at home to be fought, as well, and the GOP with Bush as their leader have failed miserably on this front the past several years. If we are being destroyed from within, what difference does it make that we are fighting the good fight in the WOT? If the GOP doesn't have the ability to pay closer attention to domestic policy and the burgeoning size of governement, it won't matter a whit who is elected in 2008. Frankly, a party that doesn't have the versatility or flexibility to focus on more than one issue doesn't deserve to govern. But then they haven't been called the "Stupid Party" for nothing.
The point from my perspective is that if the state replaces the family, we are doomed anyway. As the state replaces the family, all of our values melt away. When they do, we are doomed to the muslim invasion, just like Europe is now. We won't have the guts to fight this thing in 15 years if we keep electing Republicans who massively expand the size of government.
Wow. He's already to the right of Bush.
Newt didn't quit.
Here's something I never understood. Conservatives are the base, so why don't we demand the leadership of the GOP?
This has always puzzled me....
But what if Rudy wins the nomination? Would Hillorat be better on abortion? (if two candidates have the same position on an issue, wouldn`t it be logical to base your vote on another issue like the WAR or TAXES?)
I'd vote for Romney, although I don't think he's the best chose. I even like certain things about Ruddy, but we have to take him as a whole.We won 2004 based off black american religious votes in Ohio. A demographic that historical hasn't voted high for Republicans.
So we can't piss off the religious part of our party, nor any important part of conservativism. We need to equally apply most if not all the ideals forward, with the most viable candiate.
No, even though those issues and others are important to me, as soon as the republican party caves on the right to life, they cede the moral high ground. And in all probability, they will even cease to be a viable party. I really don't want that to happen, so I hope that we won't even be faced with that problem after the primaries. There are alot of folks out there who won't vote for a pro abortion candidate.
Now, how on earth did you ascertain that I am rooting for Hillary from what I said? C'mon FairOpinion; you are capable of a much better dialogue than that type of silliness.
You want to see the Republicans defeated.
Who do you think is going to defeat them, except the Democrats?
Didn't you get the memo? Anyone who is not on board with the RINO's is the real RINO.
I like your tone and your efforts to persuade, rather than insult people. But we need to come together behind someone who represents our party platform. Rudy opposes most of our traditional GOP platform that we've supported for the last thirty years.
On those same issues, they've been given to you ad infinitum, Rudy agrees with the Democrats. Not with us. He is a big city, liberal Republican. The people you disagree with here(and we are not your enemies) are not going to vote for the barely lesser of two evils this time.
I really hope Fred Thompson gets in. I want someone I can enthusiastically support.
..Republicans will cease to be a political Party.......
That`s what You really want, isn`t it? Doesn`t matter what the Rats would do, you could care less about the consequence's of destroying the only party that can beat the Democrats. Please answer a few questions. Do you think there will be less abortions with Hilloat as President? Do you think that Hillorat will appoint people like Justice Thomas and Scalia to the Supremes? Please, don`t humiliate yourself by saying that there isn`t any difference between Rudy and Hillorat on this.the pro- death crowd will back her in the election which will earn them a seat at Hillorats table.
This is the standard "Real Conservative" pitch. I'm a real conservative because Presidents should cut spending. Really? Reagan didn't cut spending; spending increased over his term. Neither did Bush I. Neither did Nixon.
So now we have GW, and are SHOCKED, SHOCKED that spending was not cut. The precedents for doind so are few and far between. This suggests that we think (a rare practice for a partisan), as to what are the dynamics that permit icnreased spending to happen. Rather than constantly moaning, critics of spending need to invest copious time and effort about how to alter the dynamics of washington and the sentiments of the people to create the conditions for cutting spending in a way that would not be suicidal for either party. Until they do that, their perpetual whine matters little to me.
And then what?
Sounds like a self-defeating strategy to me.
On the Factor his republican presidential poll, McCain was dead last and Newt Gingrich was first. Are true Christian conservatives going to elect a man to admitting to cheating on his wife and marrying a woman 20 years his junior? I do not care but some people esp. in the Bible belt may.
"As a Conservative, I would rather back a Conservative Republican Candidate and see him lose the Presidential Election on principle"
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