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What is the most convoluted, opaque, impenetrable book you ever read?
Blind Eye Jones

Posted on 03/09/2007 11:22:35 PM PST by Blind Eye Jones

What is the most convoluted, opaque, impenetrable book you ever read?


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To: Jhensy

Blum here alludes to the death of his "creator" -- his father -- who dies on the toilet in a shabby Green outhouse while masturbating.


521 posted on 03/11/2007 9:23:42 AM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: cornelis

Hegel is quite clear. His classes were the most popular, which annoyed Schopenhauer considerably.


522 posted on 03/11/2007 9:37:22 AM PDT by RightWhale (300 miles north of Big Wild Life)
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To: RightWhale

Like Dr. Suess.


523 posted on 03/11/2007 9:51:28 AM PDT by cornelis
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To: cornelis

Hegel at least took the trouble to write a philosophy of the state, which while it was off the mark here and there as usual is also something still needed. The state is poorly understood so that even by Conservatives the high mark seems to be Marx. Somebody of American Conservative mind could write a theory of the state and be alone in the modern genre.


524 posted on 03/11/2007 9:57:22 AM PDT by RightWhale (300 miles north of Big Wild Life)
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To: RightWhale; x

I think such a book would truly be inscrutable, certainly opaque, and by all means impenetrable. Perhaps we are unclear about what it means to belong to the modern genre.

BTW, Ortega was aware that the popularity of the modern is the high irony of our age. The people hang their art and claim the circle.

Inscrutability is the special incense of a hierophant.


525 posted on 03/11/2007 11:00:01 AM PDT by cornelis
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To: AnotherUnixGeek
Foucault's Pendulum

Absolutely right on. This book makes no sense.

526 posted on 03/11/2007 11:02:34 AM PDT by ExtremeUnction
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To: Blind Eye Jones

Carlos Casteneda, anyone?


527 posted on 03/11/2007 11:20:58 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: 6323cd
Tristram Shandy by Laurence Sterne.

I've never read this but for some reason it was my father's favorite book. He didn't seem to be a fan of the impenetrable. I'll have to check it out sometime.

528 posted on 03/11/2007 11:29:35 AM PDT by wideminded
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To: WestVirginiaRebel
I'd add The Mysterious Stranger, in fact most of Sam Clemens' later fiction which bordered on science fiction.

Yea, Sam got kind of bitter towards the end of his life. Started questioning God and all. Lost his faith. But, some of that stuff is pretty good nonetheless. Pick up a little paperback called "Letters From The Earth". Some good stuff there. Funny too. Sarcastic, cynical. You get the full boat of the later Clemens.

529 posted on 03/11/2007 11:34:53 AM PDT by mc5cents (Show me just what Mohammd brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman)
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To: Blind Eye Jones
The Witching Hour by Anne Rice.

Mr. Alouette says: Bleak House by Charles Dickens.

530 posted on 03/11/2007 11:38:06 AM PDT by Alouette (Learned Mother of Zion)
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To: Tijeras_Slim
Jeez, I thought I was the only guy who remembered that one.

My mind is a cesspit, from which no useless knowledge escapes.

531 posted on 03/11/2007 1:33:28 PM PDT by LexBaird (98% satisfaction guaranteed. There's just no pleasing some people.)
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To: cornelis

Spencer wrote on the state, mostly polemics on issues of the day, but didn't publish a theory. He should be a patron saint of Conservatives. The only recent theory of the state was written over a century ago, and while it was a good development as far as it went, it was English, somewhat Liberal, and not American. There is no American Conservative theory of the state, and if someone were to produce one now it would indeed be abstruse since all the basic language would have to be technically defined. Nevertheless, we are adrift without a rudder and have been since 1945. America--country of 300 million truckdrivers and one philosopher; the philosopher died several years ago.


532 posted on 03/11/2007 1:45:00 PM PDT by RightWhale (300 miles north of Big Wild Life)
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To: LexBaird

My wife says I have a mind like a lint-trap.


533 posted on 03/11/2007 2:26:49 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Allegra
Uh...yeah, I got that part.

LOL, Allegra!!! You are always good at pointing out the DUH! quotient!!

534 posted on 03/11/2007 2:35:40 PM PDT by paulat (I'd rather spend my vote on someone who CAN ACTUALLY BE ELECTED)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

I'm with you on "Dhalgren" - I had been contemptuous of space opera in SF, but after attempting the 800+ pages of that ridiculous nonsense, all that was needed to persuade me to see "Star Wars" when it came out 2 years later was a comment by a friend that it was "the anti-Dhalgren".


535 posted on 03/11/2007 3:24:58 PM PDT by Heatseeker
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To: Toskrin
I always liked the ending of Ulysses

Yes, the entire final chapter when Molly is on that lyrical riff is so evocative of her love for Leopold, even though she wasn't totally faithful to him.

536 posted on 03/11/2007 7:21:46 PM PDT by 6323cd ("It is prohibited to make use of such emotional signs in a cellphone!")
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To: Pietro

Any book is good mental exercise, and that one was a marathon.


537 posted on 03/11/2007 8:12:35 PM PDT by P.O.E.
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To: Blind Eye Jones
An avid reader, I've run across many many many dozens if not HUNDREDS of books that I've tossed aside. Now that I'm under pressure to come up with a title (!!), this is what sprang to mind first:

and

I'll be back as more 'badbooks' come to mind.

538 posted on 03/12/2007 12:58:52 PM PDT by cgk (I am emboldened by my looks to say things Republican men wouldn’t. - Ann Coulter)
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To: Richard Kimball
The Alice books are a mixture of his fascination with magic tricks, mathematics, logic, and his sexual attraction for young girls. As such, it's not surprising you found it impenetrable, since it's doubtful you share Mr. Carroll's interests, if you get my drift.

And it explains why it's the Liberal's Bible. ;-)

539 posted on 03/13/2007 7:43:27 AM PDT by EndWelfareToday (Live free and keep what you earn. - Tancredo or Hunter)
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To: Xenalyte
What was the first book you threw against the wall and hollered, "No way in hell am I ever picking up that thing again!"

The Firm by John Grisham. I actually threw it out of my car window to an ignominous fate in the ditch. "I will yell 'tripe' whenever tripe is served."

540 posted on 03/13/2007 11:40:47 AM PDT by 6323cd ("It is prohibited to make use of such emotional signs in a cellphone!")
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