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What is the most convoluted, opaque, impenetrable book you ever read?
Blind Eye Jones

Posted on 03/09/2007 11:22:35 PM PST by Blind Eye Jones

What is the most convoluted, opaque, impenetrable book you ever read?


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To: dfwgator

Great episode.

(Go Gators!)


421 posted on 03/10/2007 4:04:24 PM PST by Mojave
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To: RightWhale; x; Blind Eye Jones
He's but a runner-up to Hegel. Here's what Hayek said about Hegel:
Concerning him I have always felt, not only what his greatest British admirer said, that his philosophy was "a scrutiny of thought so profound that it was for the most part unintelligible," but also what John Stuart Mill experienced, who "found by actual experience . . . that conversancy with him tends to deprave one's intellect."
Eric Voegelin calls him a sorcerer and says,
The author of the Phänomenologie suffers so badly from the existential conflict between his two Selfs that it almost makes no sense to ask what Hegel really meant . . .The "death of God," finally, is unintelligible without the "death of Hegel" . . . by way of a postscript: The death of God is a dangerous plaything for epigonic intellectuals and confused theologians . . . Hegel's obsession was power.

422 posted on 03/10/2007 4:07:43 PM PST by cornelis
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To: Xenalyte
I swear, when I found out in Book 2 that Benjy was a 'tard and Faulkner didn't have the grace to inform us earlier, I was FURIOUS.

Oh, I could deal with that. But WTH was up with having two different characters with the same name? I was a hero in my lit class when I figured that out.

423 posted on 03/10/2007 4:16:07 PM PST by Dianna
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To: All
A Theory of Justice. John Rawls. I'm about a chapter in. It's not convoluted; just very, very dull. I'm starting to wonder how many of his admirers have actually finished his books.
424 posted on 03/10/2007 4:21:17 PM PST by Yardstick
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To: zadox
A Night of Serious Drinking

Damn I don't need no book for that....

425 posted on 03/10/2007 4:23:57 PM PST by Gone_Postal (Communism works only in Heaven, where they don’t need it, and in Hell, where they’ve already got it.)
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To: Blind Eye Jones

A Cat in the Hat,,,,Dr. Suess


426 posted on 03/10/2007 4:25:06 PM PST by Gone_Postal (Communism works only in Heaven, where they don’t need it, and in Hell, where they’ve already got it.)
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To: Blind Eye Jones
I'd like to say Finnegans Wake, but I've never been able to get past a dozen or so pages so I really can't say I've ever read it.

So maybe Decline of the West by Oswald Spengler.

427 posted on 03/10/2007 4:28:03 PM PST by JCEccles
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To: JCEccles
No one has mentioned Walden? My husband loved it, I hated it.

Dh's contribution is Violin by Ann Rice.

428 posted on 03/10/2007 4:31:55 PM PST by Dianna
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To: Misterioso
How does one read an unpenetrable book?

The same way one eats an indigestible meal.

429 posted on 03/10/2007 4:32:41 PM PST by JCEccles
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To: Blind Eye Jones

Anything by Thomas Pyncheon, James Joyce...


430 posted on 03/10/2007 4:32:56 PM PST by Mamzelle
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To: Irish Rose

Why the Revelation of John was canonized I cannot figure out.

For great, gripping apocalyptic literature, the Hebrew books win, hands down. Daniel (and the apocryphal additions to it), in particular, is just great writing. Revelation is, accordingly, "impenetrable".


431 posted on 03/10/2007 4:35:44 PM PST by IslandJeff (if you marginalize religion, only the marginalized will have religion. -Mark Steyn)
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To: Blind Eye Jones

I make it a point to read at least one "classic novel" every year.

Two years back I picked up a copy of Joseph Heller's "Catch 22". I can't begin to tell you how stupid and redundant the book was (I suppose this was an artistic literary device).

I struggled to finish it, which is good because now I can say that I read "Catch 22" and it sucks.


432 posted on 03/10/2007 4:36:49 PM PST by incredulous joe ("Silence is golden,...but duct tape is silver." -- anon)
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To: dinoparty
Meditations on the Tarot (Anonymous)

I'm reading it now and enjoying it. I tried a few months ago and just glanced off of it. What's different this time is that I'm not reading it in any particular order. I just flip through the pages and if something catches my eye I go from there. This approach has worked much better. I've now read three or four of the Arcana and my appetite is whetted for more.

Another good trick might be to read this blog for a month or so as a primer.

433 posted on 03/10/2007 4:36:52 PM PST by Yardstick
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To: Blind Eye Jones
Gravity's Rainbow by Thomas Pynchon. I remember something about bananas, but that's about it. A ridiculous book.

On the other hand, I love Faulkner. Probably because I started with the relatively linear Light in August and some of his excellent short stories. Faulkner can be a tough read - he sometimes jumps 40 years and changes narrators midsentence, but he generally leaves clues to help the reader keep up.

434 posted on 03/10/2007 4:41:52 PM PST by Toskrin (It didn't seem nostalgic when I was doing it)
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To: Allegra

"The Lamb's Supper" by Dr. Scott Hahn is one of the best reads on Apocalypse/Revelation.


435 posted on 03/10/2007 4:45:48 PM PST by incredulous joe ("Silence is golden,...but duct tape is silver." -- anon)
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To: Blind Eye Jones

I forgot "Skinny Legs and All " by Tom Robbins.

I didn't finish it.


436 posted on 03/10/2007 4:52:07 PM PST by incredulous joe ("Silence is golden,...but duct tape is silver." -- anon)
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To: Eepsy

Rereading Silas Marner for pleasure?

Eepsy, forgive me, but you are not someone I'd hang out with.


437 posted on 03/10/2007 4:54:25 PM PST by wildbill
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To: Gorzaloon; arthurus
It is the only book I ever read that truly made me feel the time and place and the action.

Name of the Rose and, of all things, War of the Worlds do that for me.

438 posted on 03/10/2007 4:57:00 PM PST by null and void ("If you have always done it that way, it is probably wrong." - Charles F. Kettering)
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To: Blind Eye Jones
The binder full of material about the iPledge Program for obtaining Accutane.
439 posted on 03/10/2007 5:06:33 PM PST by condi2008
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To: Blind Eye Jones
The most convoluted book that I enjoyed was Pale Fire by Vladimir Nabokov. It starts off as one thing, takes a turn in the middle, and ends up somewhere else entirely. Through the book, you are solving a mystery, and the mystery is what the book is about.

The movie The Usual Suspects gives a bit of the same feel at the end.

440 posted on 03/10/2007 5:09:36 PM PST by Toskrin (It didn't seem nostalgic when I was doing it)
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