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What is the most convoluted, opaque, impenetrable book you ever read?
Blind Eye Jones

Posted on 03/09/2007 11:22:35 PM PST by Blind Eye Jones

What is the most convoluted, opaque, impenetrable book you ever read?


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To: reg45
After noting that many of these books were (and still are) required reading in humanities classes in college, I am overjoyed that I majored in chemistry - PChem seems simple in comparison.

Riveting and breathtaking, even!

241 posted on 03/10/2007 6:59:01 AM PST by Gorzaloon (Global Warming: A New Kind Of Scientology for the Rest Of Us.)
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To: fnord

I like all of Neal Stephenson, although the Baroque Cycle was a little too long... especially like Cryptonomicon, Diamond Age (title?), Snowcrash.


242 posted on 03/10/2007 7:01:31 AM PST by keeper53 ( "He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose." Jim Elliot)
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To: Gorzaloon

No, no, no... In King James I's time, that referred to what we term the "heart".


243 posted on 03/10/2007 7:02:06 AM PST by 6323cd ("It is prohibited to make use of such emotional signs in a cellphone!")
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

I just started that book and I was hoping it would get better. I guess not!


244 posted on 03/10/2007 7:02:26 AM PST by TX Bluebonnet
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To: keeper53

It's been about 15 years since I last had a go at it... maybe I should try it again...


245 posted on 03/10/2007 7:03:27 AM PST by 6323cd ("It is prohibited to make use of such emotional signs in a cellphone!")
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To: 6323cd
Tristram Shandy by Laurence Sterne. It's heartbreaking, because 18th-Century England is one of my favorite periods of history, and I wanted so much to enjoy the book, but I simply can't make heads or tails of it. I've tried reading it about a dozen times, but can't get past Chapter 2.

Shame on you. C.S. Lewis called it a "gossipy, formless book which can be read anywhere" (i.e. open it to any random page and start reading) and used to read it while eating meals.

Cheers!

246 posted on 03/10/2007 7:04:12 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: ReignOfError
It took a while to get through The Brothers Karamazov but it was worth it. It's easily one the best books I've ever read, if not the best.
247 posted on 03/10/2007 7:07:48 AM PST by SoDak
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To: 6323cd

It did seem interesting as far as being ground-breaking (blank pages, pictures, puzzles, etc.).
Let me know how it goes!

;)


248 posted on 03/10/2007 7:08:23 AM PST by keeper53 ( "He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose." Jim Elliot)
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To: SoDak

It took a while to get through The Brothers Karamazov but it was worth it. It's easily one the best books I've ever read, if not the best.



Amen to that!


249 posted on 03/10/2007 7:09:42 AM PST by keeper53 ( "He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose." Jim Elliot)
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To: fnord


Pirsig's Pursuit of Quality is an expansion on my father's admonition to "never force things".

While my father used the phrase in the mechanical/engineering context, it's essence can be found on many levels.

Ah yes - Science Fiction

I would argue, as I often do, that Neuromancer is more prophesy than SF.

Remember that Gibson wrote this work in 1984.

I am not sure what your interests were in that time frame but I had no vision of surfing the Internet.

Gibson coined the term Cyberspace, and foretold a world that you and I inhabit this morning.

Prophesy.

I recommend this work to everyone who spends any time out on this Matrix that links us all.

Regards


250 posted on 03/10/2007 7:10:39 AM PST by Neuromancer
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To: Blind Eye Jones

Anything--and I do mean anything--by Noam Chomsky.


251 posted on 03/10/2007 7:12:18 AM PST by giotto
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To: StarfireIV

My favorite Nietzsche quote:

"One must have chaos in one's life
in order to give birth to a dancing star"


252 posted on 03/10/2007 7:15:35 AM PST by TET1968 (SI MINOR PLUS EST ERGO NIHIL SUNT OMNIA)
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To: Blind Eye Jones

Lord Jim by Joseph Conrad. Totally incomprehensible.


253 posted on 03/10/2007 7:18:12 AM PST by brightstar
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To: Blind Eye Jones
This reminds me of some of the readings I had to do for my Philosophy requirement in college:
Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket Kierkegard's Fear and Trembling comes to mind. We had to read 1 chapter and I had to totally rely on my class notes as the book might as well have been written in Greek.
254 posted on 03/10/2007 7:20:20 AM PST by TX Bluebonnet
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To: Blind Eye Jones
As a child - "Dune." It took me 5 attempts to get over the "hump" and get interested in the story.

As an adult - "Atlas Shrugged." I've already tried 10 times, and can't get interested enough to get past the first chapter.

255 posted on 03/10/2007 7:20:20 AM PST by Washi (Support the country you live in, or go live in the country you support.)
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To: saganite
I gave Kant's Critique of Pure Reason a shot. It was totally impenetrable.

The word A Priori comes to mind when you mentioned Kant's Crituqe of Pure Reason.

256 posted on 03/10/2007 7:24:31 AM PST by Sawdring
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While reading through many posts, some people have also listed books that they just found really boring. So I'll add one here too.

"Babbit," by Sinclair Lewis. Mind-numbingly boring!

Mark


257 posted on 03/10/2007 7:27:01 AM PST by MarkL (When Kaylee says "No power in the `verse can stop me," it's cute. When River says it, it's scary!)
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To: ARE SOLE

There was a Motorola book, kind of a users guide, to a small microcontroller that had a DSP embedded. Anyway the book started out normally but as it went on it got more and more unreadable, not due to technical stuff but just incomprehensible english until at the end it was almost useless. It was like the guy was getting drunk as he wrote it. I leared later that the guy who started it was moved off the project and someone else completed the book (Motorola is like that). The guy who finished it must have been a hurry to move on to something else or perhaps he botched it all up as a way to cover up his technical incompetence.


258 posted on 03/10/2007 7:27:08 AM PST by bkepley
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To: Blind Eye Jones
What is the most convoluted, opaque, impenetrable book you ever read?

The Tibetan or Egyptian Book of the Dead?
259 posted on 03/10/2007 7:31:08 AM PST by aruanan
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To: Allegra
Hi, Allegra:


I LOVE Tom Wolfe!

I still have my copy of "Radical Chic And Mau-Mauing The Flak Catchers" from High School. I crack it open every year or so, just to remind me that there is no bottom to the Left's slimy skeeviness.

"The Tangerine Metal Flake Streamlined Baby" is very good too, but I think his best work is "The Right Stuff".


Jack.
260 posted on 03/10/2007 7:36:41 AM PST by Jack Deth (Knight Errant and Resident FReeper Kitty Poem /Haiku Guy)
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