"After all, we conservatives are above such things."
Posted on 03/09/2007 11:12:02 AM PST by nancyvideo
One of the major differences between liberals and conservatives is that liberals are much more susceptible to group think. Most on the left are content to accept the prevailing leftist talking points as their own without questioning any of the intellectual underpinnings of said argument. (Think global warming..)
Conservatives, on the other hand, are more likely to rely on the substance and facts of a debate instead of drawing their conclusions based on 'consensus' and 'feelings'. At least that used to be so.
Enter Ann Coulter.
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That's a OK!!! Just don't want anyone thinking I was AGAINST freedom of speech!
sKEdwards is a faggot. He is definitely not GAY - that means full of sweetness and light, by the way, not homosexual. Being homosexual, though, is most certainly QUEER - and will always be so to those of us who have an understanding of biology and survival.
Whether you have surrendered the language or not, do not count me in. Ann has not surrendered the language, either. FAGGOT has throughout MY lifetime meant wimpy... and it is certainly true that many homosexuals have exhibited wimpy behavior. THAT is why and how so many homosexuals have been come to portrayed as faggots - becaues they were wimpy - and some like you with no commprehension of history no longer realize the meaning ascribed to it. You probably think the only meaning for the word "cool" is that ascribed to it by the hippies. You probably believe using the word "gay" means only "homosexual". I chuckle that "faggot" offends your sensitivities. I am not sensitive about that, nor will I be sensitive about queer behavior.
Like Ann, I welcome homosexuals to vote Republican and to support Republican causes. I do not support their queer agenda to demean marriage and other cornerstones of society.
I likewise refuse to have the thought police put me on the defensive about my well-founded traditions whether they be "God - Family - Country" - and threaten to send me to rehab for my beliefs and all the peripheral attitudes that have to do with those beliefs and traditions.
Bravo Ann!
I hope you caught post#215... the attitude you espouse has gotten us into the situation we traditional conservatives now find ourselves in.
You apparently did not watch or listen to Ann's remarks, but instead have succumbed to the FRAUDcasters characterization of what she said.
I encourage you to listen to what she actually said... There's a link in POST#197.
She's vulgar and showy.
What she actually said has nothing much to do with my observations. And I was watching CPAC that day, so I did see her entire speech.
"Your attempts to "explain" Ann's remark is pathetic. So tha's a good reason to call someone a faggot? geesh And since we don't know have one iota of proof that John Edwards is a practicing homosexual, it's just a damn lie!"
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You really don't belong in this discussion.
It is apparent from the quote of yours above that you STILL haven't even tried to listen to WHAT ANN SAID! You seriously owe it to yourself.
Until you do so, I'm simply going to consider you just as much of a maroon as the Demodogs who accept the FRAUDcasters' characterization of Republicans as gospel.
Get the facts, young man. It's the "conservative" thing to do.
I am asking this in good faith, NOT trying to stir ANYTHING. ok?
My question is: What if Hillary said the SAME THING about one of our people running? Would we be GENEROUS to her????? (I think we all automatically in our head just said "nope".)
Why do you think Barrack Obama is soaring ? He's smart, and he is "offering hope" and that is what the people are looking for. (no I do not plan on voting for him.)Why do you think Pres. Bush was elected ? He offered hope and was a decent man. People are sick of mean spiritedness's, I believe.
This "GOTCHA" has to stop. And we have to expect more CLASS than what Coulter said. There is NO excuse for it. Did she think she would be a "hit" ??? or did she NEED attention ?
"After all, we conservatives are above such things."
"I also don't believe "we" have to make unfounded accusations with our "words." There's plenty of dirt on a guy like Edwards without having to stoop to that."
What stooping? He's a faggoty little wuss, and it's a national disgrace that he's even in public life.
"Your attempts to "explain" Ann's remark is pathetic."
I'm not explaining anything. I'm telling you that you're wrongheaded for disapproving of her remark.
"So tha's a good reason to call someone a faggot?"
Since when do we have to have good reasons for things like that? What do you want, a Federal Bureau of Levity to license jokes?
"And since we don't know have one iota of proof that John Edwards is a practicing homosexual"
We have already established the irrelevance of that argument, so you really ought to retire it.
"That kind of joke is sick"
See? Utterly wrongheaded.
"but Ann knew what she was doing."
Yeah, she was standing up to the pervofascist would-be dictators and telling them that she's not intimidated.
"Oh, and if you don't see the difference between calling someone arrogant and calling someone a faggot, you need to think about it."
No, if you think calling someone a faggot is that big a deal, you need to think. If you think there's something wrong with speech that expresses disapproval of loathsome perversions, you need to get out of America.
"Well I'm not obsessed with homosexuals"
Oh, I see: recognizing the threat to Civilization represented by pervofascist activists is actually just being "obsessed with homosexuals." Very nice job of impeaching the character of anyone who would like to keep homo erectus out of puerile recti.
"Do you really think that the "God Hates Fags" group is something conservatives should emulate?"
Ah, the old false dichotomy ploy. "Cave in to every pervofascist demand, or you're just like those people."
Nonsnse. God doesn't hate fags, and neither do I. I'm not sure that God hates even Satan, but I am confident that Satan is responsible for SSAD, and that God wants us to do what we can to help the victims and prevent its spread...and not to enable, encourage, and even celebrate it as something wonderful.
"My question is: What if Hillary said the SAME THING about one of our people running? Would we be GENEROUS to her????? (I think we all automatically in our head just said "nope".)"
Not at all. The reaction would be entirely different.
"Why do you think Barrack Obama is soaring ? He's smart"
Why is everybody so eager to say that demonrats are "smart." They used to call Beelzebubba's consort "the smartest woman alive." Obama has an IQ of 100, maybe 110.
"and he is "offering hope" and that is what the people are looking for."
The reason people are deceived by the false hope Hussein Obama offers, consisting as it does entirely of the intellectually bankrupt and failed nostrums of the left, is that those of us who oppose the left have been far too timid in calling a spade a spade.
"People are sick of mean spiritedness's, I believe."
That may be, but it's irrelevant. It might hurt a *candidate* to be perceived as mean-spirited, but the rest of us have got to do better at making people understand what a pack of vile scumbags the demonrats really are.
People said a lot of bad things about Jeffrey Dahmer. Was that mean-spirited? They were unkind to Ted Bundy and Pol Pot. Was that mean-spirited? When you are faced with pure evil, reeking with the stench of Satan, anything civil you say is a lie.
"This "GOTCHA" has to stop."
Road apples. The left has been killing us with it since Nixon and Kennedy were legislators. For all those decades, we have ceded that battle to them, and as a result the few score thousands on 1950's lunatic fringe have grown to nearly half the electorate...and they weren't even telling the truth, for the most part.
We have got to escalate the "gotcha" by Avogadro's number of orders of magnitude. Making sure the gotcha is true, we have got to get the truth out.
Like this business with the Nevada debates and Fox. There are a lot of people in the US so deluded as to think the left has a point there. Why? Because Republicans have behaved as you advocate. That is a mistake. A dreadful and ultimately fatal mistake.
The demonrats are not shy about calling the Republicans evil, corrupt, or stupid...even though they're lying. And you say we shouldn't call the demonrats evil and corrupt, even though it's true? That's lunacy.
"And we have to expect more CLASS than what Coulter said."
Screw that. We have to save civilization.
Further, the pervofascist would-be tyrants are some of our primary enemies, which means we have to bring back pejorative terms for SSAD.
"There is NO excuse for it."
Doing the right thing needs no excuse, and opposing the lexicological tyranny of the left is always the right thing to do.
I have seen and listened to what she said. You can make a John Kerry excuse for her if you want, but it was very clear that she was saying she couldn't talk about Edwards without saying the un-pc word faggot. Play twist the word games all you want, but I'm not playing.
Coulter will get no support from the easily "offended" invertebrates that pass for "conservatives", these days.
>>Ann, who is a satirist, didn't imply that Edwards is homosexual by using the word faggot<<
I guess the word faggot means something other than what everyone knows it means: homosexual.
I stand corrected .
You, like many others, are presuming how Ann would have used the word with regard to Edwards, if she had actually used it rather than saying that the threat of rehabilitation prevented her from it.
I won't lose anything unless I lose my self-respect.
You nailed it, I"m sticking with Ann.
Oh please, I am not timid in the least, I speak my mind quite well, and I don't expect that when I do, I need others to stand behind and defend me for doing it.
Ann decided to throw another 'shock bomb' out there, like she always does, to sell some more books... Fine for her. She's free to do it. And I'm free to say, big whoop, she's paying the price for it, and she knew exactly what she was doing when she did it.
She is without question the Howard Stern of the conservative pundent set, she's a big girl, she knows what she's doing. She wishes to do that, she's welcome to do it, but I, nor anyone else am obligated to defend her boorish behavior simply because she falls under the umbrella of conservative.
Ann does nothing more than follow the same model laid out by tons of others before... madonna, stern, etc etc.. shock and awe, and then sit back and wait for the money to roll in.
She's free to do it, but don't think for one minute that others are obligated to help her out, she's been doing pundentry for a long time, she knows exactly what she's doing, as do I, and she's a big girl, she wants to do that sort of thing, she's welcome to. However to say everyone who is a conservative MUST RALLY TO HER DEFENSE for her behavior is group think mentality that has a better home on the left than it ever will on the right.
Politics today isn't nearly as "vulgar" or "rough" as it was in the 1700's and 1800's. The tenderness with which they are defined as "activists" is best suited to a dilettante. They've not the guts nor the stamina to wage political war against an enemy.
Instead of standing in close ranks (like the enemy Leftists do) and making the statement that while they may not agree with Coulter, they do support her right to speak and to stir the pot with her sarcasm, wit and barbs directed at the liberal elite establishment. As for defenders of Coulter, those weren't the chirps of crickets, they were the little scampering legs of "conservatives" much smaller than she, heading for the Hope-The-Libs-Like-Me Hills.
SerpentDove,
I think you are a very determined and obsessed defender of your point of view, in fact, I forwarded your posts to Media Matters and they would love to hire you. They just have one question, What handle do you post under on Democratic Underground?
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