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Free Republic: glass ant farm for zealots
Globe and Mail ^ | 10/27/06 | IVOR TOSSELL

Posted on 03/08/2007 11:40:55 PM PST by conservative in nyc

The Dixie Chicks have a movie, Shut Up & Sing, coming out today, and, to keep things lively, they're staging a grudge match with the worst site on the Internet, political-rhetoric division.

"The fat chick will only drive traffic to this site," writes one poster to the site.

"The Frenchy Chix can't get a gig in a gay bar in Ithaca," writes another.

Others chime in with more corruptions: Chubby Chicks, Ditsy Twits, Vichy Chicks.

"Yep typical liberals," says someone else. "No character."

This is Free Republic, an exercise in political extremism that, despite being and something of an anthropological train wreck, keeps popping up square in the mainstream.

Most recently, it has resurfaced as a villain in the Dixie Chicks movie, which traces the fallout from lead singer Natalie Maines's infamous 2003 London declaration that she was embarrassed that George W. Bush was, like her, from Texas.

It was a bad time to be anti-war, and Americans are touchy about being criticized on foreign soil at the best of times. The "grassroots" backlash that followed -- orchestrated, in part, by the people at Free Republic, who mobilized their large and largely disgruntled membership -- saw the band savaged in the press and at the box office.

The site is a venerable and storied Web forum for American arch-conservatives. Funded by member donations, it was founded in 1996 as an anti-Clinton grandstand, and soon became a place where members could post news stories and discuss them -- though "discussion" might be the wrong word. More often, it's a kind of pantomime, where the name of the game is to cheer the good guy and boo the bad guy every time he creeps on stage.

Freepers, as the sites denizens are known, are the good guys. The bad guys, according to site founder Jim Robinson, are practitioners of "liberalism, socialism, fascism, pacifism, totalitarianism, anarchism, government enforced atheism, abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, racism," and "wacko environmentalism."

So it is that, day in and day out, Freepers attempt to outdo each other in posting the most pungent, juvenile reactions to stories. Articles containing an opposing viewpoint have the words "BARF ALERT" appended to their titles. Slurs are encouraged. When the first same-sex Canadian soldiers were married last year, the story garnered 73 angry responses, ranging from "Disgusting and despicable" to "I'd resign my commission before performing a ceremony to marry a couple of bone-smugglers" to "Let's see what happens when the Canadian military has an AIDS epidemic on its hands."

It's a hateful place that, if the world was working as it should, would be relegated to the Internet's endless fringes, where conspiracy theorists and pyramid-power believers roam the wasteland. But what's interesting about Free Republic is that, despite having attracted a crowd of the most paranoid, xenophobic and reactionary characters the political landscape has to offer, it continues to find itself in the news.

For instance, during the 2004 U.S. presidential election, it was central to the network of websites that uncovered the forged memos about Bush's Vietnam service that appeared on CBS News and ultimately cost Dan Rather his job. (Paranoia, in this instance, paid off.) Later, and less admirably, Jerome Corsi, the co-author of Unfit for Command -- the hatchet job about John Kerry's military service that crippled his campaign -- was found to be posting racist, sexist diatribes on the site.

And then there was the flap about the Dixie Chicks, spurred on by zealous Freepers. Thanks to their movie, Free Republic is getting another moment in the sun. Not helping things was the band's manager publicly calling Robinson "a coward" for refusing to be interviewed for the film. ("I am jealous of you Mr. Robinson," declared one Freeper in response. "You have been singled out and attacked by America's premier Entertraitors.") These, ladies and gentlemen, are grassroots at work. There are a lot of organizations out there that are in the business of whipping their members into a lather and unleashing them on corporations and politicians alike.

But if Free Republic has a virtue, it's that, unlike other pressure groups, it's transparent: You can see the cogs turning, the anger mounting, the members joining the half-baked me-too condemnations that will surface on tomorrow's news agenda. It's like a glass ant farm for zealots. It's a little stomach-turning, but man, they're diligent little things. It's hard not to stare sometimes.


TOPICS: Canada; Editorial; Free Republic; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: antiamerica; antiamerican; dixiechicks; fr; freerepublic; frinthenews; gaffz; globeandmail; jealous; lauraingraham; shutupandsing; stuckonstupid; tossell; tosser; unamerican; vichychicks
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To: DCPatriot
Nice try prissy. The issue is your disregard for the negative effects of illegals on the Americans who are the crime victims, have seen their ERs closed and their school funds diverted and your posing as a conservative.

btw....'coward'? For not letting the uber-lib metrosexual call the tune? I think not.

361 posted on 03/11/2007 7:20:53 PM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: dsc; wtc911
Tonight Glenn Beck said he thought the illegal alien issue could lead to another civil war.

Well he certainly is an excitable chap, isn't he?

If the FACTS are presented in a straight forward manner the RIGHT will understand the need to put these people on a streamline path to citizenship.

It would be a shame to give these people the impression that we don't want them as fellow Americans. The political fall-out to us will be severe if we don't get proactive in helping these people.

This thread's main article suggests sites like FreeRepublic are hurting that effort.

Of course too many FReepers are too shallow to grasp that concept.

Aren't they, wtc911?

362 posted on 03/11/2007 7:32:04 PM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: Graybeard58
Does anyone here really care what some barking moonbat thinks of F.R.?

The barking moonbats, as you like to call them, now have tangible proof that 9/11 was an inside job.

If you don't accept this as proof, than your just a Rovian Bushbot. (Click on picture for the whole story.)

363 posted on 03/11/2007 7:44:08 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (When I search out the massed wheeling circles of the stars, my feet no longer touch the earth)
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To: wtc911
The issue is your disregard for the negative effects of illegals on the Americans who are the crime victims, have seen their ERs closed and their school funds diverted and your posing as a conservative.

IMO, you've hijacked this thread. THAT'S NOT the issue on this thread.

The issue is that FreeRepublic is an antfarm where a certain segment of Freepers such as yourself are shown in an unfavorable light.

364 posted on 03/11/2007 7:45:07 PM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: conservative in nyc

Funny how FreeRepublic keeps getting "lucky" despite Ivor's insightful and enlightened analysis.

I wonder what critera Ivor would use to identify an articulate commentator who just happened to be full of $h!t?


365 posted on 03/11/2007 7:45:40 PM PDT by papertyger
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To: DCPatriot

"Well he certainly is an excitable chap, isn't he?"

Not particularly.

"If the FACTS are presented in a straight forward manner the RIGHT will understand the need to put these people on a streamline path to citizenship."

If the facts were presented fully and accurately, everyone to the right of Babsie Stweisand would be out on the streets, gun in hand, helping with the roundup.

"It would be a shame to give these people the impression that we don't want them as fellow Americans."

Why the Hell should we want them? It's up to us to decide whom we will allow to immigrate, and why would we pick people with so little respect for our laws?

"The political fall-out to us will be severe if we don't get proactive in helping these people."

1. Political fall-out? That's your big concern?
2. Help them? Who's going to help me? Who's going to help our homeless vets? Who is going to properly fund military and veterans' hospitals? I will help them walk back to the border by shoving a shotgun up their butts, and that's the only help they're getting from me.

"This thread's main article suggests sites like FreeRepublic are hurting that effort."

I certainly hope so.

"Of course too many FReepers are too shallow to grasp that concept."

Or rather, they understand the issue much more fully than you do.


366 posted on 03/11/2007 7:45:41 PM PDT by dsc (There is no safety for honest men except by believing all possible evil of evil men. Edmund Burke)
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To: dsc
Let me put it this way....

Do you think President Reagan would have invited you to lunch after reading your post?

Or would he'd more likely invite me?

Thanks for playing.

367 posted on 03/11/2007 7:52:57 PM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: conservative in nyc

Just another lib angry about free speech. How else are we supposed to give our thoughts expression? Oh, right, we're not supposed to be honest about what makes us angry about the government or society. They just want us to be nice little liberal zombies, afraid to depart from their "enlightened" agenda.


368 posted on 03/11/2007 8:01:39 PM PDT by TheThinker
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To: dsc

You should understand that DCprofiteer has admitted hiring illegals to help run a piece of his business, has said that he starts every day at the local 7-11 where they loiter, has said that his first opinion (before any facts were known) was that Ramos and Campeon were guilty and that the drug smuggler was telling the truth and, most telling, when asked about the victims of illegal criminals, the number of ERs closed because of them, the reduction in school services to American kids because of them, in other words, the impact on Americans who don't profit from them, his response was, "YAWN". No concern whatsoever for the price paid by Americans so that he can save a few bucks.


369 posted on 03/11/2007 9:00:24 PM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

I've seen that before. The guy's a classic barking moonbat.


370 posted on 03/11/2007 9:03:33 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: Graybeard58

Going over to that site kinda makes my skin crawl.

Here you have someone without any apparent engineering background making very coarse analogies and drawing sweeping conclusions. Stop me if you've heard this: extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. You have someone positing a conspiracy of staggeringly vast size and audacity, based on an experiment that would fairly rate a failing grade as a high school science project. He then gets on the internet samizdat machine and declares that NIST, the military, the President and everyone else are engaged in some sort of bizarre conspiracy.

There are words in the English language for people like this. The most flattering that comes to mind is hoaxer, or perhaps troll. Are you sure he's not really a Freeper?

The only people who could possibly find this kind of demonstration "convincing" are those who are already convinced.


371 posted on 03/11/2007 9:30:25 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (When I search out the massed wheeling circles of the stars, my feet no longer touch the earth)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
Are you sure he's not really a Freeper?

If so, it was a brilliant ploy but I kind of think it was just a run of the mill DUer. I've been there enough to know that they are all certifiable nuts.

372 posted on 03/11/2007 9:33:26 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: Graybeard58

If you can't tell the difference between a Freeper disrupter and a True Believer, you may be on the wrong website.


373 posted on 03/11/2007 9:36:06 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (When I search out the massed wheeling circles of the stars, my feet no longer touch the earth)
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To: SunkenCiv
I didn't even know the Dixie B-atches had a movie out. Must have made lots of money. NOT!!!! (sarcasm)
374 posted on 03/11/2007 9:44:48 PM PDT by antiunion person (Shoot all the politicians and let's start over again.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
If you can't tell the difference between a Freeper disrupter and a True Believer, you may be on the wrong website.

I was under the impression that we were having a friendly discussion and then you toss this at me.

Good day.

375 posted on 03/11/2007 9:58:33 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: DCPatriot

"Or would he'd more likely invite me?"

Me. Reagan didn't like people who would sell out the country for a buck.

"Thanks for playing."

I'm certainly not going to thank you for what you're doing to this great nation.


376 posted on 03/11/2007 10:54:54 PM PDT by dsc (There is no safety for honest men except by believing all possible evil of evil men. Edmund Burke)
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To: wtc911

"You should understand that DCprofiteer has admitted hiring illegals to help run a piece of his business, has said that he starts every day at the local 7-11 where they loiter, has said that his first opinion (before any facts were known) was that Ramos and Campeon were guilty and that the drug smuggler was telling the truth and, most telling, when asked about the victims of illegal criminals, the number of ERs closed because of them, the reduction in school services to American kids because of them, in other words, the impact on Americans who don't profit from them, his response was, "YAWN". No concern whatsoever for the price paid by Americans so that he can save a few bucks."

My goodness, that's all very interesting.


377 posted on 03/11/2007 10:56:59 PM PDT by dsc (There is no safety for honest men except by believing all possible evil of evil men. Edmund Burke)
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To: dsc

Good bye...


378 posted on 03/11/2007 11:13:22 PM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: conservative in nyc
Interesting piece. Tossell notices nothing of the huge range of FR, the creativity and expertise behind many posts, the serious battles of ideas, the vast amount of high quality new information, the wonderful speed with which news is gathered and analyzed. He sees only FR's drooling cretins. They are real enough, and seem to be growing in number, but they still don't define FR.

I wonder, when Tossell walks through a beautiful park on a sunny afternoon, does he notice only the dog turds?

379 posted on 03/11/2007 11:48:42 PM PDT by TChad
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To: conservative in nyc
It's like a glass ant farm for zealots. It's a little stomach-turning, but man, they're diligent little things. It's hard not to stare sometimes.

well I'm standing here looking at you
what do I see?
I'm looking straight through
it's so sad
when you're young
to be told
you're having
fun

so unplug the jukebox
and do us all a
favour
that music's lost its taste
so try another
flavour -
"antmusic"

well I'm standing here
what do I see?
a big nothing
threatening me
it's so sad
when you're young
to be
told
you're having fun

so unplug the jukebox
and do us all a
favour
that music's lost its taste
so try another
flavour -
"antmusic"

don't tread on
an ant he's done nothing to you
there might come a
day
when he's treading on you
don't tread on
an ant you'll end up black and blue
you cut off his
head
legs come looking for you

--Adam Ant, "Antmusic"

380 posted on 03/12/2007 12:21:53 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (The Republican primary field SUCKS!!!)
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