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Democrats Want Gitmo Prisoners Sent to U.S. (Quantico & Norfolk, VA!)
The Politico ^ | March 8, 2007 | Mike Allen

Posted on 03/08/2007 12:07:43 PM PST by ReagansRaiders

Key House Democrats plan to insist the Pentagon shut down the detention camp at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, and are contemplating the relocation of many of the 385 or so remaining terrorist suspects to military brigs along the East Coast -- including Quantico, Va., and Charleston, S.C.

"It sets us back in the war on terrorism to be maintaining Guantanamo," said Rep. Jim Moran (D-Va.), who's heading an investigation of the facility for the House Defense Appropriations Subcommittee.

"It will enhance our reputation to close it down and to apply our system of justice to all of these detainees," he added.

After two trips to Guantanamo, Moran told The Politico that he's recommending Congress cut funding to the detention center at the end of summer 2008. The men held there should then be released, tried or moved to the United States, he said.

A Democratic official involved in developing the Guantanamo strategy said the Democrats, who control the new Congress, expect Republicans to object to bringing the detainees onto U.S. soil because their attorneys would surely argue they were entitled to myriad new rights.

The official, speaking on the condition of anonymity, said Democrats are planning hearings in April or May to "build a record" that closing Guantanamo would be beneficial and that it would be legal, as well as logistically feasible, to bring its detainees to the United States. The hearings would start with panels of lawyers, some of whom are convinced the plan is workable and some of whom represent detainees now at Guantanamo.

And to make the measure more palatable to Republicans, Moran said he would suggest the detainees be transferred to military bases that would allow them to be tried in federal courts under the Richmond-based 4th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.

"Republicans certainly could not consider that a mollycoddling, liberal bastion," Moran said. "The 4th Circuit is as conservative as you get. But the whole world would see that the United States stands for the rule of law. And I think the high-value targets would be shown to be people who undoubtedly should be detained and prosecuted.

"But you've got to distinguish among these people," he said. "We have to prove they actually did something that was designed to hurt American citizens."

A senior administration official, also speaking on the condition of anonymity, said he was puzzled by the Democrats' frequent discussion of closing Guantanamo.

"While we want to bring these guys to trial as quickly as possible, where do Democrats believe we should keep Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the mastermind of the 9/11 plot?" the official asked. "Which American city will they choose to place America's most wanted terrorists?"

The Democratic official said the plan would be to relocate the terrorists to military brigs that have suitable courtrooms. In addition to Quantico and Charleston, many could go to Fort Leavenworth, Kan., or to the Norfolk Naval Station, which has four courtrooms.

Still other possibilities include the Marine Corps Air Station in Beaufort, S.C., and Fort Gordon, Fort Stewart and Hunter Army Airfield, all in Georgia.

In the flush of taking control of the House in January, Democrats had talked about pushing to close Guantanamo immediately, perhaps as part of the emergency wartime funding bill that is now pending. But they had trouble settling on a strategy for that bill and now are considering a shutdown directive in the overall defense appropriations bill for the 2008 fiscal year that begins Oct. 1.

The prison camp at the U.S. Naval Base at Guantanamo Bay has been a constant headache for the Bush administration, which has been accused of holding innocent people there indefinitely. Hunger strikes, suicides and accusations of inappropriate interrogations have plagued the facility, home to what the White House calls some of the world's most dangerous terrorists.

U.S. allies abroad have complained about Guantanamo as well. And the president has said that he would like to close it down but that there is no other place to hold the detainees.

Asked about the furor that could erupt in local communities chosen to receive the detainees, Moran noted that the brigs were secure and that most of the detainees had not "been involved in any combat."

"Many of them have never engaged in any act of violence," Moran said. "Some of them hold beliefs that are anathema to ours, but we have a tradition that we don't punish people for their beliefs but rather for their actions."


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Virginia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; brianmoran; enemywithin; insane; jimmoran; moonbats; norfolk; quantico; wot
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Once again, Jim Moran proves that he is insane.
1 posted on 03/08/2007 12:07:48 PM PST by ReagansRaiders
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To: ReagansRaiders

* TOTAL LIBERAL INSANITY *


2 posted on 03/08/2007 12:08:39 PM PST by EagleUSA
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To: ReagansRaiders

I'm willing to do a trade. Send Pelosi, et al to Gitmo, and bring the Gitmo prisoners to Alcatraz.


3 posted on 03/08/2007 12:09:31 PM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: ReagansRaiders
I think we should house the prisoners from Gitmo in the demoncrats homes.

Murtha can take a dozen.
4 posted on 03/08/2007 12:09:35 PM PST by BMC1 (11/7/06 THE DAY WE LOST THE WAR. TERRORISTS AND THE TERRORIST LOVING DEMONCRATS ARE NOW IN CONTROL.)
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To: ReagansRaiders

This will be called the "GREAT SCOTT" Decision............


5 posted on 03/08/2007 12:09:45 PM PST by Red Badger (Britney Spears shaved her head............Well, that's one way of getting rid of headlice.........)
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To: ReagansRaiders
THEY ARE INSANE!!!!
6 posted on 03/08/2007 12:09:59 PM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: ReagansRaiders

Jim Maroon, ask Hillary if she needs a cheap re-education center.


7 posted on 03/08/2007 12:10:27 PM PST by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: ReagansRaiders

Why? So we can coddle them? DemonRATS are such idiots.


8 posted on 03/08/2007 12:10:52 PM PST by AlaskaErik (Everyone should have a subject they are ignorant about. I choose professional corporate sports.)
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To: ReagansRaiders
Moran The Mor - On!
9 posted on 03/08/2007 12:12:17 PM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: ReagansRaiders

385 prisoners? Put one in each Democrat House member's office, and one or two in each Democrat Senators's office. Easy solution.


10 posted on 03/08/2007 12:13:10 PM PST by TommyDale (What will Rudy do in the War on Terror? Implement gun control on insurgents and Al Qaeda?)
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He's fulfilling Osama's wish.

"that would allow them to be tried in federal courts"

OBL said they would use our institutions against us. These terrorists will be "tried" and if cleared (which, let's face it, will probably happen since forensic teams weren't following these bozos around gathering evidence against them) released IN the US.


WTG Moran - you are officially aiding and abetting the enemy.


11 posted on 03/08/2007 12:13:58 PM PST by Hoodlum91 (I support global warming.)
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I don't understand the Democrat Party's reasoning here... there are only a few hundred detainees at Club Gitmo, they would need many more than that to be brought into the USA to tip future elections to their favor.
12 posted on 03/08/2007 12:15:39 PM PST by pnh102
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Democrats want Gitmo Prisoners to U.S.

It's called reuniting the family!

13 posted on 03/08/2007 12:16:28 PM PST by nctexan (Top 10 Presidential Reqs. for 2008 - see my homepage)
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To: ReagansRaiders

The detainees need to be set free one at a time.

They should be told that they have 5 minutest to get in to the water and swim to Haiti. If they make it to Haiti, they're free to go 'cuz Allah (En-shala) willed it.

Each one should also be provide a lensatic compass and provided a headding.

If they fail to get in the water and start swimming toward Haiti, and or deviate from the headding, Bang!

If they drown on the way to Haiti, En-shala, Allah willed that too.


14 posted on 03/08/2007 12:16:51 PM PST by roaddog727 (BullS##t does not get bridges built)
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"build a record" that closing Guantanamo would be beneficial

I thought that was spelled "fabricate".

15 posted on 03/08/2007 12:20:40 PM PST by siunevada (If we learn nothing from history, what's the point of having one? - Peggy Hill)
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To: nctexan

Next, they''ll want to register them to vote............


16 posted on 03/08/2007 12:20:56 PM PST by Red Badger (Britney Spears shaved her head............Well, that's one way of getting rid of headlice.........)
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To: AlaskaErik
This is nothing more than another liberal power grab. If we leave them alone and leave them there the murderers are beyond the reach of the ACLU and other legal arms of the socialist democratic party. These detainees are nothing more than a pawn for more power. As things are right now these detainees are beyond the reach of US courts because they are on foreign soil and will stay out of reach of liberal judges as long as they stay on foreign soil. The USSC has already found this to be good law. Now they want to bring them here so they can use them for political games.
This is nothing but a huge power grab on the part of the dimwits. We are at war. The dimwits just don't get it.
17 posted on 03/08/2007 12:21:07 PM PST by oldenuff2no
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To: ReagansRaiders

I'm a little surprised that the Libs didn't suggest that we arm the Gitmo prisoners.


18 posted on 03/08/2007 12:21:42 PM PST by Haroldson
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To: roaddog727

Works for me with one addition. They have to take the DEMONCRATS with them.


19 posted on 03/08/2007 12:21:44 PM PST by BMC1 (OVER AND OVER LIBERALS PROVE THEY ARE MENTALLY UNSTABLE)
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To: EagleUSA

> apply our system of justice to all of these detainees

Our system of justice is anarchy thanks to liberal activists.


20 posted on 03/08/2007 12:22:39 PM PST by AZRepublican ("The degree in which a measure is necessary can never be a test of the legal right to adopt it.")
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