This juror speaking on camera just proclaimed that this judgment was politically oriented! "Where's Rove?" For Christ's sake, Rove, Cheney etc., have nothing to do with this case.
Posted on 03/06/2007 8:34:59 AM PST by Dog
Breaking on MSNBC
You're right! Hope team Libby is taking notes.
There may be justice in this world, but it won't be found in an American courtroom - not anymore.
I'll bet he never even felt the lightning.
I didn't hit abuse. I figured the name would be here a couple days. I wanted to see what it had to say.
I said "I believe" and "I suppose". I am using an old memory of the Nixon pardon and I freely admit I could be wrong.
Clinton issued 140 pardons on his last day of office (January 20, 2001). Some controversial pardons include the following:
- Carlos A. Vignali had his sentence for cocaine trafficking commuted, after serving 6 of 15 years in federal prison.
- Almon Glenn Braswell was pardoned of his mail fraud and perjury convictions, even while a federal investigation was underway regarding additional money laundering and tax evasion charges. Braswell and Carlos Vignali each paid approximately $200,000 to Hillary Clinton's brother, Hugh Rodham, to represent their respective cases for clemency. Hugh Rodham returned the payments after they were disclosed to the public. Braswell would later invoke the Fifth Amendment at a Senate Committee hearing in 2001, when questioned about allegations of his having systematically defrauded senior citizens of millions of dollars.
- Marc Rich, a fugitive, was pardoned of tax evasion, after clemency pleas from Israeli prime minister Ehud Barak, among many other international luminaries. Denise Rich, Marc's former wife, was a close friend of the Clintons and had made substantial donations to both Clinton's library and Hillary's Senate campaign. Several months after her last donation, emails reveal Republican attorney "Scooter" Libby asked her to approach Clinton about pardoning Marc Rich. Clinton agreed to a pardon that required Marc Rich to pay a $100,000,000 fine before he could return to the United States. According to Paul Volcker's independent investigation of Iraqi Oil-for-Food kickback schemes, Marc Rich was a middleman for several suspect Iraqi oil deals involving over 4 million barrels of oil.
- Susan McDougal, who had already completed her sentence, was pardoned for her role in the Whitewater scandal; McDougal had served 18 months on contempt charges for refusing to testify about Clinton's role.
- Roger Clinton, the president's half-brother, on drug charges. Roger Clinton would be charged with drunk driving and disorderly conduct in an unrelated incident within a year of the pardon. He was also briefly alleged to have been utilized in lobbying for the Braswell pardon, among others.
As hubby just said to me: These d*%^ people leak and lie NATIONAL SECRETS TO TERRORISTS all day long and nothing ever happens.
A possible crime turns out NOT TO BE A CRIME AT ALL (because Joe Wilson opened THAT dam YEARS ago on the cocktail circuit) but it doesn't matter because the investigator hates Repubs so he gets charged with things WILSON AND ARMITAGE did.
This jury was too stupid to know what they were dealing with if they actually had to ask the judge if lying to a REPORTER is a crime.
You're not reading before posting. He asked why they weren't put on the stand, not why they weren't put on trial.
Don't let the door hit you in the @ss on the way out.
"Assuming Scooter has something on Cheney, he'd be foolish to let it out. That could jeopardize his pardon.
Well, if Scooter feels that the President won't pardon him, he should spill the beans and may the chips fall. The guy did nothing wrong, other than to lie for his boss. He was only following orders from his boss.
I think Fitz knew when the indictments came down that he couldn't get anyone but Scooter -- and then only for procedural crimes. He has nothing on the substantive issues that triggered the investigation.
That's why I believe these verdicts really won't hurt the Administration very much, and won't affect the 2008 elections at all. The convictions are peculiar to Libby and can't really be tied to anyone else.
Fitz put so much into this case because that's all he had and to come up completely empty-handed would have been humiliating.
Let him talk.
He's telling the defense a lot they need to know.
But I am shocked he was allowed on the jury.
A reporter knows how background stuff goes on in D.C.
I'm not saying it is alright. Just that it would not be suprising if it happened.
What does he do now.
Again if he has any conscious to see this guy go to prison for potentially 30 years, it will haunt him, or is Russert is vacuous that it won't matter.
This is supposedly the same man that puked after seeing the 2 hour unedited W Broaddrick interview, you think this might bother him as well?
Time to retire Tim.....
#617 I was thinking the same thing!
No doubt.
DITTO. Did he just ask for Rove, REALLY?
New practice: Embedded reporters on juries.
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