Posted on 03/05/2007 6:45:59 PM PST by Congressman Billybob
Rudy was referring to how elections are run in NYC. They have what is known as "fusion candidates"...the more parties that endorse you, the more lines you get on the ballot with the potential for more votes...it has nothing to do with "I'm really a Democrat"...google "electoral fusion"..
I don't call it "Strict" when I think that a party that supposedly believes in the Constitution embraces a candidate that does not value or respect the BOR. This is a typical "I know better than you" person that believes everyone else is an idiot. NYC personified. HE is a dangerous man if you believe in anything other than the dollar. You can't be strong on anti-terrorism and weak on the border and illegals.
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Ping to #177 flashbunny.
There are politicians that I can agree with on issues and dislike or distrust personally.
There are some that I can disagree with on issues and still like or trust personally.
There are some that I cannot agree with nor can I like or trust.
I don't agree with nor like nor trust hillary.
I agree with and like Newt.
I don't agree with but like and trust Rudy.
I think that Rudy can make a fine president and get some very positive things done.
If Stalin were running as a Republican and was clear more conservative than Hitler, who was running as a Democrat, would you be touting the candidacy of Stalin? I actually believe you would.
The doctrine is not bigotry; the uses to which it is put very well can be.
Do we really want to go back to burning heretics at the stake?
We "purists" aren't asking for a perfect candidate, we're asking for someone that isn't a liberal on issue after issue and is generally conservative. When there is virtually no difference between two candidates, what is the point of even bothering caring?
RINOs and liberal Republicans do more damage to the conservative cause than liberal Democrats do. Eight years of a RINO and/or a Democrat in charge is far worse than four years of Democrat. From Christie Todd Whitman to Michael Bloomberg to Arnold Schwartzenkennedy, RINO politicians have consistently been a disaster.
It's disgraceful those calling themselves conservatives can't even fight for a conservative candidate in a primary.
Why would you believe that anymore than anyone would believe John Kerry, dressing up in an orange jumpsuit and carrying a rifle, was in favor of gun rights?
One has to be pretty gulliable to believe a man that is rabidly in favor of abortion rights that has proven to have no moral compass or character in his personal life would keep such a promise.
As a Duncan Hunter supporter I am choosing not to engage in debate on this Rudy Giuliani thread on Free Republic. As a freeper I am disappointed that there are fans of a liberal presidential candidate trying to push socially liberal views on this socially conservative forum. In particular, I have noticed that the Rudy G fans do not answer posts questioning the qualitative substance of their candidate, or the posts are met merely with insults.
Duncan Hunter's campaign website
http://www.gohunter08.com/
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Video of Rudy Giuliani in his own words
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM
Transcript of video below.
Will the real Rudy show up at CPAC?
Culture of life:
ABC clip:
George Will: "Do you think Roe v Wade was good constitutional law?"
Rudy Giuliani: "Yes I believe, I believe it is."
Cnn Clip December 2, 1999:
Announcer: "Giuliani was then asked whether he supports a ban on what critics call partial birth abortions, something Bush strongly supports."
Rudy Giuliani : "No, I have not supported that, and I don't see my position on that changing."
Immigration
CNN clip:
Announcer: "Back in 1996, mayor Giuliani went to federal court to challenge new federal laws requiring the city to inform the federal government about illegal immigrants."
Rudy Giuliani: "There isn't a mayor or a public official in this country that's more strongly pro immigrant than I am. Including disagreeing with President Clinton when he signed an anti-immigration legislation about two or three years ago."
Gun control:
CNN clip
Rudy Giuliani: "I'm in favor of gun control"
Meet The Press:
Tim Russert: "How about registration of all handguns?"
Rudy Giuliani: "You know I'm in favor of that. I've been on your show many times."
Gay Rights:
CNN Clip:
Announcer: "As mayor he supported civil unions, and extending health and other benefits to gay couples."
ABC Clip: "I supported domestic partnership legislation and signed it"
Meet The Press:
Tim Russert: "So should gay people be openly allowed to serve?"
Rudy Giuliani: "I think people should be judged on the merits. And there should not be a specific focus on someone's sexual orientation."
First Amendment:
ABC Clip
Cokie Roberts: "Would you vote in the senate in favor of Mccain / Feingold?"
Rudy Giuliani: "Yes, I'm a big supporter of Mccain / Feingold. I have been for a long time."
Party Loyalty:
ABC Clip:
Rudy Giuliani: "Frankly George, I'd like to run on all the lines. I'd like to run on the liberal line, the conservative line, I'd like to run on the democratic line if I could figure out how to do it."
Conservative Values:
Meet The Press:
Tim Russert: "Whether it's gays in the military, gun control, campaign finance, late term abortion - you and Hillary Clinton are in sync on those issues."
Rudy Giuliani: "Well then maybe the other side should stop the 'He's part of the vast right wing conspiracy'."
Welcome To CPAC, Rudy!
End clip.
Mitt Romney is courting the vote of conservatives. If he becomes President, I wouldn't expect him to stab in the back the conservatives he's going to need in 2012.
I'll admit it's certainly possible he could abandon conservatives once elected, figuring that that name recognition would allow him to win in 2012 even without their votes, but the risk of that happening is less worrisome than the near certainty that a candidate who is more interested in chasing liberals' votes rather than earning conservatives' votes will run even further left once elected.
I know McCain is unacceptably bad (McCain-Feingold, among other things). I know that Rudy is unacceptably bad (gun lawsuits; sanctuary city policies). Of the people who would seem to have any chance at all, Romney is the only one who is even marginally acceptable, and he seems like he might actually be fairly decent.
I don't think Mitt Romney is planning to use the Presidency to preach Mormonism, so I don't see the threat.
Certainly in the Parable of the Good Samaritan, Jesus makes clear that a heathen who does what is right is more to be blessed than a religious person who does not. Feel free to regard Rudy as a heathen, but I don't see why that should disqualify him from the presidency if his show him to be purer in heart than many who call themselves "Christians".
Rudy is Hillary lite.
He is for the illegals and amnesty, guest workers, etc.
For those in flyover country & the burbs it is not in your face or costing you so you can be Expedient in your voting.
This is another Front on the War on Terror.
You can't be for one part of the WOT and not the other.
It is a matter of which takes over first.
I am against both.
bttt
The whole Giuliani speech is up on FR as of about an hour ago. It would be a good exercise for you to read that speech, and then say why you disagree, or why you think he was lying in that speech. Because, if he was telling the truth in that speech, it is grossly false to call him "Hillary lite."
John / Billybob
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