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Giuliani To Appear At Schwarzenegger Conference
NY Post ^ | March 3, 2007 | MAGGIE HABERMAN

Posted on 03/04/2007 7:31:30 PM PST by FairOpinion

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If Rudy can carry CA, as he might well, the Dem candidate doesn't have a chance. Arnold can help Rudy carry CA. That would be a huge defeat for the Dems.
1 posted on 03/04/2007 7:31:33 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: BunnySlippers; PhiKapMom; areafiftyone

Rudy PING


2 posted on 03/04/2007 7:31:56 PM PST by FairOpinion (Tell Congress: Work for Victory in Iraq. Stop Hillary. Go to: http://www.TheVanguard.org)
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To: FairOpinion

You mean Arnold isn't a Dem???


3 posted on 03/04/2007 7:33:00 PM PST by madprof98 ("moritur et ridet" - salvianus)
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To: FairOpinion

Why would it be a defeat for the dems if most of them vote for Rudy?


4 posted on 03/04/2007 7:33:24 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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5 posted on 03/04/2007 7:36:22 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: FairOpinion; Blackirish; Jameison; Sabramerican; BunnySlippers; tkathy; veronica; Roccus; ...

That would be AWESOME to carry CA!


6 posted on 03/04/2007 7:36:22 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Broken Glass Republican -- RudyforPresident2008@yahoogroups.com or http://www.rudygforamerica.com)
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Rino Giuliani is sure to get the gay vote.


7 posted on 03/04/2007 7:36:39 PM PST by Outland (Socialism is a mental disorder.)
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To: madprof98

I see you are not in CA.

CA is a very blue state - the CA Legislature is overwhelmingly Democrat controlled. They keep passing the worst bills, everything from real socialized government run medicine, to drivers licenses to illegals, to legalizing homosexual marriage, to teaching that homosexuality is good to schoolchildren, to name a few.

Arnold VETOED all of that. His Dem opponents in the first election, Bustamante and second election, Angelides, are far left wing, who are on record that they would have signed these bills. Arnold saved CA, but conservatives are still too busy attacking him, while never criticizing the REAL enemy, the Democrats, to notice.

Arnold also got CA's financial house in order without raising taxes.

Arnold also may well help elect a Republican president and help defeat the Clinton machine.


8 posted on 03/04/2007 7:38:25 PM PST by FairOpinion (Tell Congress: Work for Victory in Iraq. Stop Hillary. Go to: http://www.TheVanguard.org)
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To: FairOpinion

You've been refining your spin,, or hired a better writer.. not sure which.. oh well,, anything for the team.

Just Win, Baby.


9 posted on 03/04/2007 7:43:01 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......)
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To: PhiKapMom

Indeed!


10 posted on 03/04/2007 7:43:08 PM PST by granite
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Because, if you could understand precinct voting, and numbers in even the Red States, Dem votes are needed to inch any Goper over the edge to be a winner. There are more Dems registered than Gopers. Now, one thing is known. Likely voters in both parties are close but Pubs for years have gotten their voters out. In Ca., with huge Dem numbers, Rudy could not only win but with some coatails, even bring some down ticket Pubs in with him. Arnold could not do that but on a Presidential ticket, it is possible. NJ would be another such state.


11 posted on 03/04/2007 7:43:11 PM PST by phillyfanatic
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To: FairOpinion

"That would be a huge defeat for the Dems"

In my book, Rudy carrying CA would be a defeat for conservatives and a "defeat" with which liberal Democrats could certainly live.

With Rudy and Arnold, as they say... birds of a feather flock together!


12 posted on 03/04/2007 7:49:04 PM PST by nj26 (Secure the Borders and Protect the Unborn! Duncan Hunter '08! (Proud2BNRA))
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To: phillyfanatic

sounds like more Progressive thinking,, again, how much will this latest foray into the middle cost all of us long-term.. as to coat-tails, I wonder how many care to buy much more of what the Gub is selling, no matter how a previous poster spins his "accomplishments" and rams it to the rest of the base and with much glee, as you may notice,, I, for one, would feel more comfortable without him at the Gub's side.. if ya get my drift, and it isn't to the left as so many are willing to lean so readily.


13 posted on 03/04/2007 7:49:43 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......)
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To: NormsRevenge

Maybe Rudy can take a page from Arnold and let his liberal Democrat wife take over his administration.


14 posted on 03/04/2007 7:51:35 PM PST by nj26 (Secure the Borders and Protect the Unborn! Duncan Hunter '08! (Proud2BNRA))
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To: FairOpinion

Wow, never thought of that.


15 posted on 03/04/2007 7:52:26 PM PST by Howlin (Honk if you like Fred Thompson!!!)
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To: NormsRevenge
Just Win, Baby.

So your plan is to lose?

16 posted on 03/04/2007 7:53:13 PM PST by Howlin (Honk if you like Fred Thompson!!!)
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To: phillyfanatic

There are more than enough states where democrats are a minority to put a good conservative republican over the top, with independents and a few democrat-registered non-affiliates.

What kind of coattails do you think Rudy's going to have with republicans? If Rudy gets more moderate democrats out to vote for him, who do you think they are going to vote for down-ticket, people like Hunter?

I'm convinced Rudy would be a disaster for solidly conservative down-ticket candidates. He will definitely suppress the solid-conservative vote, and while that won't hurt him because he'll have the independents and democrats, they won't vote for our other candidates.

Conversely, if we had a solid conservative 3rd-party candidate, it might put a democrat in the white house, but also get conservatives elected down-ticket because it would bring out the solid conservatives in droves, and they WOULD vote for any non-rudyish down-ticket republican.

Of course, if we put up a lot of rudyish candidates, we might win down-ticket races. And if the state and local government races also have rudy-ish candidates brought into the process by Rudy's success in the nomination process, we could end up winning a majority control of house and senates at the state level, and completely destroy any chance of stopping gay marriage/civil unions, AND any meaningful legislation on the state level to stop abortions, much less keeping our right to have the weapons available we need to defend ourselves when the police refuse to do so.

The top of the ticket defines the down-ballot races.


17 posted on 03/04/2007 7:55:27 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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Rino Giuliani is sure to get the gay vote.

I don't know if the priesthood is that into Rudy.

18 posted on 03/04/2007 7:57:42 PM PST by zarf (Her hair was of a dank yellow, and fell over her temples like sauerkraut......)
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To: Outland

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I don’t know how Rudy always manages to be in the wrong (right) place at the right (wrong) time. First in the middle of 9/11 and then this battle between the social and fiscal conservatives.

Chapter 1: Live From the Reagan Building

19 posted on 03/04/2007 7:58:17 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: Howlin
So your plan is to lose?

No. The plan is not to enable, support or vote for liberals. That is the purpose of FreeRepublic isn't it? Advancing conservatism.

20 posted on 03/04/2007 8:00:24 PM PST by Amerigomag
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