Posted on 03/04/2007 1:04:27 PM PST by Al Simmons
One recent anti-Rudy poster stated the following:
"And if Rudy does get the nod, expect the MSM to open up the hype floodgates on the cross-dressing and the gay stuff -- oh, not condemning of course (wink) but how it's a big change, how will this play in the South, does this mean gay marriage is A-OK for the GOP."
MY REPLY: And if they do it will be countered with images of Rudy's heroism during and after 9/11 and most Americans will be DISGUSTED - at the MSM, NOT at RUDY.
The issue in 2008 will be the WOT - what with Iran's creeping closer to nukes and threatening the world. Not pull-out, but how to best change strategy and WIN.
Your statement does not mean to, but it nevertheless implies that Southerners and all Socons are stupid one-issue voters. Having lived in the Bible - Belt for 8 years I can tell you this is FAR from the truth. Its almost like you have been taken in by, and are repeating the MSM's Koolaid mantra about this group of Americans - of which I consider myself to be one, BTW.
Southerners are the most patriotic of Americans, they know we are at war, they absolutely DESPISE the treasonous opposition like Murtha, and they know that Rudy is the one who will take the fight to the terrorists - and without a velvet glove a la Dubya in Iraq, but with brass knuckles.
Rudy's principled stance on judges and the 'socon' issues (ie. he is a constructionist who will appoint constructionist judges like Scalia and Roberts - confirmed by no less a Federalist Society Conservative luminary than Ted Olsen - combined with his tacit promise that he is not a 'crusader' on social issues but believes that they should be decided by the people's elected representatives is right in line with what 90% of 'socons' (like myself, for example) believe).
So the fact that he is not flip-flopping a la Mitt and trying to brown-nose this "group" is also enhancing his image as a true leader - which he is - its funny how it was the Veterans here on FR who have been the first to catch on to that. Its a 'disturbance in the force' that we are highly attuned to, if you will. We can tell a real leader from a political poseur a mile away - and Rudy is a real leader.
Therefore Rudy will not meet significant opposition in the primary voters block except from a tiny minority of 'no compromise - any time any where' radicals who are squealing like stuck pigs around here the past few weeks because their own tactics have resulted in themselves becoming increasingly marginalized and out-of-the current conservative stream, which gathering itself up into a raging torrent that will sweep Rudy into office.
I was open-minded on Rudy when the bashing started a couple of weeks ago. Now, I am 100% behind him. The misguided attempts at character assassination, and 'can't see the forest for the trees blindness' of the anti-Rdy bots around here has had this effect on many, many Freepers - and is having this effect on conservative voters across the country.
Contrary to the idiotic "Rudy=Hitlary" statements which even the biggest rube knows are BS, the difference between Rudy and Hitlary (besides that one will cut-and-run while the other will get tougher in the WOT) is that Hitlary is a doctrinaire crusading Marxist who will use the FULL power of her office to sign laws and appoint judges who will seek to limit and take away our rights as religious Americans, home-schoolers and 2nd Amendment backers - this will be THE FOCUS of her administration, NOT the WOT. She's waited nearly 40 years to implement Saul ALinsky's tactics for turing America into a Marxist-liberal state. And she is cackling about the dissent she hopes will split the GOP and give her a cakewalk to the WH. Happily, she is DEAD WRONG about this.
Rudy's priorities are straight - WOT is #1, - AND IF YOU GET NOTHING MORE OUT OF THIS POST, PLEASE GET THIS:
Rudy is a PRINCIPLED CONSERVATIVE who believes that the people should decide most of their social issues through their local elected representatives - and he will appoint conservative judges who have that philosophy - as opposed to Hitlary, who will appoint Ruth Bader Ginsburgs to every open Federal Judiciary Seat ACROSS THE NATION.
THAT is the real difference between Rudy and any national radical crusading left-wing Democrat who will run in 2008 (99% chance its Hitlary in my view).
So look at this issue beyond looking at out-of-context quotes made by Rudy when he was Mayor of a 5-1 LIBERAL city where he had to politically survive in order to save the City (which he did). He was THE most hated politician by the liberal limousine crowd that NY had ever seen. Does this sound like Rudy=Hitlary to you?
Look at his record of leadership and supporting pro-life and pro-2nd Amendment conservative candidates ALL OVER THE COUNTRY in the 2002, 2004 and 2006 elections.
That is called loyalty and patriotism. This is a man in whom I would have every confidence being back-to-back with in a political foxhole - and I cannot say that about any of the other candidates.
So please, those of you criticizing Rudy so viciously around here - get your 'gaze out of your navels' and see the 'Big Picture'.
Rudy is not a threat to conservatives, he will uphold local rights (especially through his judicial appointments), AND he will fight to protect this nation from a terrorist and a looming nuclear-terrorist peril. The alternative is to elect a Dem and concede defeat - HERE and ABROAD.
He is NO THREAT to the so-called 'socons'.
But he is a DEADLY THREAT to the terorrists and terrorist states (read:Iran) who would destroy us - and he a DEADLY THREAT to the liberal hegemony that Hitlary and her backers would LOVE to impose upon us.
It is the MSM that is playing up the 'Rudy is splitting the GOP base' FALSE stories. They are hoping to create such a split so that they have a chance to defeat him in 2008.
Well, their strategy is NOT WORKING, and he will defeat them - for all our sakes - in 2008.
Over and out!
Sorry,
I cannot support Rudy.
I am debating whether I should OPPOSE him enthusiastically, or just to simply withhold my support for Rudy.
BTW - I wasn't referring to Rudy as someone that would do that.
But if the counry went far enough to the left, after all Hitler was a Socialist as was his party.
Any way it really isn't that important, because Rudy will not get the nod.
"Why don't you pound a big pile of sand up your rectum?"
Wow. No doubt about it, you're definitely a Rudy supporter.
You'd fair better attempting to make snowballs in hell, than attempting to get me to vote for a RATpublican. Ain't gonna happen. Blackbird.
Some would argue that Mayor Giuliani fits that profile. That's not for me to judge, however.
Ok...I'm Ok with any of the Repubs...I'm not OK with Hillary.
have a good week!
NO WAY!
Rudy Guiliani is a left wing lawyer.
He is a simulated Hilary Clinton. Voters will go for a real hilary clinton vs Rudy Guliani in drag.
ALSO ALL THE RINO WOMEN TALK REPUBLICAN BUT VOTE FOR THE WOMAN REGARDLESS. It is all about quotas.
Christine Todd Whitman will vote for hilary clinton.
This is the primary season and there is ZERO reason to support Guiliani any more than McCain.
To know Rudy Guiliaini is to NOT WANT TO VOTE for Rudy Guiliani.
"Why don't you pound a big pile of sand up your rectum?"
Ouch! That's an image that I never thought I'd begin my day with.
"..so whats up with all the hysteria?"
When you get this letter in your mailbox in January 2009, maybe you'll understand the hysteria.
Dear RINO Rudy Supporters,
I want to thank you for your wonderful support in helping to get me elected POTUS. Bill and I are so thrilled to be back in the White House again. Your active support for Rudy, and getting him nominated, was the key to me winning. Without your help Bill and I would not be here today.
Affectionately Yours,
President Hillary Rodman
P.S. I plan to nominate Rudy to the Supreme Court as soon as there is a vacancy. He will help us tilt the court back in our favor to assure that millions more unborn babies will never see the light of day. After all, it's every woman's right!
P.S.S. As you recall, my campaign slogan was, "We're Going to Take Things Away From You on Behalf of the Common Good" ALL YOUR POSSESIONS BELONG TO ME---SUCKER!!!! YEEHAAAAAAAA!!!!!!
Same here.....I'm voting for Rudy because we need a leader for these dangerous times against dangerous enemies. The "other" issues that Rudy haters keep spewing are secondary. You can't protest for or against any of the activist issues if our enemies are ready to slit your throat.
But, that fact doesn't bother some conservative like me.
As I have mentioned, if you read the post that this person puts up he accuses those who don't follow the Rudy train as being less than something.
Starting off by calling others names is not the way to win friends and influence people.
Yes, he has some conservative values, but for some to try and say he is the whole cake is less than honest.
No ma'am, your lies and misconceptions are very existent. But better people than I have tried to get you to see facts and failed and were attacked by you for having the gall call to you on your verbal gymnastics.
Life of the mother is indeed the crux of the problem with the bill. Those with the ability to understand see that the life of a mother will be construed by abortionists (using both definitions) can be minor problems (such as her social life will be ruined) compared to killing a viable baby.
You so know that it was originally the health of the mother. If a mother was distraught (considered a health problem) over having to have a live baby living with her she could have it killed at 9 months gestation. BTW, speaking of the life of the mothers, PBA is considerable more dangerous to the life of the mother than giving birth is.
Very few PBA's are preformed to save the life of a mother, most are done for convenience. Those that would not sign the bill are supporting a mother's desire to have it killed seconds before it could be born alive.
The conservative Christians are rushing to vote for Rudy. Jim Wallis would be so proud!
My pleasure. And thank YOU for remaining open-minded--I will be that way too.
No question the cross dressing is very bothersome, but I will vote for Rudy should he get the nomination.Obama or Hillary will DESTROY us. FRED THOMPSON is looking better all the time.
What's Rudy's stance on the Second Amendment ... yeah I thought so. That's a liberal, doesn't trust people to make individual decisions and responsible judgments.
I will never vote for a gun banner. Gun banner == liberal every time. It is the one test that never fails.
No to Rudy! Every time I go through the crap to get on an airplane I think of the open borders and cities with sanctuary policies. Rudy undermined this country well before the planes hit.
No, that person twice questioned my Christianity. Not my position, but my belief in Christ. That is the reasoning of an uneducated moron.
The truth is that you are a pro-abort just like the Blue State secularist you support for President.
No, actually I'm very pro-life. I had this discussion with my pastor the last time he and I had lunch. He related that he could never vote for anyone who wasn't staunchly pro-life.
I told him I used to feel the same way (about that issue and the 2nd Amendment, to boot). "But what if the choice is electing Giuliani or electing Hillary Clinton," I asked. "Would you stay home and not vote?"
He said he probably would. I said, "Congratulations. If enough Baptists think like you, we can guarantee a Democrat victory in '08."
He didn't have an answer for that.
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