Posted on 03/03/2007 2:38:10 PM PST by Pyro7480
Romney wins narrowly while Rudy Giuliani (a client) finishes a strong second:
Romney 21%
Giuliani 17%
Brownback 15%
Gingrich 14%
McCain 12%
On combined first and second place choices, it's a win for Rudy:
Giuliani 34%
Gingrich 30%
Romney 30%
That's not too shabby. Romney's people spent thousands of dollars getting their folks to CPAC. It seemed like every other person in line for Romney's speech yesterday had an official Mitt t-shirt on -- and he certainly was being attacked as though he was the man to beat. Even so, Rudy manages to pull off a near-win by just showing up and has the most first and second place votes.
The question of whether conservatives can support Rudy Giuliani was answered pretty decisively this week.
Well said. I did not think of that.
What I find amazing is that Guiliani got even LESS support at CPAC--than he does on here!!!..LOL (17% vs. 32%, 38%,23% in the last three FR polls)
Check this out that I just picked up on the 2008 site:
CPAC Straw Poll Pro & Con
In the interest of being “fair & balanced”, let me present two different takes on the CPAC straw poll results, which I will offer without commentary.
First off, the Pro via My Man Mitt:
Mitt Romney’s speech at CPAC was what many would call astounding. Mitt is clearly making known that he is the NUMBER ONE candidate in this election. As it is becoming harder and harder, in this day and age, to be a Republican, I believe we need hope restored in the once believers. At one time Ronald Reagan did this for us, then it was Newt Gingrich, and now it is Mitt Romney. This is a man who not only restore the Republican Party, but he will find will innovate and bipartisan ways to make America better in ways we have never dreamed. People have recognized this which is way he WON the straw poll at the CPAC conference. Let us all band together for a better future and support the one man who can bring this to us, Mitt Romney.
And now the Con, per Liz Mair:
Assessment: it’s worrying when paying 200 people to vote for you only enables you to beat an unapologetically pro-choice, pro-gay candidate with no organization present on the ground at the country’s biggest conservative conference, dominated by social conservatives who should like your pro-life, pro-FMA line. It’s also very good news for Giuliani, who had no real presence at CPAC, apart from he himself speaking there and about six staffers milling about, and who obviously does not fit the ideology of your average CPACer, that he came second on the first choice poll– and only lost by 4% to a candidate who had obviously done his utmost to engineer winning the poll by busing hundreds of people in to vote for him from everywhere from Utah to Michigan. Oh– and a final note– after McCain’s CPAC hijinks, I’m surprised that he pulled off 12%. That’s surprisingly good, even if coming fifth is utterly useless.
http://race42008.com/2007/03/03/cpac-straw-poll-pro-con/
Who cares about either because neither are scientific polls. The only thing they are good for is generating news and debates on FR.
I agree. And anything that highlights the fact that Rudy is a liberal--and not supported by the majority of the traditional base--is good.
Nah, he touched on religious issues. I thought he was very sincere though rather boring.
So it was pretty stupid of the other candidates not to do that then, wasn't it?
I'm sorry, which candidate's son's are you saying are "playing school", and what difference should it make to conservatives what the children of the candidates do?
I've been trying to explain to people about the difference between scientific polls and all non-scientific polls(including internet and straw polls) but nobody wants to believe me that scientific polls mean a whole lot more than any non-scientific polls, especially polls on internet forums!
Actually, all the scientific polls show Rudy with a comfortable lead. And Rudy is a conservative on fiscal, most domestic, and foreign policies and supports strict constructionist judges.
Hunter does FAR better in FR's poll than in this poll.
I'm betting Hunter would never say something like that.
If Jay Leno had tried to make that joke using the current event, it would have just been seen as a bad joke.
Saying "girly man" would not have played off of the stupid "rehab" for saying the word.
Hiya, thanks. Hunter has a lot of common sense, something lacking in todays society.
If you are interested in such matters rather than attempts to make rhetorical points you might ask why Hunter did MISERABLY at this convention FAR worse than he does at FR?
Giuliani certainly did very well here essentially tying Romney because of the margin of error in the poll.
What is actually being told by this poll is that Giuliani is MUCH more popular among mainstream conservatives than Hunter.
Think instead of snark
read my original post again.
I am only to glad to say it.
That's why it's so important to get the "WHOLE" Rudy story out--not just the 'rock star' part. Many, many Republicans are just not aware of his liberal positions. The more debate, the better.
But who was Rudy competing against? Romney was competing for the conservative vote with Gingrich, Brownback, Hunter, Gilmore, and Tancredo. (and maybe Huckabee).
Rudy had the entire "we have to win at any cost" vote to himself, as well as the attendees who are not conservative but like to be at events like this.
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