To: Reagan Fellow
MORE Money....equals....LESS results.....DUH.
2 posted on
02/27/2007 8:35:21 AM PST by
goodnesswins
(We need to cure Academentia)
To: Reagan Fellow
THEORY: The NAEP hasn't changed much since 1990. The grade-point average is based on local tests, and has suffered from the grade inflation caused by pressure to improve grade point average, or lose funding.
"If we don't raise our test scores, we lose money!"
"OK, let's ask easier questions - more people will pass - we'll keep our money!"
Of course, the excrement collides with the rotary air-mover when the kids reach the NAEP (or the real world), but the schools don't have a dog in that fight.
Just a theory.
3 posted on
02/27/2007 8:36:19 AM PST by
Izzy Dunne
(Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
To: Reagan Fellow
No wonder educators don't like tests.
4 posted on
02/27/2007 8:37:37 AM PST by
ex-snook
("But above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
To: Reagan Fellow
5 posted on
02/27/2007 8:38:58 AM PST by
Leisler
(REAL ENVIRONMENTALISTS WALK.)
To: Reagan Fellow
To: Reagan Fellow
Why are test scores down?Because money makes no difference and the grades are fraudulent.
7 posted on
02/27/2007 8:43:10 AM PST by
Jim Noble
To: Reagan Fellow
The kids don't have to read much anymore. Even in college courses little reading is required, not even in phlilosophy.
9 posted on
02/27/2007 9:06:30 AM PST by
RightWhale
(300 miles north of Big Wild Life)
To: Reagan Fellow
Hm. Test scores in the City of Chicago are up. I'd love to see a breakdown of where scores have gone up and where they've gone down. Correlations to race, ethnicity, family income, urban/rural, state, school district spending/pupil, etc. would be illuminating.
13 posted on
02/27/2007 9:24:29 AM PST by
RonF
To: Reagan Fellow
Spending and grade point averages are up, so why are the test scores down?
Because neither spending nor GPA bear any relation to test scores.
15 posted on
02/27/2007 9:26:29 AM PST by
Xenalyte
(Anything is possible when you don't understand how anything happens.)
To: Reagan Fellow
GPAs are up, Testing Scores down...
I'd say that's a good indication that standardized tests are worthless.
17 posted on
02/27/2007 9:29:33 AM PST by
CT-Freeper
(Said the perpetually dejected Mets (and, yes, sometimes Jets) fan.)
To: Reagan Fellow
My son graduated from high school in 2006. He's about the last group of the "whole language" nonsense. Second son will graduate in 2008, and everything had changed for him in first grade--back to phonics, for the most part.
I bet the test scores will start going back up.
20 posted on
02/27/2007 9:35:44 AM PST by
jaybee
To: Reagan Fellow
When GPA is up and test scores are down, it means more parents are doing their childrens homework for them. But unfortunately, they can take the test for them.
23 posted on
02/27/2007 9:46:32 AM PST by
Niteranger68
(Point your toilets towards Mecca!)
To: Temple Owl
27 posted on
02/27/2007 9:52:33 AM PST by
Tribune7
(A bleeding heart does nothing but ruin the carpet.)
To: Reagan Fellow
I recently hung a picture on my office wall.
It was of my Dad and the MP's he commanded that were assigned to SHAEF.
My step-granddaughter saw it and asked what it was. As she is an 11th grade student I figured she would not know the term SHAEF, so I explained that it was my Dad and all the MP's assigned to Eisenhower's command in World War II.
Her reply: "Who was Eisenhower?"
In addition to her grammar, we are now also working on her knowledge of American History.
28 posted on
02/27/2007 9:58:05 AM PST by
N. Theknow
((Kennedys - Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat - But they know what's best.))
To: Reagan Fellow
Hmmm...anyone here familiar with the concept of grade inflation? Nah, teachers would NEVER do that.../sarc
30 posted on
02/27/2007 10:03:00 AM PST by
OCCASparky
(Steely-Eyed Killer of the Deep)
To: Reagan Fellow
Spending and grade point averages are up, so why are the test scores down? Because it's harder to get standardized tests to lie about how much kids have been taught.
32 posted on
02/27/2007 10:12:06 AM PST by
3niner
(War is one game where the home team always loses.)
To: Reagan Fellow
Because they're dumbed down. A 85% is now an A in some schools. Used to be a B- or C+.
44 posted on
02/27/2007 11:33:44 AM PST by
RockinRight
(When Chuck Norris goes to bed at night, he checks under the bed for Jack Bauer.)
To: Reagan Fellow
Because the "A" I used to get in the 50's would peg off the meter today.
The "D" that occured in my high school would be an "A" today.
Kids are getting much higher scores for their work than they deserve.
Doing a total disservice to everybody in this matter.
As an employer, if you present me with a resume that tells me you got these kinds of grades in today's "schools", and then I find you cannot perform the job worth a darn, I will fire your butt faster than you can start your fancy car.
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