Mysterious bones of Jesus, Joseph and Mary

The Daily Telegraph (UK) ^ | February 24, 2007 | By Tim Butcher in Jerusalem

[TightyRighty]

Oh man, where's my popcorn? These threads are amusing.

[happydogx2]

In all honesty I know nothing about the reference you cited. I was born into a Catholic family and went to a Catholic grade school and high school. I left the church in 1969 when I went to Vietnam and didn't examine the truth in the new testament scriptures until 1985. My favorite scriptures are Eph 2: 8-9 and Acts 4:12. I have indeed been saved by grace and born again as Jesus referenced in the New Testament while talking with Nicademus.

If Mary had indeed been "caught up" before death or immediately thereafter don't you have to assume there would have been a major accounting of it??

Also, just out of curiosity, does your reference make any mention of what happened to Joseph??

The best to you.

[DesScorp]

The Devil's working overtime lately, ain't he?

[Antoninus]

As was her supposed Immaculate Conception.

Martin Luther believed that "RC myth."

If you believe that the Immaculate Conception and the Assumption are myths, then you're welcome to that opinion. But you should try not to insult those brother Christians of yours who believe it. You may come to believe it some day yourself--at your particular judgment.

[nwrep]

Can you provide any Scriptural reference describing the deaths of all the Apostles?

Not all, but only one or two. But what does this have to do with your assertion? No one is claiming the Apostles ascended to Heaven, like Christ, after the Resurrection. But it sounded like you are claiming Mary's divine Ascension. Is that right?

[George W. Bush]

I am not Lutheran. Luther is not my pope. However imperfect he was as a theologian, he did not arrogate the God-like power of infallibility.

I'm still trying to figure out why the RC element just had to turn this general interest archeology-religion thread into some Pope-O-Rama. It wasn't even about the church of Rome.

[George W. Bush]

Why bother arguing then?

Fate, obviously. What, you think I'm enjoying this?

[Rodney King]

lol.

[George W. Bush]

No such thing occurred during Pope John Paul II's Papacy.

In 1985, John Paul II called her Co-Redemptrix in a public speech, echoing a similar speech by Pius XI in 1935.

[MrClose]

Some of the arguments here, using scripture to downplay or refute this Discovery are as spurious and nonsensical as the So Called Discovery itself!

My Friends .. Scripture says that "Flesh and Bone" CANNOT enter the Kingdom of Heaven!

Heaven is Spiritual.

PLEASE, study harder and use better arguments to refute these kinds of stories or .. you'll wind up looking, uh, just the way that you look now .. Uninformed.

MC

[Dajjal]

http://www.harpercollins.com/books/9780061192029/The_Jesus_Family_Tomb/index.aspx
"This discovery is potentially the last nail in the coffin of biblical literalism"
— John Dominic Crossan

Crossan, a major demytholigizer of the "Jesus Seminar" is throwing his weight behind it, too.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Dominic_Crossan

[mississippi red-neck]

My Friends .. Scripture says that "Flesh and Bone" CANNOT enter the Kingdom of Heaven!

Sorry, MC. It is "flesh and blood" that cannot enter into Heaven and "flesh and bone" that does.

1Co 15:50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption

Jesus was in in His glorified body of flesh and bones when He appeared to Thomas and the disciples in the closed upper room. P>Luk 24:39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.

Eph 5:30 For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.

Ours shall be like His at our Resuurection,because we will be like Him.<

1Jn 3:2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.

The reason He had no blood is because His blood was poured out for "our sins".

Mar 14:24 And he said unto them, This is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many

[Swordmaker]

Another article on the Jesus Tomb... this one a little more accurate. PING!

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[Swordmaker]

How many Marys were there in the gospels anyway? Were there any other women by name other than one Martha?

According to one authoritative source 24% of the women in Jerusalem in the 1st Century were named with some variation of Miriam, Maryum, all meaning Mary. The source also stated that 7% of the male population was named Joshua, Yeshua, Yehoshua, all essentially the same as the name Jesus.

[Swordmaker]

The index of The Works of Josephus includes several men named "Jesus" including a "Jesus, son of Saphat, ringleader of robbers".

Tradition has it that it was Yeshua Bar Abbas that was freed by the crowd instead of Jesus. It is an interesting name because it translates to Jesus, son of the father.

[Swordmaker]

ROFLMOL...oh really? And whose DNA did they COMPARE this DNA to in order to arrive at a 10 Million to one certainty? This isn't even as rational as Gore science.

They found that in comparing the DNA from the bones in the various ossuaries found in a family tomb that there is a 1 in 10,000,000 chance that these family members aren't related to each other... In other words, no body in the tomb was fathered by the milkman...

[highlander_UW]

OK...and that does nothing to identify who they are...only that they were related to each other.

[Swordmaker]

OK...and that does nothing to identify who they are...only that they were related to each other.

Exactly.

[mdmathis6]

"counterfeit bones of the Holy Family suddenly appear in the
Bahamas."


With a fake parchment written in Aramaic reading..."Inter us with Anna Nicole Smith"

[hosepipe]

[.. Why, then, didn't Jesus's ossuary read, "Jesus, son of Yose"? ..]

Because Jesus' name is NOT Jesus..
Hebrew and Aramaic have no "J's"..
"J's" come from Latin..