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To: George W. Bush
As was her supposed Immaculate Conception.

Martin Luther believed that "RC myth."

If you believe that the Immaculate Conception and the Assumption are myths, then you're welcome to that opinion. But you should try not to insult those brother Christians of yours who believe it. You may come to believe it some day yourself--at your particular judgment.
144 posted on 02/24/2007 10:03:12 PM PST by Antoninus ("For some, the conservative constituency is an inconvenience. For me, it's my hope." -Duncan Hunter)
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To: Antoninus
I am not Lutheran. Luther is not my pope. However imperfect he was as a theologian, he did not arrogate the God-like power of infallibility.

I'm still trying to figure out why the RC element just had to turn this general interest archeology-religion thread into some Pope-O-Rama. It wasn't even about the church of Rome.
146 posted on 02/24/2007 10:15:41 PM PST by George W. Bush
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To: Antoninus
You are correct.
And not just in Catholic doctrine.

The sins of the father are inherited by the son.
Original sin is the moral corruption inherited by all men from Adam.

Which is why Jesus could not have ANY descendant of Adam for a father.

Jesus was without sin.
189 posted on 02/25/2007 7:45:30 PM PST by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: Antoninus
Isaiah 7:13

The Prophesy of the Virgin Birth



13. Then he said, “Hear now, O house of David! Is it a small thing for you to weary men, but will you weary my
God also? 14. Therefore the Lord Himself will give you a sign: Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a Son,
and shall call His name Immanuel.

Isaiah 7.14b Immanuel: That is God is with us.
195 posted on 02/25/2007 8:33:43 PM PST by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: Antoninus
The Prophecy is forfilled:

Matthew 1:22-25
22 So all this was done that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the Lord through the prophet, saying:
23“Behold, the virgin shall be with child, and bear a Son, and they shall call His name Immanuel,”£
which is translated, “God with us.”
24 Then Joseph, being aroused from sleep, did as the angel of the Lord commanded him and took to him his wife, 25 and
did not know her till she had brought forth her£ firstborn Son. And he called His name JESUS.


Luke 1:27
27 To a virgin betrothed to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David. The virgin’s name was Mary. 28 And
having come in, the angel said to her, “Rejoice, highly favored one, the Lord is with you; £blessed are you among
women!” 29 But £when she saw him, she was troubled at his saying, and considered what manner of greeting this was. 30 Then
the angel said to her, “Do not be afraid, Mary, for you have found favor with God. 31 And behold, you will
conceive in your womb and bring forth a Son, and shall call His name JESUS. 32 He will be great, and will be
called the Son of the Highest; and the Lord God will give Him the throne of His father David. 33 And He will reign
over the house of Jacob forever, and of His kingdom there will be no end.”
34Then Mary said to the angel, “How can this be, since I do not know a man?”
35And the angel answered and said to her, “The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Highest will
overshadow you; therefore, also, that Holy One who is to be born will be called the Son of God.
36 Now indeed,
Elizabeth your relative has also conceived a son in her old age; and this is now the sixth month for her who was
called barren. 37 For with God nothing will be impossible.”

Keep the faith.
196 posted on 02/25/2007 8:46:18 PM PST by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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