Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Greenpeace co-founder changes mind
American Thinker ^ | 2/23/07 | Thomas Lifson

Posted on 02/23/2007 9:20:47 AM PST by Tolkien

Patrick Moore, co-founder of Greenpeace, pens an op-ed in the New York Post endorsing the use of nuclear power, an enemy that the greenies fought tooth and nail for decades.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: globalwarminghoax; greenpeace; greenspirit; nuclearpower; patrickmoore
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-22 next last

1 posted on 02/23/2007 9:20:48 AM PST by Tolkien
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Tolkien

Patrick Moore has been off the reservation for a long time.


2 posted on 02/23/2007 9:23:08 AM PST by decimon
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Tolkien
"Greenie: Meet Flipper"

3 posted on 02/23/2007 9:24:00 AM PST by xcamel (Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Tolkien

Yet again, another liberal demonstrates that he was on the wrong side of history. Have liberals EVER been right about anything of historical significance?


4 posted on 02/23/2007 9:24:34 AM PST by Obadiah (Yes, I do question your patriotism.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: xcamel

Flipper was always Pro-Nuc (At least that's what I was told...)


5 posted on 02/23/2007 9:26:30 AM PST by eyedigress
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Tolkien
"Well, congratulations to Mr. Moore for honestly owning-up that environmental alarmism was wrong-headed."

There was (and is) a lot of alarmism concerning nuclear power.

There were also more unknowns, and actual problems with nuclear power a few decades ago. After Chernobyl people needed more proof that nuclear technology in the west was safer than in the USSR.

The nuclear power industry now has a good track record, and we have more advanced technologies -- many people are now ready to give nuclear power a chance.
6 posted on 02/23/2007 9:36:22 AM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Tolkien

Been waiting for this for a long time. If greens were ever serious about their arguments they should have been Nuclear Power supporters since day 1. But the green movement has been more about politics than environment.


7 posted on 02/23/2007 9:37:38 AM PST by seppel
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Tolkien

I'm all for this, especially if they invest heavily in fast breeder reactors. Breeder reactors can use U-238 and through neutron absorption and then subsequent beta decays, produces Pu-239 which is fissile. There is enough U-238 laying around in mill tailings to provide 100% of the entire U.S. power needs for the next 500 years. This removes the need for costly enrichment of U-235, commercial reactors typically need 3%-5% U-235. Naturally occurring uranium is 0.7% U-235 and about 93.2% U-238 with a little smattering of U-234.


8 posted on 02/23/2007 9:44:48 AM PST by rednesss
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: rednesss

redness, I have no idea what you just said, but it sounds great!


9 posted on 02/23/2007 9:47:57 AM PST by passionfruit
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: seppel
Been waiting for this for a long time.

Dr. Patrick Moore changed his mind a LONG time ago. He split from Greanpeace when he saw they weren't necessarily pro-environment anymore, but anti-capitalist. For a while he's been running an organization called Greenspirit that preaches sustainable development, a harmonization of the concerns of the environment and industry. He hates the unproductive confrontation and emotional rhetoric of the current econut movement, preferring cooperation and actual science, which is why he is also listed as a "Global Warming denier."

10 posted on 02/23/2007 10:01:22 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Tolkien
Anyone serious about lowering greenhouse gases (or whatever the frightening phrase of the week is) has to include Nuclear Energy in their discussion. Otherwise, they can "bug off, Commie!"
11 posted on 02/23/2007 10:02:42 AM PST by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Tolkien

"AS co-founder and former leader of Greenpeace, I once opposed nuclear energy. But times have changed, and new facts of compelling importance have emerged - and so my views have changed as well, as have those of a growing number of respected, independent environmentalists around the world...."

The information has been out there since the 1980's. Being increasingly exposed as fraudsters leeching off the public -- yes, times have changed -- of course you'll change your mind so as not to further confirm your frauds. 

12 posted on 02/23/2007 10:12:37 AM PST by Zon (Honesty outlives the lie, spin and deception -- It always has -- It always will.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Tolkien

Morons.


13 posted on 02/23/2007 10:12:37 AM PST by Red6 (Come and get it.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Tolkien

And we have her heinous trying to shut down Indian Point Nuclear Power Plant in New York.


14 posted on 02/23/2007 10:14:51 AM PST by OldFriend (Swiftboating - Sinking a politician's Ship of Fools by Torpedoes of Truth)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: passionfruit
What it means, is that without mining another ton of uranium ore, that there is enough U-238 already above ground and refined to provide 100% of the U.S. power needs taking into account a 5% increase every year for the next 500 years. The only stumbling block is the word Plutonium.

As a side note, if we would just reprocess out the uranium and plutonium from the spent fuel rods that are destined to be buried at Yucca Mountain in Nevada, then that could be used to provide power and not need to be sealed away for 3+ million years. It would really change the engineering requirements for Yucca Mountain.

15 posted on 02/23/2007 10:16:08 AM PST by rednesss
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: rednesss
There are two fissionable nuclear fuels, U-235, and Pu-239. U-235 is what makes enriched uranium, enriched. U-238 is what makes depleted uranium, depleted. Pu-239 is made from U-238.

If we would just start the process of recycling spent fuel rods again, we would decrease the amount of nuclear waste that has to be buried in Yucca Mountain. And recycling is good for the planet. :P

16 posted on 02/23/2007 11:01:04 AM PST by Frohickey
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: Tolkien

It's a bit late now. His stupidity and that of his friends have set back nuclear power in America by decades, wasted billions of gallons of oil, enriched the Arabs, empowered the terrorists, and polluted millions of leftist minds.

The Democrats in congress don't WANT to solve the energy crisis. It gives them a tool to bash the Republicans, and they aren't about to relinquish that tool.

This guy helped persuade the country to put an end to nuclear power, but I doubt very much that anyone will pay much attention to this reversal.


17 posted on 02/23/2007 11:05:40 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Frohickey

Don't forget Thorium. Th-232 through neutron absorption and subsequent decays produces U-233 which is fissile as well. And Thorium is more abundant than Uranium.


18 posted on 02/23/2007 11:07:00 AM PST by rednesss
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: Frohickey

Also if I read your comment correctly, yes U-235 and Pu-239 are fissionable. But fast breeder reactors utilize U-238 as a fuel source and "breed" Plutonium at rates that produce it faster than the reactor "burns" it. That's the advantage of breeder reactors, you don't need to enrich uranium as naturally occurring uranium is 99.3% U-238 right out of the ground.


19 posted on 02/23/2007 11:10:28 AM PST by rednesss
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: rednesss

Bump. And I actually knew that.


20 posted on 02/23/2007 11:17:55 AM PST by techcor
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-22 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson