Posted on 02/22/2007 7:09:41 AM PST by meg88
Former Mayor Rudy Giuliani got good and bad news from the Quinnipiac Poll.
The good news: He beats Senator Hillary Clinton, 48% to her 43% in a national poll conducted last week.
The bad news: It's still over 18 months to go until Election 2008.
Quinnipiac drilled down to the red, blue and purple state level: Giuliani beats Clinton 55-38 in states that voted Republican in the 2004 election.
Interestingly, he ties her 46-46 in the blue states, while it's close in "purple states" (where the "margin in 2004 was less than 7%) - Giuliani has 44% while Clinton has 45%. Here are some more matchups:
- Senator John McCain edges Clinton, 46 - 44 percent
- Clinton tops former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney 49 - 37 percent;
- Giuliani beats Illinois Sen. Barack Obama 47 - 40 percent;
- Giuliani tops 2004 vice presidential candidate John Edwards 48 - 40 percent;
- McCain ties Obama 43 - 43 percent;
- McCain gets 43 percent to Edward's 42 percent, a tie;
- Obama tops Romney 49 - 29 percent;
- Edwards beats Romney 48 - 32 percent.
Giuliani would win a Republican primary with 40% of Republican primary voters supporting him over McCain who would get just 18%, while Clinton would win a primary with 38% over Obama (23%). Furthermore, the Quinnipiac poll shows that Giuliani has the highest favorability rating of all candidates, with 57%, which Clinton has 46%, McCain has 51% and Obama has 44% (notably, 40% don't know enough about Obama to form an opinion.
Yesterday, Mayor Giuliani was campaigning in South Carolina. On the news last night, WNBC's Melissa Russo noted something unusual: While the crowds were very friendly to Giuliani, even reporters (from Southern papers) asked Giuliani to take pictures with him.
The post was in response to a specific premise raised in the post I was responding to: that those of us who oppose St. Rudy do so based soley on his position on abortion. That premise is false.
As for Hillary, I have no business, nor interest, in who the Democrat nominee is. I'm not a Democrat. Not a Republican, either. I'm an independent conservative.
And there's a great deal of difference in not being anti-gay, and being pro-gay. For example, Rudy's diktat, as Mayor, guaranteeing full benefits for same sex partners of city employees [at the expense of city taxpayers]. Showed his concern, like when he directed city agencies NOT to cooperate with the INS looking for illegals, or when he gave the PD the green light to revoke legitimately held gun licenses. That one went hand in hand with his lawsuit [one of first] against gun manufacturers. Capice?
If Rudy is chosen you have bowed down to the Media and given them what they want. Now back to what matters.
And a key issue there is pro-life Dem swing voters. Try to keep up.
At this stage, almost 11 months before the first primary polls are only good for one thing, strippers.
That nonsense doesn't work here, dude. I was out protesting the Clintons long before you showed up on FR. So was the owner of this website, and he's against Rudy. Wanna call him an agent of Hillary as well?
Polls now are meaningless, especially since a large number of pubbies think Rudy is pro-life.
"The Quinnipiac Poll tends to lean Democrat, so the news is probably even better for Rudy and the GOP. "
The fact that it leans democrat should tell you about rudy' support.
But hell, polls 22 months out must be based on substantive understanding of the positions of each candidate. Couldn't have anything to do with such petty little things as simple name recognition.
Try Ohio. They were a key component of the swing votes that won the state for Bush in 2004 - and put him over the top in the electoral college.
You are berating me and you don't even know the basics of how pro-life Catholic Dems vote in several NE and Upper Midwest battleground states.
"I no longer have any patience for people who cannot understand that sometimes you MUST compromise in order to get ANY of your agenda advanced."
So with rudy we're going to compromise 90% of our agenda in order to get 10% of it through?
That's the way to victory. In France.
Try history, such as 1992, when Bush drifted left and split the party. Rudy is not a drift leftward for the party, but a lurch.
Meanwhile, those same "meaningless' polls said Republicans will lose both Houses last November, and Republicans did.
I know this can be a difficult concept, but try to grasp it. The closer you get to an election, the more relevance polls have. 22 months is an eternity.
Impervious to facts, I see. You're a perfect Rudy booster, then.
That's the new definition of unappeasable.
You have not stated one fact that was relevant, and you call me deranged?
"I'd rather beat Hillary with Rudy than lose to her with Gingrich."
That should be on a bumper sticker, I might steal that.
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