Poll Shows Giuliani Love Across the Country (Rudy Beats All Dem Candidates by at Least 5%)

Gothamist.com ^ | 2.22.07 | Mary Ann Chastain

[PzLdr]

The post was in response to a specific premise raised in the post I was responding to: that those of us who oppose St. Rudy do so based soley on his position on abortion. That premise is false.

As for Hillary, I have no business, nor interest, in who the Democrat nominee is. I'm not a Democrat. Not a Republican, either. I'm an independent conservative.

And there's a great deal of difference in not being anti-gay, and being pro-gay. For example, Rudy's diktat, as Mayor, guaranteeing full benefits for same sex partners of city employees [at the expense of city taxpayers]. Showed his concern, like when he directed city agencies NOT to cooperate with the INS looking for illegals, or when he gave the PD the green light to revoke legitimately held gun licenses. That one went hand in hand with his lawsuit [one of first] against gun manufacturers. Capice?

[Paige]

If Rudy is chosen you have bowed down to the Media and given them what they want. Now back to what matters.

[ShawTaylor]

"Gawd, is it IMPOSSIBLE for you to stay on topic?"

Why don't ya tell that to yourself? You keep jumping all ver the place.

"The subject is the claim that Rudy could put PA in play. "

Nope.
The subject is the fact that Rudy is not only ahead n the red states, he is running neck and neck with The great Satan Hitekry in the Blue states as well. Go back to the start of this thread and read again will ya?


"You're either dense or obtuse on purpose here"

You are both obtuse and are a 5th columnist and an agent of Hitelry.


"Once again, please show how Rudy could atract pro-life PA Dems"

# 1. That is not the topic of this thread.
# 2. I don't have to show that seeing that rick Santoram was as pro-life as they come, and still lost.

[dirtboy]

The subject is the fact that Rudy is not only ahead n the red states, he is running neck and neck with The great Satan Hitekry in the Blue states as well. Go back to the start of this thread and read again will ya?

And a key issue there is pro-life Dem swing voters. Try to keep up.

[ShawTaylor]

"A Rudy-triggered GOP split would put a fair number into play."

No sign of that so far.
In fact Rudy has shown surprising strength in the red states,easily beating every RATS candidate.

[Hydroshock]

At this stage, almost 11 months before the first primary polls are only good for one thing, strippers.

[dirtboy]

You are both obtuse and are a 5th columnist and an agent of Hitelry.

That nonsense doesn't work here, dude. I was out protesting the Clintons long before you showed up on FR. So was the owner of this website, and he's against Rudy. Wanna call him an agent of Hillary as well?

[dirtboy]

In fact Rudy has shown surprising strength in the red states,easily beating every RATS candidate.

Polls now are meaningless, especially since a large number of pubbies think Rudy is pro-life.

[ShawTaylor]

"And a key issue there is pro-life Dem swing voters"

Pro-life RATS are a key issue?
Where at?
The RATS are in the majority in both Houses , and most of their candidates were pro-choice.

[flashbunny]

"The Quinnipiac Poll tends to lean Democrat, so the news is probably even better for Rudy and the GOP. "

The fact that it leans democrat should tell you about rudy' support.

But hell, polls 22 months out must be based on substantive understanding of the positions of each candidate. Couldn't have anything to do with such petty little things as simple name recognition.

[dirtboy]

Pro-life RATS are a key issue?

Try Ohio. They were a key component of the swing votes that won the state for Bush in 2004 - and put him over the top in the electoral college.

You are berating me and you don't even know the basics of how pro-life Catholic Dems vote in several NE and Upper Midwest battleground states.

[ShawTaylor]

"Polls now are meaningless"

If polls are "meaningless", on what do you base your assertion that Rudy will split the Republican Party and but the red states into play?
Meanwhile, those same "meaningless' polls said Republicans will lose both Houses last November, and Republicans did.

[ShawTaylor]

"Try Ohio"

Naaah.
I will try the RATS majorities in the House and Senate, with most RATS congressmen being pro-choice.

[flashbunny]

"I no longer have any patience for people who cannot understand that sometimes you MUST compromise in order to get ANY of your agenda advanced."

So with rudy we're going to compromise 90% of our agenda in order to get 10% of it through?

That's the way to victory. In France.

[dirtboy]

If polls are "meaningless", on what do you base your assertion that Rudy will split the Republican Party and but the red states into play?

Try history, such as 1992, when Bush drifted left and split the party. Rudy is not a drift leftward for the party, but a lurch.

Meanwhile, those same "meaningless' polls said Republicans will lose both Houses last November, and Republicans did.

I know this can be a difficult concept, but try to grasp it. The closer you get to an election, the more relevance polls have. 22 months is an eternity.

[dirtboy]

I will try the RATS majorities in the House and Senate, with most RATS congressmen being pro-choice

Impervious to facts, I see. You're a perfect Rudy booster, then.

[ShawTaylor]

"That nonsense doesn't work here, dude"

And your deranged spewings do?

[dirtboy]

So with rudy we're going to compromise 90% of our agenda in order to get 10% of it through?

That's the new definition of unappeasable.

[dirtboy]

And your deranged spewings do?

You have not stated one fact that was relevant, and you call me deranged?

[ClarenceThomasfan]

"I'd rather beat Hillary with Rudy than lose to her with Gingrich."

That should be on a bumper sticker, I might steal that.