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A Field Guide to Rudy Boosters - Introduction
2/20/2007 | dirtboy tory peterson

Posted on 02/20/2007 7:25:29 PM PST by dirtboy

Political observers are falling over themselves trying to determine the cladistics of a newly-emergent population of political animal, the Rudy booster. This appears to be the first new species of Republican to emerge in over two decades in the Family Republicanae (the last being Conservatisi reagani), and displays a particularly odd range of behaviors that call into question the long-term political viability of the new species, as well as that of Republicanae in general if they assume a position of dominance.

Some observers have proposed classifying the new population as a subspecies of Rinous rockefelleri, whereas others have made a fairly convincing case that the new species properly belongs within the Family Democratus and the genus/species of Scoopjacksonae liebermani - an endangered group of pro-war liberals with otherwise no conservative positions, hunted nearly to extinction by the more rabid Friedhippybrainous deaniaci. But for now, they will will treated as a separate species within Rinous.

In this field guide, we will discuss the observed talking points to date of the Rudy boosters as a means to understanding their behavior in the wild, whether those are calls of alarm, anger, deception or delusion, and what those mean for making a proper and clinical determination of whether this is just a subspecies displaying new liberal tendencies is truly an emergent new species, perhaps due to geographic isolation in the liberal Northeast.

For example, take the now-commonly-heard talking point that Rudy can beat Hillary. This talking point does display anger and deception tendencies at times (especially when the Rudy booster is getting hammered on other subjects), but should properly be placed into the delusion category, given that Giuliani never outpolled Hillary during the 2000 NY Senate race even though he was the sitting mayor and she was a carpetbagger with cankles that would send Godzilla screaming back into the ocean, never to return.

And this talking point shows the precarious nature of the Rudy booster's existence - namely, that they believe that their candidate can hold together the GOP despite the lessons of 1992. That Rudy can pull in key pro-life Catholic Dem swing voters despite getting awards from NARAL. And that a pro-war candidate can survive if he strikes out leftward in search of votes into regions that are increasingly antiwar.

Interested observers are encouraged to post their observations of talking points and opinions as to the proper cladistics for Rudy boosters. This field guide will initially be organized topically and also by electoral strategy, although that could change if the behavior of Rudy boosters continues to grow more irrational and erratic.

Next chapter - how to get Rudy boosters shrieking like howler monkeys - bring up the 2nd Amendment


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To: dirtboy
an endangered group of pro-war liberals with otherwise no conservative positions

And yet, through some twisted congnitive dissonance, they call the rest of us "one-issue voters".

101 posted on 02/21/2007 5:56:22 AM PST by Sloth (The GOP is to DemonRats in politics as Michael Jackson is to Jeffrey Dahmer in babysitting.)
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To: dirtboy

Original Genus Julianus ala Prehistoric

102 posted on 02/21/2007 6:23:51 AM PST by TheeOhioInfidel (ATTENTION: DUNCAN HUNTER WOULD PARDON THE TEXAS 3.)
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To: Blackirish

"When push comes to shove red states will go with Rudy."

Have you ever been to a red state?


103 posted on 02/21/2007 6:47:21 AM PST by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: Blackirish
...Then what are you guys so worried about? Why spend so much time disparaging Rudy when he doesn't have a chance? Once the voters really truly, really, truly get to know Rudy he won't have a chance. Post after post hour after hour..no life at all ...no girl...no dog ...no food...just RudyHating. Don't you know the polls are all MSM rigged? Then why all the Flop Sweating from the RudyHaters?...

Again... THINGS ARE CHANGING!... mostly because of communications (Internet). For instance, the Internet, like a magnifying lens, is allowing me to see everything CLOSER! I knew I as "Republican," but I really did not know how DIFFERENT we were until now... Sometimes I wonder if we social conservatives should be in the same party with the Guliani crowd. I can't believe our core principles are so different from them. Besides social issues, I can relate to the Gun issues, fiscal issues... and a host of other issues but NEVER at the price of SOCIAL ISSUES. Because the moment we become like the Rats. Let me specific, if we no longer mind having the Republican party full of QUEERS... and ABORTIONS for everybody... Then what is the point of being Republicans for us social conservatives?

I just never realized that some people's main values are what? "Fiscan-Restrain /s" ?

By the way, I DON'T BUY the argument that Rudy is a CHAMPION OF NATIONAL SECURITY or the MOST FISCAL CONSERVATIVE in the world /s. This is all B.S. a SMOKE SCREEN, to "get him through" somehow and bamboozled the conservatives into voting for him!

The point is, the Internet also help us social conservatives to get to know ourselves AS A GROUP, and realize that we are SOCIAL CONSERVATIVES FIRST, and Republican second. If the GOP, does not serve us, then we no NO business being in this party.. That is the bottom line. Something to THINK ABOUT... is either that or SELLING OUR PRINCIPLES OUT... So what's it going to be?

Sorry for the English... I am rushing! :)

104 posted on 02/21/2007 6:48:58 AM PST by ElPatriota (Duncan Hunter 08 & Let's not forget, we are all still friends, basically :) despite our differences)
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To: dirtboy

Heh. :-)


105 posted on 02/21/2007 6:52:32 AM PST by B Knotts (Newt '08!)
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To: dirtboy

Very good dirtboy! Thanks for the ping! BTTT.


106 posted on 02/21/2007 7:03:21 AM PST by beltfed308 (Democrats :Tough on Taxpayers, Soft on Terrorism)
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To: dirtboy

OK, keep practicing then, 'cause you aren't ready to take over Ann Coulter's job. Have you considered trying over-the-top satire like Scrappleface?


107 posted on 02/21/2007 7:04:52 AM PST by No.6 (www.fourthfightergroup.com)
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To: dirtboy; Spiff; Sir Francis Dashwood; beltfed308; jla; TommyDale

The San Franciso Rudy rooters are getting ready
to put their boy over the top in California. But
what will Rudy wear?

109 posted on 02/21/2007 11:26:24 AM PST by Liz (Hunter: For some candidates, a conservative constituency is an inconvenience. For me, it is my hope.)
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To: aligncare
Your mocking tone is similar to whistling past the graveyard. Try making intellectual arguments...you might then be taken serious.

I replied in the spirit of the original post. I didn't intend it to be taken as a serious intellectual argument. There's plenty of that going on in other threads.

110 posted on 02/21/2007 3:25:17 PM PST by etlib (No creature without tentacles has ever developed true intelligence)
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To: etlib
Point taken.

It is telling, however, that so many have resorted to launching attacks on Rudy Giuliani - rather than making arguments in support of their own candidate of choice.
111 posted on 02/21/2007 6:23:32 PM PST by aligncare (Beware the Media-Industrial Complex!)
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To: ElPatriota

Hint: One post of the your collage per thread. 3 is getting rough on the eyes.


112 posted on 02/21/2007 6:43:01 PM PST by muleskinner
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To: The Danger is Near

look at the figures on white evangelicals, the social conservative base that makes up the people who are most upset with Rudy - Bush did far better with them in 2004 then he did in 2000. I don't see any evidence that the base "walked" on Bush in 2004, quite the contrary.


113 posted on 02/21/2007 6:46:44 PM PST by oceanview
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

sure, the metro suburbs are full of those people you describe.

some of the highest income americans live in the suburbs close to the metroplexes.


114 posted on 02/21/2007 6:49:37 PM PST by oceanview
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To: Liz

Feelin a little FLOP SWEAT with Rudy's high poll numbers??


115 posted on 02/21/2007 6:51:52 PM PST by Blackirish
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To: aligncare
It is telling, however, that so many have resorted to launching attacks on Rudy Giuliani

I am not against Rudy Giuliani. However I am unlikely to vote for him in the primary. Whether or not I vote for him in the general election depends upon how he addresses some key (for me) issues. I will not vote for a Democrat (I think that's dumb) nor will I abstain from voting but, as should be obvious from other comments I have made, I will vote third party if that candidate better represents my views than the Republican candidate.

Finally, I believe a more conservative candidate has a better chance of winning the general election than Giuliani.

117 posted on 02/21/2007 9:34:47 PM PST by etlib (No creature without tentacles has ever developed true intelligence)
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To: muleskinner

I agree, it was a mistake.


118 posted on 02/21/2007 9:44:15 PM PST by ElPatriota (Duncan Hunter 08 & Let's not forget, we are all still friends, basically :) despite our differences)
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To: etlib
I respect your position. It's everyone's duty to vote their conscience.

I just saw an interview with Governor Haily Barber. He said that four years ago Rudy Giuliani came to Mississippi to campaign for him and was well received by social conservatives. In fact, said Barber, they lined up to shake his hand.
119 posted on 02/22/2007 5:30:20 AM PST by aligncare (Beware the Media-Industrial Complex!)
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To: dirtboy
Please detail just HOW and WHERE Rudy will get the votes to replace any lost social conservatives. Specifics, please, not generalities.

For a post full of nothing but generalities (half-fried at that) you are in no position to demand specifics from anyone, but just so you don't go away and sulk, here is a specific answer from a Democrat:

35k% of the Democrat males abhor Clinton and you'd better believe every male Democrat Senator will publically support HRC after February and then promptly vote for anyone else. Those of us to the left on social issues and hard right on national defense will vote for Giuliani or McCain.

The fringe right which you represent will get no one from the Democrat middle...none...nada...ziltch...zero.

120 posted on 02/22/2007 5:52:44 AM PST by harrowup (I invite Gore to solve the Hillary-Barack problem by announcing in August...)
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