Posted on 02/18/2007 4:12:23 PM PST by Jim Robinson
I don't know about you, but I doubt the Christian conservatives throughout the red state farm belt and especially down in the South are going to cotton to a liberal New York Yankee coming down to try to clean up crime by taking their guns and bringing abortion and gay unions (gay marriage) into their families, schools and churches.
You know he dont look too bad in a dress either LOL
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Gosh. Now you have called me a name.
Does that help my side, or yours?
GOVERNORS. When was the last time a Rep was elected President? Ever?
Rudy's got a Governor-like record, and higher name recognition/positives than anyone else.
So he looks good so far.
I believe Rudi said he is personally against abortion. Please post facts.
Well, Jim, I'm a conservative Southern Baptist (in Fla.), oppose gun control, want Roe overruled, and oppose gay rights. But I'm voting for Giuliani.
>>>> In summation----let me explain the antipathy to Rudy you are seeing here on FR. Most of us are merely treating Rudy's 2008 candidacy the way he's treated unborn children-------as a disposable nuisance.
BUMP
I'm sure they'd be more than happy to listen to what you have to say Jim. You'd be unlikely to encounter a solitary soul at church who'd get combative over it. Hell, I'm trying extra hard to make sure that I'm not being combative.
I was just pointing out that instantly dismissing evangelicals as being against Rudy is a false premise. I attend an evangelical church, and I'm solidly in the Giuliani camp. Seems like most of us at church are these days. I just wanted you to know.
Yes. And I could give you a long dissertation on the compromises by our "leaders," over a long period of time, that have led us to this pass.
One of the ways you can tell the difference between someone who is part of the problem and someone who is part of the solution is whether they think the word "compromise" has a primarily positive or a negative connotation.
Speaking of Govenors I would vote my DEM govenor way before Id vote for Rudy.
Hes so much farther to the right than Rudy, he makes Rudy look like nazi pelosi!
I don't see how anyone who calls themselves "conservative" could support Rudy.....Rudy is clearly a RINO....fiscal conservative maybe, but he's a blatant Social Liberal....sorry but I could never vote for him
My God, what is it with you guys? I mean, I am sure Duncan Hunter is a good US House Rep, but when even conservatives like me have to say "Duncan WHO?" you know that he has a snow-balls chance in hell of being elected.
If the primaries were to be held next month, you'd have a point. More people are finding out about him everyday. If you just want someone with name recognition, let's see if we can get Paris Hilton to promise to be agressive with on the WOT and run her.
And then in late 2003/early 2004, Dean was going to run away with it.
Reformed Presbyterian-PCA, evangelical, social conservative, pro-life, pro 2nd amend., pro-family bttt!!!!
You sound like a DU plant on this thread, I must say...
"There are around 5 to 10 million of these guys out there."
...and I am one of them! Read my tag line.
Brilliant.
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as I posted above, they want to leave the party in a catch-22 - many will stay home (I believe it), and the party might see that they can not win without them, but they also cannot win with ONLY them. how do you cater to a base, that can't win you the Presidency on its own, but refuses to be part of a coalition that can?
I don't know the answer to that.
Oh for cryin out loud how kerryesque. I had to listen to that crap for months from the folks in my parish "but hes personally against it" BAH!
He may be saying that now, but in the past he stated he would personally PAY for an abortion for his daughter. His highly praised by NARAL. im sure someone has a link for you here.
Anything he says now is just pandering, soft peddling or out right flip flopping.
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