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Giuliani's problem with the religious [large graphics]

Posted on 02/18/2007 4:12:23 PM PST by Jim Robinson

I don't know about you, but I doubt the Christian conservatives throughout the red state farm belt and especially down in the South are going to cotton to a liberal New York Yankee coming down to try to clean up crime by taking their guns and bringing abortion and gay unions (gay marriage) into their families, schools and churches.



TOPICS: Politics/Elections; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: demographics; elections; giuliani; rudy; rudy2008
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To: Graybeard58

161 posted on 02/18/2007 5:14:55 PM PST by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: M. Thatcher

I'm not the mobster. :)


162 posted on 02/18/2007 5:14:58 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: LdSentinal

I'm not diputing that frontrunners sometimes get the nomination, I'm simply saying they often don't.


163 posted on 02/18/2007 5:15:15 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: LtdGovt

Go away. I think you're a rudy plant.


164 posted on 02/18/2007 5:15:26 PM PST by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: Enosh

LOL


165 posted on 02/18/2007 5:15:31 PM PST by OMalley (HAPPY BIRTHDAY MOM!!!!! Just say NO to Rudy "Tootsie" Giuliani-GO Duncan Hunter 08:))
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To: Al Simmons
"like me have to say "Duncan WHO?" "

Jimmy who? Bill who?

166 posted on 02/18/2007 5:15:50 PM PST by MSF BU
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To: wagglebee

True enough, and Joe Lieberman was the Dem frontrunner for 2004.


167 posted on 02/18/2007 5:16:00 PM PST by LdSentinal
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To: radar101

The man I would be proud to vote for.


168 posted on 02/18/2007 5:16:21 PM PST by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: radar101
Duncan Hunter Bump!
169 posted on 02/18/2007 5:16:23 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: MSF BU

They were governors, not a congressman.


170 posted on 02/18/2007 5:16:47 PM PST by LdSentinal
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To: Al Simmons
"No. Its simply an acknowledgement that today there are NO Democrats (at least where I live) that I could support in my wildest dreams."

On God, Guns, and Gays Rudy is the carbon copy of Hillary and most other far leftists.

I wont vote for evil!
171 posted on 02/18/2007 5:17:10 PM PST by Beagle8U (Jimmy Carter changed me into a Republican.......R. W. Reagan made me DAMN proud of it!)
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To: Al Simmons
I've read RET's latest column.
You need to retract your attribution to RET in post #33. Perhaps attribute it to the Freeper whom who copied it from?
172 posted on 02/18/2007 5:17:13 PM PST by jla
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To: Jim Robinson

How about we draft you to run?


173 posted on 02/18/2007 5:17:13 PM PST by cabojoe (WHO'S THE DADDY?)
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To: Graybeard58
As long as it isn't Bugs Bunny.

Johnny Bravo for President!


174 posted on 02/18/2007 5:17:24 PM PST by Enosh (†)
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To: Enosh
You think you're being "nice?" How Clintonesque.

"naughty," "nice," and "Clintonesque" are all your words and characterizations, ace.

If you believe yourself to be naughty and me nice I'm not going to argue. But you're the one who came up with that, not me.

175 posted on 02/18/2007 5:17:27 PM PST by M. Thatcher
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To: Jim Robinson

Thank you Jim!


176 posted on 02/18/2007 5:17:53 PM PST by Zack Nguyen
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To: processing please hold
Me and mine will stay home if he's nominated, that's a fact. I will not vote for an anti-gun, pro-gay union (marriage), pro-abortion candidate. You don't like that, then that's your problem, deal with it.

I merely pointed out the fact that, hypothetically, if Rudy wins the nomination, that simply means your pet candidate LOST. You had your chance to take out Rudy in the primaries and FAILED.

When it boils down to it, the no-brainer choice is to go with Rudy. Go ahead and form your little 3rd conservative party or vote for the LP or CP or stay home, but I'll be more than happy to vote for Rudy in the general.

177 posted on 02/18/2007 5:18:14 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Good night Chesty, wherever you are!)
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To: Graybeard58
Ewwwww, gross.

Maybe Mickey Mouse. :-)

178 posted on 02/18/2007 5:19:13 PM PST by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: M. Thatcher; Jim Robinson; jla; Spiff; TommyDale; beltfed308; Condor51; Reagan Man; ...
M. Thatcher posted: Conservative Baptist, evangelical, pro-life, lifetime NRA member, social conservative Rudy supporter here.

No kidding? You're pro-life, M. Thatcher? And a Rudy rooter?

Then you must have been in seventh heaven when NARAL honored your boy Rudy as guest speaker, when Rudy made The Opening Remarks to the N.A.R.A.L. "Champions of Choice" Luncheon a few years back.

And, as a pro-lifer, you must have been in ecstasy when NARAL donated exclusively to Democrat candidates with one exception----your boy Rudy Giuliani.

As a pro-lifer, your joy must have been complete when Giuliani accepted $1,000 from NARAL PAC in 1999. When NARAL gave $250 to Hillary Rodham Clinton. WHen NARAL gave $1000---4 times as much-----to pro-abortion Giuliani (From the FEC database: 04/24/1999 Donations NEW YORK STATE NARAL INC WOMEN'S HEALTH PAC)

As a pro-lifer, you must be overjoyed that NARAL trusted your boy Rudy's pro-abortion credentials, and Rudy's willingness to advance NARAL's radical abortion-on-demand agenda, even more than NARAL trusted Hillary.

As a pro-lifer, I am sure your are so very happy that your boy Rudy is not just "pro-abortion," Rudy is joined at the hip to the most radical pro-abortion elements---NARAL, Planned Parenthood and the rest of the abortion-on-demand-with-the-govt-picking-up-the-tab crowd.

As a pro-lifer, you must have clapped your hands with glee when Giuliani used his Mayoral term to advance abortion EVEN THOUGH, AS MAYOR, HE HAD NO LEGISLATIVE OR OFFICIAL MANDATE TO DO DO SO.

Could you please tell us how happy you were, M. Thatcher---as a pro-lifer---when in a CNN interview, Giuliani indicated he does not support even a modest ban on the gruesome partial-birth abortion procedure saying, "No, I have not supported that, and I don't see my position on that changing." Giuliani also indicated he would have upheld President Clinton's veto of the partial-birth abortion ban.

As a pro-lifer, it must have been a kick for you when Mayor Rudy told Phil Donahue he'd give his daughter the money for an abortion (to get rid of his own grandchild).

As a pro-lifer, how proud you must be of your boy Rudy that NARAL and company are planning to move forward to expand abortion to unknown dimensions. Partial birth abortion? If Rudy is elected, you ain't seen nuttin' yet.

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In summation----let me explain the antipathy to Rudy you are seeing here on FR. Most of us are merely treating Rudy's 2008 candidacy the way he's treated unborn children-------as a disposable nuisance.

179 posted on 02/18/2007 5:19:41 PM PST by Liz (Nearly all men can stand adversity, but to test a man's character, give him power. Abe Lincoln)
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To: Calpernia
I'm not the mobster. :)

So you claim.

180 posted on 02/18/2007 5:20:26 PM PST by M. Thatcher
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