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Trolley Square: A search for answers (Utah mall shooter attended nearby mosque)
The Salt Lake Tribune ^ | 02/15/2007 | Nate Carlisle

Posted on 02/15/2007 2:29:41 PM PST by PapaBear3625

[snip] Although he quit school at 16, Sulejman Talovic often attended Friday prayers at the Al-Noor mosque on 700 East in Salt Lake City,[ a block away from the mall] said Salih Omerovic, Ajka's cousin.

Salih Omerovic said the young man stopped coming to the prayers in December, when he landed a full-time job at Aramark Uniform Services in South Salt Lake. He said Sulejman Talovic's father had pressured his son to get a job to help out with the family's living expenses.

Imam Ali Mohamed, the spiritual leader at Al-Noor, said he does not know Talovic.

"I know some Bosnians, but specifically this person, I don't know him," said Mohamed, a Somali who has been in Utah since 2000.

(Excerpt) Read more at sltrib.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: Utah; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alnoormosque; mall; shooting; sjs; suddenjihadsyndrome; trolleysquare; utah
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The interesting part is that this mosque had another story on it (hat tip to poster on LittleGreenFootballs) last month about an imam who had been removed (and has disappeared) who :
The relative said the abrupt departure - one that left the imam "in shock" - was driven by something more than his marital issues. The imam, the relative said, had recently raised concerns about board finances, the exclusion of women from the board and the housing of "suspicious" individuals in the mosque.

1 posted on 02/15/2007 2:29:44 PM PST by PapaBear3625
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To: PapaBear3625

Seriously, though, it would be nice to find out how much of a role Islam played in his motive.

2 posted on 02/15/2007 2:33:08 PM PST by batter (formerly known as "soccer8")
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To: silverleaf

ping


3 posted on 02/15/2007 2:34:47 PM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: PapaBear3625

The earlier story is rife with irony. How can it be domestic abuse if the Koran says it's alright to beat the hell out of your wife? How bad did the imam have to be that the OTHER MUSLIMS were offended enough to get rid of him? Who were the suspicious people he was letting stay in the mosque and where are they now? How suspicious do you have to be for other Muslims to alert on you? And what is this character up to in Chicago? Sounds like the authorities should have installed a Low-Jack in the guy before he left town.


4 posted on 02/15/2007 2:35:43 PM PST by 3AngelaD (ic.)
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To: PapaBear3625
Salih Omerovic said the young man stopped coming to the prayers in December, when he landed a full-time job at Aramark Uniform Services in South Salt Lake

Wonder if they're missing any police uniforms.

5 posted on 02/15/2007 2:35:44 PM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: PapaBear3625
Here's a more recent story about the imam (Shuaib-ud Din) you referenced:

Religious figure arrested - Note the paper didn't put 'Muslim' in the title.
I guarantee you if it were a Catholic Priest or Mormon Bishop etc things would be different.

Note: I don't think Sulejman Talovic attended the Din's mosque (Khadeeja Mosque in West Valley City).

If you wish, run a search on "Din" at the SL Trib's Search Page

6 posted on 02/15/2007 2:41:15 PM PST by batter (formerly known as "soccer8")
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To: PapaBear3625

Every time the democrats want to bring up gun control, something like this conveniently happens. I wonder if there is a connection.


7 posted on 02/15/2007 2:45:13 PM PST by aomagrat (Let not your heart be troubled: Ye believe in God, believe ye also in gunboats.)
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To: PapaBear3625
"With the permission of Talovic's parents, detectives searched their home but did not take any computers or video games, she said."

Well I sure hope they copied his hard drive(s) to go through his emails and download files, etc. or else this is a bogus investigation. A real investigation would need to examine all his web and email activity in great detail to see if he was in touch with any jihadist websites, etc.
8 posted on 02/15/2007 2:47:10 PM PST by Enchante (Chamberlain Democrats embraced by terrorists and America-haters worldwide!!)
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To: PapaBear3625

In these threatening times, one has to see the identifier, "muslim," with a red flag attached. Perhaps, his problems were personal and secret, but, perhaps, his actions were motivated by something more current and more sinister. Has anyone ever done a study of muslim brains? Could there be something seriously amiss with them? Is it possible that they could and, maybe, should be classified as incompetent or insane?


9 posted on 02/15/2007 2:48:19 PM PST by Continental Soldier
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To: batter

"Round up the usual suspects."


10 posted on 02/15/2007 2:49:21 PM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: PapaBear3625
From this link...

Deseret News hits "ultraconservative" websites for suggesting Salt Lake shooting was jihad-motivated

There is no record that Talovic attended any of the mosques in the Salt Lake area, according to both Tarek Mosseir, a spokesman for the Islamic Society of Greater Salt Lake, or Bobby Ravish of Muslim Forum.

Gee, I hope the LEOs didn't take their word for it.

11 posted on 02/15/2007 2:50:10 PM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: Continental Soldier
Could there be something seriously amiss with them? Is it possible that they could and, maybe, should be classified as incompetent or insane?

Oh, it couldn't be anything like that. By all means marry nieces, marry them at Age 11! It's perfectly normal. Do it generation after generation, and everyone will be fine..

12 posted on 02/15/2007 2:54:58 PM PST by Gorzaloon (Global Warming: A New Kind Of Scientology for the Rest Of Us.)
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To: 3AngelaD
Sounds like the authorities should have installed a Low-Jack in the guy before he left town.

There isn't enough FBI living or dead to keep an eye on the activities of Muslims in this country. A rough estimate of 8 million would leave you with about 700,000 who could 'blow' at any time... and another 2 million who would 'dummy-up' for them.

13 posted on 02/15/2007 2:59:38 PM PST by johnny7 ("We took a hell of a beating." -'Vinegar Joe' Stilwell)
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To: Gorzaloon

The more I see of Islam's followers, I am convinced they are
doomed to be violent, intractable, and generally unfit to
live among civil societies.


14 posted on 02/15/2007 3:05:11 PM PST by jusduat (I am a strange and recurring anomaly)
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To: mewzilla
The funny thing is the Des News considers itself the 'conservative paper'. LOL! If I had to choose between the two SL papers (and I don't), I would pick the SL Trib. At least they don't attempt to portray themselves as something they're not. Speaking of which. Check out who the Trib cartoonist blames for the shooting:

Today
Yesterday

Never realized a gun could influence anyone or shoot itself. I always thought they were just objects like rocks...maybe rocks and knives also are the culprit for murders. I guess guns, not heroic cops, ended the shooting spree.

15 posted on 02/15/2007 3:05:18 PM PST by batter (formerly known as "soccer8")
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To: batter
Leftist believe in the power of inanimate objects. Obviously a metal gun, with it's bad ju-ju causes shootings. Steven King, the lefty, wrote about killer cars. Leftist believe a shack, a hovel like Lincoln, and hundreds of millions of Americians grew up in, causes poverty. That's why they have to build public housing palaces. It's the materials. Kind of like how all government buildings have to be temple palaces, otherwise....kids won't learn their multicult.

Material things. Forces. Childhood events. Forty year old post traumatic male dominated patriarchal capitalistic force.
16 posted on 02/15/2007 3:16:57 PM PST by Leisler (REAL ENVIRONMENTALISTS WALK.)
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To: jusduat
The more I see of Islam's followers, I am convinced they are doomed to be violent, intractable, and generally unfit to live among civil societies.

Maybe they just need Rabies Vaccinations.

17 posted on 02/15/2007 3:25:47 PM PST by Gorzaloon (Global Warming: A New Kind Of Scientology for the Rest Of Us.)
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To: Leisler; All
Look over here: Terror At Trolley Square, SLC [Home Video with AUDIO OF SHOUTS OF "ALLAH AKBAR"]

I'm still trying to view the video site must be getting tons of hits) - I can't confirm the Allah Akbar stuff.

18 posted on 02/15/2007 3:37:41 PM PST by batter (formerly known as "soccer8")
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To: PapaBear3625

I think the LDS beliefs are closer to the Religion of Peace than Christianity or Judaism.


19 posted on 02/15/2007 3:38:40 PM PST by ArtyFO (I love to smoke cigars when I adjust artillery fire at the moonbat loonery.)
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To: PapaBear3625
There's a bit of dissembling going on:

"...Sulejman Talovic often attended Friday prayers at the Al-Noor mosque on 700 East in Salt Lake City, said Salih Omerovic, Ajka's cousin."

But in the Deseret Morning News (which is doing a heroic job to dismiss the Muslim connection), Talovic is said to be not much of a Muslim:

"...There is no record that Talovic attended any of the mosques in the Salt Lake area, according to both Tarek Mosseir, a spokesman for the Islamic Society of Greater Salt Lake, or Bobby Ravish of Muslim Forum.... "What I hear is that he came a couple of times at most, to Eid prayers, but I can't confirm that he came."

20 posted on 02/15/2007 3:46:56 PM PST by angkor
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