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House Democrats' New Strategy: Force Slow End to War (Slow-bleed Defeat)
Politco.com ^ | 2-14-07 | John Bresnahan

Posted on 02/14/2007 11:16:47 AM PST by smoothsailing

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House Democrats' New Strategy: Force Slow End to War By: John Bresnahan February 14, 2007 01:06 PM EST

Top House Democrats, working in concert with anti-war groups, have decided against using congressional power to force a quick end to U.S. involvement in Iraq, and instead will pursue a slow-bleed strategy designed to gradually limit the administration's options.

Led by Rep. John P. Murtha, D-Pa., and supported by several well-funded anti-war groups, the coalition's goal is to limit or sharply reduce the number of U.S. troops available for the Iraq conflict, rather than to openly cut off funding for the war itself.

The legislative strategy will be supplemented by a multimillion-dollar TV ad campaign designed to pressure vulnerable GOP incumbents into breaking with President Bush and forcing the administration to admit that the war is politically unsustainable.

As described by participants, the goal is crafted to circumvent the biggest political vulnerability of the anti-war movement -- the accusation that it is willing to abandon troops in the field. That fear is why many Democrats have remained timid in challenging Bush, even as public support for the president and his Iraq policies have plunged.

Murtha and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., have decided that they must take the lead in pressuring not only Republicans but also cautious Senate Democrats to take steps more aggressive than nonbinding resolutions in challenging the Bush administration.

The House strategy is being crafted quietly, even as the chamber is immersed this week in an emotional, albeit mostly symbolic, debate over a resolution expressing opposition to Bush's plan to "surge" 21,500 more troops into Iraq.

NPR's Interview with Rep. Murtha

Murtha, the powerful chairman of the defense subcommittee of the House Appropriations Committee, will seek to attach a provision to an upcoming $93 billion supplemental spending bill for Iraq and Afghanistan. It would restrict the deployment of troops to Iraq unless they meet certain levels adequate manpower, equipment and training to succeed in combat. That's a standard Murtha believes few of the units Bush intends to use for the surge would be able to meet.

In addition, Murtha, acting with the backing of the House Democratic leadership, will seek to limit the time and number of deployments by soldiers, Marines and National Guard units to Iraq, making it tougher for Pentagon officials to find the troops to replace units that are scheduled to rotate out of the country. Additional funding restrictions are also being considered by Murtha, such as prohibiting the creation of U.S. military bases inside Iraq, dismantling the notorious Abu Ghraib prison and closing the American detention facility in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

"There's a D-Day coming in here, and it's going to start with the supplemental and finish with the '08 [defense] budget," said Rep. Neil Abercrombie, D-Hawaii, who chairs the Air and Land Forces subcommittee of the House Armed Services Committee.

Pelosi and other top Democrats are not yet prepared for an open battle with the White House over ending funding for the war, and they are wary of Republican claims that Democratic leaders would endanger the welfare of U.S. troops. The new approach of first reducing the number of troops available for the conflict, while maintaining funding levels for units already in the field, gives political cover to conservative House Democrats who are nervous about appearing "anti-military" while also mollifying the anti-war left, which has long been agitating for Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., to be more aggressive.

"What we have staked out is a campaign to stop the war without cutting off funding" for the troops, said Tom Mazzie of Americans Against Escalation of the War in Iraq. "We call it the 'readiness strategy.'"

Murtha's proposal, which has been kept under tight wraps, is likely to pass the House next month or in early April as part of the supplemental spending bill, Democratic insiders said, if the language remains tightly focused and does not threaten funding levels for combat forces already in the field. The battle will then shift to the Senate. Anti-war groups like Mazzie's are prepared to spend at least $6.5 million on a TV ad campaign and at least $2 million more on a grass-roots lobbying effort. Vulnerable GOP incumbents like Sens. Norm Coleman of Minnestoa, Susan Collins of Maine, Gordon Smith of Oregon and John Sununu of New Hampshire will be targeted by the anti-war organizations, according to Mazzie and former Rep. Tom Andrews, D-Maine, head of the Win Without War Coalition.

Mazzie also said anti-war groups would field primary and general election challengers to Democratic lawmakers who do not support proposals to end the war, a direct challenge to conservative incumbents who are attempting to straddle the political line between their pro- and anti-war constituents.

If the Senate does not approve these new funding restrictions, or if Senate Republicans filibuster the supplemental bill, Pelosi and the House Democratic leadership would then be able to ratchet up the political pressure on the White House to accede to their demands by "slow-walking" the supplemental bill. Additionally, House Democrats could try to insert the Murtha provisions into the fiscal 2008 defense authorization and spending bills, which are scheduled to come to the floor later in the year.

"We will set benchmarks for readiness," said a top Democratic leadership aide, speaking on the condition of anonymity. If enacted, these provisions would have the effect of limiting the number of troops available for the Bush surge plan, while blunting the GOP charge that Democrats are cutting funding for the troops. "We are not cutting funding for any [unit] in Iraq," said the aide, who admitted the Democratic maneuver would not prevent the president from sending some additional forces to Baghdad. "We want to limit the number who can go ... We're trying to build a case that the president needs to change course."

Mazzie, though, suggested that Democrats ought to directly rebut the Republican charge that Democrats are threatening the safety of American forces in the field by pushing restrictions on war funding. "Cutting off funding as described by the media and White House is a caricature," Mazzie said. "It has never happened in U.S. history, and it won't happen now."

Andrews, who met with Murtha on Tuesday to discuss legislative strategy, acknowledged "there is a relationship" with the House Democratic leadership and the anti-war groups, but added, "It is important for our members that we not be seen as an arm of the Democratic Caucus or the Democratic Party. We're not hand in glove."

Andrews's group has launched a new Web site, MoveCongress.org, and he has already posted an interview with Rep. Lynn Woolsey, D-Calif., one of the founders of the "Out of Iraq Caucus" in the House. An interview with Murtha on his legislative strategy will be posted on the site Thursday.

"I don't know how you vote against Murtha," said Andrews. "It's kind of an ingenious thing."

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To: smoothsailing
This "strategy" will, it is crystal clear, give every hope and encouragement to the people trying to kill us - the Islamist Jihadists.

It will place millions of Iraqis under sentence of death.

This is nothing less than a conspiracy - a Pearl Harbor attack on our own nation.

If there were ever a call to action against those in our nation seeking to destroy it for sheer political gain, this is it.

John Murtha is a traitor as are the cowardly and degenerate whores and pimps conspiring with him in this.
41 posted on 02/14/2007 8:18:54 PM PST by mtntop3 (u)
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To: bray; RedRover; jazusamo; freema; W04Man; ALOHA RONNIE
This is the original announcement of Murtha's Win Without War coalition, a bunch of hard leftist groups who always show up to cheer for America's defeat.They altered the wording a few hours ago, apparently at the request of their partners in treachery, the Democrat Party.The sanitized version is here:http://www.movecongress.org/content/index.php

Coming Tomorrow!!

CHAIRMAN JACK MURTHA TO OUTLINE COMMITTEE STRATEGY ON BUSH’S IRAQ FUNDING REQUEST THURSDAY MORNING AT 11:00 AM EST ON MOVECONGRESS.ORG

Join Us!

Join us tomorrow at 11:00 AM EST when Congressman Jack Murtha will outline new details of a strategy to use his Appropriations Subcommittee on Defense to oppose the Bush war in Iraq. Congressman Jim Moran, another Committee member, predicts the Committee action will be the “bite” that follows this week’s Congressional “bark” – the three-day debate on a non-binding Congressional resolution. The Appropriations Subcommittee on Defense has begun consideration of the president’s $93 billion supplemental appropriations request for Iraq. Action on the request will be the first opportunity for the new Congress to exercise its “power-of-the-purse” over the Iraq war. Chairman Murtha will describe his strategy for not only limiting the deployment of troops to Iraq but undermining other aspects of the president’s foreign and national security policy. Chairman Murtha discusses these steps in a videotaped conversation with former Congressman Tom Andrews (D-ME), the National Director of the Win Without War coalition, sponsor of MoveCongress.org.

Join us here tomorrow for this exclusive interview.

42 posted on 02/14/2007 8:33:22 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: mtntop3

From an article by Mark Silverberg:

"In the end, American support for the Vietnam War faded. Giap admitted in his memoirs that news media reporting of the war and the antiwar demonstrations that ensued in America surprised him. Instead of negotiating what he called a "conditional surrender," Giap said they would now go the limit because America's resolve was weakening and the possibility of complete victory was within Hanoi's grasp.

Bui Tin, who served on the general staff of the North Vietnamese army, received South Vietnam's unconditional surrender on April 30, 1975. In an interview with the Wall Street Journal after his retirement, he made clear that the antiwar movement in the United States (which led to the collapse of political will in Washington) was "essential to our strategy."

These lessons have not been lost to a new era of Islamic fascists for we can see the implications arising, once again, in Iraq. America can win the war in Iraq. The question is whether we will lose the war here at home as we did during Vietnam. The terrorist opponents of a new Iraq are cleverly playing to American fears of another Vietnam and our media and some of our elected representatives are unwittingly buying into the strategy."



http://www.jfednepa.org/mark%20silverberg/measure_nation.html


43 posted on 02/14/2007 8:34:16 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY ((((Truth shall set you free))))
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To: smoothsailing

bookmark
man, i'm behind tonight.


44 posted on 02/14/2007 8:51:18 PM PST by freema (Marine FRiend, 1stCuz2xRemoved, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: smoothsailing

Thanks for the heads up, I'll tune in in the morning to see what happens.


45 posted on 02/14/2007 8:56:36 PM PST by jazusamo (http://warchronicle.com/TheyAreNotKillers/DefendOurMarines.htm)
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To: smoothsailing
Chairman Murtha will describe his strategy for not only limiting the deployment of troops to Iraq but undermining other aspects of the president’s foreign and national security policy.

They indeed got that right: "Come and hear how the national security policy of the United States of America is going to be undermined..."

For those of us who remember World War II, These blatant words and statements and schemes are plain, simple sedition.

There would have been so much outrage then over such a scheme that the plotters - which is what they are - would have been tried as saboteurs and put in prison for years.

Has this nation become so desensitized that it is going to as-a-matter-fact allow its national security policy to be undermined for sheer political opportunism - and the nation plunged into an anarchy which will castrate the defenses of this nation?

46 posted on 02/14/2007 8:56:43 PM PST by mtntop3 (u)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The "media" and "elected representatives" are to a significant degree "buying into the strategy" because they WANT American failure in Iraq.

Many of these, on the left, both inwardly and openly despise their own nation and own people; and, most of all, place immediate political gain, and destruction of Republicans and all conservatives, above not only victory in Iraq but even our own national security as incredible as this may seem.

Truly, they ARE whores and pimps of the worst and most dangerous kind - because they have power. And they will result in the killing of us all, our loved ones, and future generations, if they have their way.


47 posted on 02/14/2007 9:09:49 PM PST by mtntop3 (u)
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To: smoothsailing

must come back when my eyes will stay open bump


48 posted on 02/14/2007 9:15:23 PM PST by freema (Marine FRiend, 1stCuz2xRemoved, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: freema
G'Night freema, I'll be turning in soon. More dragons to slay tomorrow.
49 posted on 02/14/2007 9:17:44 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

Any Republican that supports these traitors deserve to be thrown out.

Pray for W anbd Our Freedom Fighters


50 posted on 02/14/2007 9:29:44 PM PST by bray (Redeploy our Troops to Tehran)
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To: smoothsailing

It is..

Slow Bleed, blame the Republicans for the slow bleed, then in 2008 call for full cut and run during primaries so Barak Obama gets nomination and Dems take commanding majorities in the House (Making so called "Blue Dogs" irrelevant) and the Senate (able to break fillabusters). Then, the Rats can force really stupid things down our throats like they did in the late '70s.


51 posted on 02/14/2007 10:29:25 PM PST by Thunder90
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To: Thunder90
Yep, that's the plan, except for the Obama part.
52 posted on 02/14/2007 10:38:44 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: Akron Al; arbee4bush; bonfire; boxerblues; BlindedByTruth; cleveland gop; Commiewatcher; ...
Non-ping list subject, but worth pinging!

House Democrats' New Strategy: Force Slow End to War!

53 posted on 02/14/2007 11:34:15 PM PST by Las Vegas Dave (HDTV ping list, please FReepmail me if you would like your name added.)
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To: Las Vegas Dave

Not a surprise at all; we all knew that that would be what they would do. They took both Houses and yearn to relieve their glory days, when they made Vietnam a shambles.


54 posted on 02/14/2007 11:38:41 PM PST by nopardons
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To: finnman69
Thanks for that great video! I sure wish Rep. Kingston was my congressman...
55 posted on 02/14/2007 11:45:17 PM PST by nutmeg (National Security trumps everything else.)
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Top House Democrats, working in concert with anti-war groups, have decided against using congressional power to force a quick end to U.S. involvement in Iraq, and instead will pursue a slow-bleed strategy designed to gradually limit the administration's options.

Led by Rep. John P. Murtha, D-Pa., and supported by several well-funded anti-war groups, the coalition's goal is to limit or sharply reduce the number of U.S. troops available for the Iraq conflict, rather than to openly cut off funding for the war itself...

56 posted on 02/14/2007 11:47:35 PM PST by nutmeg (National Security trumps everything else.)
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To: smoothsailing
...gives political cover to conservative House Democrats who are nervous about appearing "anti-military"...

Entirely predictable. The Democrats are determined to destroy our military.

Voting for the Democrats in the last election was a vote to cut and run from Iraq and to destroy our military.

57 posted on 02/15/2007 12:38:09 AM PST by snowsislander
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To: snowsislander
It would be nice if these democrats would develop a strategy on how to win in Iraq instead of how to defeat America
58 posted on 02/15/2007 4:15:00 AM PST by sachem longrifle (proud member of the fond Du lac band of the Ojibwa people)
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To: Las Vegas Dave

Thank you so much for the ping - please feel free to ping anything like this to me. As was stated earlier, I agree with the following:

"Congressmen who willfully take action during wartime that damage morale and undermine the military are saboteurs, and should be arrested, exiled or hanged." -- Abraham Lincoln

Enough said!!!!


59 posted on 02/15/2007 4:46:42 AM PST by Ping-Pong
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To: smoothsailing

Republicans must go on the offensive and publically decry the liberal tactics.


60 posted on 02/15/2007 4:52:50 AM PST by G Larry (Only strict constructionists on the Supreme Court!)
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