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House Democrats' New Strategy: Force Slow End to War (Slow-bleed Defeat)
Politco.com ^ | 2-14-07 | John Bresnahan

Posted on 02/14/2007 11:16:47 AM PST by smoothsailing

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House Democrats' New Strategy: Force Slow End to War By: John Bresnahan February 14, 2007 01:06 PM EST

Top House Democrats, working in concert with anti-war groups, have decided against using congressional power to force a quick end to U.S. involvement in Iraq, and instead will pursue a slow-bleed strategy designed to gradually limit the administration's options.

Led by Rep. John P. Murtha, D-Pa., and supported by several well-funded anti-war groups, the coalition's goal is to limit or sharply reduce the number of U.S. troops available for the Iraq conflict, rather than to openly cut off funding for the war itself.

The legislative strategy will be supplemented by a multimillion-dollar TV ad campaign designed to pressure vulnerable GOP incumbents into breaking with President Bush and forcing the administration to admit that the war is politically unsustainable.

As described by participants, the goal is crafted to circumvent the biggest political vulnerability of the anti-war movement -- the accusation that it is willing to abandon troops in the field. That fear is why many Democrats have remained timid in challenging Bush, even as public support for the president and his Iraq policies have plunged.

Murtha and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., have decided that they must take the lead in pressuring not only Republicans but also cautious Senate Democrats to take steps more aggressive than nonbinding resolutions in challenging the Bush administration.

The House strategy is being crafted quietly, even as the chamber is immersed this week in an emotional, albeit mostly symbolic, debate over a resolution expressing opposition to Bush's plan to "surge" 21,500 more troops into Iraq.

NPR's Interview with Rep. Murtha

Murtha, the powerful chairman of the defense subcommittee of the House Appropriations Committee, will seek to attach a provision to an upcoming $93 billion supplemental spending bill for Iraq and Afghanistan. It would restrict the deployment of troops to Iraq unless they meet certain levels adequate manpower, equipment and training to succeed in combat. That's a standard Murtha believes few of the units Bush intends to use for the surge would be able to meet.

In addition, Murtha, acting with the backing of the House Democratic leadership, will seek to limit the time and number of deployments by soldiers, Marines and National Guard units to Iraq, making it tougher for Pentagon officials to find the troops to replace units that are scheduled to rotate out of the country. Additional funding restrictions are also being considered by Murtha, such as prohibiting the creation of U.S. military bases inside Iraq, dismantling the notorious Abu Ghraib prison and closing the American detention facility in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

"There's a D-Day coming in here, and it's going to start with the supplemental and finish with the '08 [defense] budget," said Rep. Neil Abercrombie, D-Hawaii, who chairs the Air and Land Forces subcommittee of the House Armed Services Committee.

Pelosi and other top Democrats are not yet prepared for an open battle with the White House over ending funding for the war, and they are wary of Republican claims that Democratic leaders would endanger the welfare of U.S. troops. The new approach of first reducing the number of troops available for the conflict, while maintaining funding levels for units already in the field, gives political cover to conservative House Democrats who are nervous about appearing "anti-military" while also mollifying the anti-war left, which has long been agitating for Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., to be more aggressive.

"What we have staked out is a campaign to stop the war without cutting off funding" for the troops, said Tom Mazzie of Americans Against Escalation of the War in Iraq. "We call it the 'readiness strategy.'"

Murtha's proposal, which has been kept under tight wraps, is likely to pass the House next month or in early April as part of the supplemental spending bill, Democratic insiders said, if the language remains tightly focused and does not threaten funding levels for combat forces already in the field. The battle will then shift to the Senate. Anti-war groups like Mazzie's are prepared to spend at least $6.5 million on a TV ad campaign and at least $2 million more on a grass-roots lobbying effort. Vulnerable GOP incumbents like Sens. Norm Coleman of Minnestoa, Susan Collins of Maine, Gordon Smith of Oregon and John Sununu of New Hampshire will be targeted by the anti-war organizations, according to Mazzie and former Rep. Tom Andrews, D-Maine, head of the Win Without War Coalition.

Mazzie also said anti-war groups would field primary and general election challengers to Democratic lawmakers who do not support proposals to end the war, a direct challenge to conservative incumbents who are attempting to straddle the political line between their pro- and anti-war constituents.

If the Senate does not approve these new funding restrictions, or if Senate Republicans filibuster the supplemental bill, Pelosi and the House Democratic leadership would then be able to ratchet up the political pressure on the White House to accede to their demands by "slow-walking" the supplemental bill. Additionally, House Democrats could try to insert the Murtha provisions into the fiscal 2008 defense authorization and spending bills, which are scheduled to come to the floor later in the year.

"We will set benchmarks for readiness," said a top Democratic leadership aide, speaking on the condition of anonymity. If enacted, these provisions would have the effect of limiting the number of troops available for the Bush surge plan, while blunting the GOP charge that Democrats are cutting funding for the troops. "We are not cutting funding for any [unit] in Iraq," said the aide, who admitted the Democratic maneuver would not prevent the president from sending some additional forces to Baghdad. "We want to limit the number who can go ... We're trying to build a case that the president needs to change course."

Mazzie, though, suggested that Democrats ought to directly rebut the Republican charge that Democrats are threatening the safety of American forces in the field by pushing restrictions on war funding. "Cutting off funding as described by the media and White House is a caricature," Mazzie said. "It has never happened in U.S. history, and it won't happen now."

Andrews, who met with Murtha on Tuesday to discuss legislative strategy, acknowledged "there is a relationship" with the House Democratic leadership and the anti-war groups, but added, "It is important for our members that we not be seen as an arm of the Democratic Caucus or the Democratic Party. We're not hand in glove."

Andrews's group has launched a new Web site, MoveCongress.org, and he has already posted an interview with Rep. Lynn Woolsey, D-Calif., one of the founders of the "Out of Iraq Caucus" in the House. An interview with Murtha on his legislative strategy will be posted on the site Thursday.

"I don't know how you vote against Murtha," said Andrews. "It's kind of an ingenious thing."

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To: smoothsailing

Doesn't matter to me! The more people that hear about this BS, the better!


21 posted on 02/14/2007 12:07:03 PM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: GitmoSailor
We did the right thing, Gitmo, both of us. :-)
22 posted on 02/14/2007 12:07:50 PM PST by smoothsailing (All Your Base Belong To Freema)
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To: smoothsailing

Here in Indy, Moveon.org is already running ads showing people claiming to be Iraq veterans who are against the war, and telling us to call our Sen and Reps and tell them not to support the troop surge.


23 posted on 02/14/2007 12:09:41 PM PST by DaiHuy (There is no situation so bad it cannot be made worse by the police.)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
Agreed, and there are 3 hours of seperation between the two postings, so the mods are probably cool with it.

It's worth keeping alive, folks need to know the truth.

24 posted on 02/14/2007 12:10:54 PM PST by smoothsailing (All Your Base Belong To Freema)
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To: smoothsailing

Don't you think the surge troops will already be there before Murtha introduces this in a month, and couldn't they be finished in six months before their current funding expires?


25 posted on 02/14/2007 12:33:57 PM PST by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: ClaireSolt
Yes, the reinforcements (I hate the word surge) will be there, many already are, Murtha can't stop that.

The problem will come if Murtha gets his way on stopping future deployments because they "aren't adequately trained or equipped".

That means no rotations, the troops there now will not get replacements when they come back home. At least that's the gist of Murtha's slow-bleed plan. He thinks he can draw down troop levels by not allowing more to go over, at some point all that are there now will rotate back.

It's a cowards way of ending our presence there. He can claim he's concerned about the troops, while gutting their mission.

26 posted on 02/14/2007 12:46:13 PM PST by smoothsailing (All Your Base Belong To Freema)
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To: smoothsailing

Cut and Walk?????


27 posted on 02/14/2007 12:50:21 PM PST by traditional1
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To: traditional1
Not even that. More like incremental defeat. Murtha's plan is to humiliate The United States from any and all directions.
28 posted on 02/14/2007 12:56:05 PM PST by smoothsailing (All Your Base Belong To Freema)
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To: smoothsailing
Andrews, who met with Murtha on Tuesday to discuss legislative strategy, acknowledged "there is a relationship" with the House Democratic leadership and the anti-war groups, but added, "It is important for our members that we not be seen as an arm of the Democratic Caucus or the Democratic Party. We're not hand in glove."

Bull-f***ing s***!

29 posted on 02/14/2007 1:51:41 PM PST by Christian4Bush (Too bad these leftist advocates for abortion didn't practice what they preach on themselves.)
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To: Christian4Bush
Well said!

Just the latest version of the same old democrat/socialist/communist bund.

30 posted on 02/14/2007 1:56:02 PM PST by smoothsailing (All Your Base Belong To Freema)
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To: OldGuard1

Great quote unfortunately Lincoln didn't say it. It was made by J. Michael Waller for an article in Insight magazine.


31 posted on 02/14/2007 1:59:24 PM PST by traderrob6
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To: smoothsailing; All
Two from a couple of Pookie18's FR "Today's Toons" threads:

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32 posted on 02/14/2007 2:03:16 PM PST by musicman
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To: smoothsailing

Don't overspecify your search. I would just search on the two words most likely to be found in any headline on the topic, "house war", and sort by date.

If you type in a whole title you might make a typo that kills it. If you type in too many words, you might miss matches the use 'Iraq' instead of 'war', for example.


33 posted on 02/14/2007 6:36:25 PM PST by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: smoothsailing

"Cutting off funding as described by the media and White House is a caricature," Mazzie said. "It has never happened in U.S. history, and it won't happen now."


BULL on both parts! The RATs cut off funding for the Vietnam war when we left and they won't hesitate to do it with Iraq.


34 posted on 02/14/2007 6:58:36 PM PST by RWB Patriot
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To: finnman69

Great video- thanks!


35 posted on 02/14/2007 7:08:51 PM PST by keats5 (tolerance of intolerant people is cultural suicide)
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To: ClaireSolt

"Don't you think the surge troops will already be there before Murtha introduces this in a month, and couldn't they be finished in six months before their current funding expires?"

That sounds like a plan to me. Heck, the Dems could even try to work in some more non-binding resolutions to keep their constituents happy in the meantime.


36 posted on 02/14/2007 7:11:21 PM PST by keats5 (tolerance of intolerant people is cultural suicide)
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To: Right Wing Assault
Thanks, your advice is well recieved.

I would add also searching by " match all words" in addition to "order by post time". Using the first 3 or 4 words of an article title are usually all that's needed.

I've posted over 1,100 threads in my 6+ years around here and I can only recall posting a dupe 4 or 5 times.

Today was one of those times. Imagine my surprise! LOL!

FRegards...

37 posted on 02/14/2007 7:17:33 PM PST by smoothsailing (All Your Base Belong To Freema)
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To: smoothsailing

This strategy would go nowhere if we had Republicans willing to stand up and call them the traitorous cowards they are in pulling this.


38 posted on 02/14/2007 7:42:32 PM PST by plain talk
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To: plain talk
You're right, forceful public condemnation by "gloves off" R's would stop it.

The dems would move on and come up with a different plan, they'll never quit working for America's defeat.

It's what they do, it's all they are.

39 posted on 02/14/2007 7:52:02 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

Have we ended WWII yet?? How bout defunding Germany, Japan and Korea??

Pray for W and Our Troops


40 posted on 02/14/2007 7:54:35 PM PST by bray (Redeploy our Troops to Tehran)
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