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You Don't Have to Pay Red Light Camera Tickets!
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| 1/30/07
| Jim Forsyth
Posted on 02/13/2007 7:05:37 AM PST by laotzu
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"A lot of people, I think, who run red lights, are people who have bad credit anyway," he said. Brilliant.
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posted on
02/13/2007 7:05:38 AM PST
by
laotzu
To: laotzu
I thought that you could not register your vehicle with outstanding tickets. Or is that only for us poor, dumb legals??
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posted on
02/13/2007 7:07:53 AM PST
by
pikachu
(Support Global Warming by buying future beach front property in Denver today!)
To: laotzu
I've always wondered how they could justify sending the ticket to the vehicle owner without verifying who the driver was.
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posted on
02/13/2007 7:08:36 AM PST
by
Thermalseeker
(Just the facts, ma'am)
To: laotzu
I can some serious abuse of power coming from this.
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posted on
02/13/2007 7:08:46 AM PST
by
darkwing104
(Let's get dangerous)
To: pikachu
Go ahead and don't pay them, Not. They'll get back to you sooner or later.
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posted on
02/13/2007 7:09:11 AM PST
by
Thebaddog
(Labrador Retrievers are the dog's dog)
To: laotzu
Hmmmm... Florida is oft made fun of, but no red light cameras down here
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posted on
02/13/2007 7:09:44 AM PST
by
dennisw
(What one man can do another can do -- "The Edge")
To: laotzu
I can
see some serious abuse of power coming from this.
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posted on
02/13/2007 7:09:55 AM PST
by
darkwing104
(Let's get dangerous)
To: laotzu
I don't have any red light camera tickets!
Shooting for the suitable breathless hysteria to match the silly headline...
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posted on
02/13/2007 7:10:59 AM PST
by
JasonC
To: laotzu
Your mileage may vary, but I don't think there is any state in which ordinary first class mail is legal service or process, or notice of a summons.
Ignoring tickets delivered without taking your signature or by other process service should be a fair strategy. They make more money cranking out new tickets than following up on old ones.
If it were about public safety, they would persist even if not profitable. Since it's about fund raising, they focus only on the profitable angles.
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posted on
02/13/2007 7:11:21 AM PST
by
Atlas Sneezed
(Your FRiendly FReeper Patent Attorney)
To: pikachu
From the article a red light camera ticket is a civil violation, apparently current law only prevents registering you vehicle for outstanding criminal violations.
I think it is outstanding, take that El Paso, Houston and whoever else is using those cameras.
To: Beelzebubba
Ignoring tickets delivered without taking your signature or by other process service should be a fair strategy.An even better strategy is not running red lights.
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posted on
02/13/2007 7:13:35 AM PST
by
AxelPaulsenJr
(Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.)
To: Thermalseeker
I've always wondered how they could justify sending the ticket to the vehicle owner without verifying who the driver was.
they can't. most places if you contest it and tell them they can't prove it was you, they'll throw it out. the vast majority of people will just send the money tho.
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posted on
02/13/2007 7:13:36 AM PST
by
absolootezer0
(stop repeat offenders - don't re-elect them!)
To: JasonC
It's a stupid concept anyway. The court has no idea who is driving the car. It's like arresting someone because their stolen car was involved in a bank robbery.
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posted on
02/13/2007 7:13:37 AM PST
by
AppyPappy
(If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
To: laotzu
I'll run one if there's no other traffic around and I have good credit.
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posted on
02/13/2007 7:13:42 AM PST
by
Graybeard58
(Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
To: Thermalseeker
"'ve always wondered how they could justify sending the ticket to the vehicle owner without verifying who the driver was."
The same way they can leave a ticket on your windshield for a parking violation. It is a non-moving offense, but eventually unpaid parking tickets can become a serious problem for you if you get caught on another more serious violation, or crime.
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posted on
02/13/2007 7:14:08 AM PST
by
Mark Felton
("Wisdom is supreme...and though it cost all you have, get understanding" -- Proverbs 4)
To: laotzu
>>>>If you get a ticket in the mail indicating you have run a red light and demanding you pay the fine, 1200 WOAI news reported today there is very little enforcement mechanism available. Basically, if you don't want to pay the $148 dollar fine, for example, which will be imposed on red light runners in the suburb of Balcones Heights, you don't have to, and there's nothing officials can do about it.<<<
I would like to add a story for consideration. Every few years, my lovely state of NJ runs a 'fund raiser'.
At random, people will be mailed PHANTOM parking tickets. Many of these PHANTOM tickets will be dated years back and usually are from towns you never been to.
If you don't pay these tickets, your license gets suspended. The fees for reinstating your license is usually more than the parking ticket.
Keep that in mind when ignoring these camera tickets. There may be some in Texas taking notes from NJ.
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posted on
02/13/2007 7:14:11 AM PST
by
Calpernia
(Breederville.com)
To: laotzu
Recently Michigan's AG, Mike Cox (his real name) ruled that police officers issue tickets and not cameras.
From what I understand, the machines are history in Michigan or at least won't be part of our future.
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posted on
02/13/2007 7:14:34 AM PST
by
jws3sticks
(Hillary can take a very long walk on a very short pier, anytime, and the sooner the better!)
To: laotzu
because the standard instrument that confirms a debt, a signed agreement by the debtor promising to pay the loan, doesn't exist.That doesn't stop State Revenue agencies from filing tax liens against non-residents. I'm living proof.
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posted on
02/13/2007 7:16:21 AM PST
by
CholeraJoe
(The only Americans who need to know where Syria is are the navigators on the bombers.)
To: laotzu
What about tickets for running through those eztoll lanes without a valid electronic signaller on toll roads like the one in Houston?
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posted on
02/13/2007 7:16:26 AM PST
by
wildbill
To: Beelzebubba
I don't think there is any state in which ordinary first class mail is legal service or process, or notice of a summons. That's what I told my wife when she got a letter via U.S. mail for jury duty with dire consequences if she didn't appear. I told her to ignore it and not worry unless she was served a summons. She went any way but the letter has no legal standing.
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posted on
02/13/2007 7:17:51 AM PST
by
Graybeard58
(Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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