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Giuliani: Gun control helped lower crime
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Posted on 02/11/2007 1:33:49 PM PST by Sub-Driver

Giuliani: Gun control helped lower crime

5 minutes ago

Rudy Giuliani addressed a potentially troublesome issue with conservative voters, saying his policies as mayor to get handguns off the street helped reduce crime in New York.

"I used gun control as mayor," he said at a news conference Saturday during a swing through California. But "I understand the Second Amendment. I understand the right to bear arms."

He said what he did as mayor would have no effect on hunting.

Addressing another potential trouble spot with conservatives, Giuliani spoke in favor of a border fence, saying, "You have to have secure borders, you have to have a fence, and the fence I think has to be a highly technological one."

The nation needs to know, he said, who is coming into the country and why. But he provided scant details on how he would deal with illegal immigrants already in the country. Citizens, he added, should be able to read and write English.

Giuliani was to make an address Monday in Silicon Valley and he was to appear Tuesday at an agricultural fair in the Central Valley.

Asked when he would make a formal announcement that he is a candidate for the Republican nomination, Giuliani said: "Well, formally announce? I don't know."

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To: Sub-Driver
Gun control helped lower crime

IIRC, Hillary has also advocated gun control.

Amazing. In those states that have concealed-carry, crime rates also tend to be lower.

Go figure.
21 posted on 02/11/2007 1:43:42 PM PST by TomGuy
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To: Sub-Driver
What is Giuliani STUPID or something?..

In Alaska you don't even need a permit to conceal carry.. i.e. women in their purses
How many crimes are NOT committed because of it theres no way to measure..

22 posted on 02/11/2007 1:44:20 PM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: Sub-Driver

NRA Ping!


23 posted on 02/11/2007 1:45:14 PM PST by TommyDale (Who do you trust? An ex-mayor? Or the ranking member of the House Committee on Armed Services?)
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To: Sub-Driver
"He said what he did as mayor would have no effect on hunting."

Every time he opens his mouth he puts his foot in it. But isn't that just what liberals do? Pretty bad when a potential Presidental candidate thinks the 2nd amendment is all about hunting.

24 posted on 02/11/2007 1:46:08 PM PST by Post-Neolithic (Money only makes Communists rich Communists)
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To: FreedomCalls

You don't regulate the 2nd amendment.

You amend the Constitution.


25 posted on 02/11/2007 1:48:21 PM PST by Reagan Man (Conservatives don't vote for liberals.)
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To: Sub-Driver

My idea of gun control is two shots in the same hole.


26 posted on 02/11/2007 1:49:24 PM PST by navygal (Numbers 6:24-26)
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To: Sub-Driver

No way no how does he get my vote.

If its between him and hillary, Im going third party.

An election between Hillary and Rudy is simply a Dem vs Dem election.


27 posted on 02/11/2007 1:49:46 PM PST by dman4384
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To: Post-Neolithic
It is fun to watch the politicians do the dipsy-doodle side-step on every issue and still manage to come down on every side of every issue. Most have a chiropractor on staff as they perform their various contortions.

The scary thing is one of them gets elected.
28 posted on 02/11/2007 1:50:31 PM PST by TomGuy
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This guy is a first class clown. I can't believe this is who we may decide to sacrifice to the Hillary/Obama cabal.

The party cannot come together with a far left liberal like Giuliani. He has too many views that mirror the Democrats. This is Wendell Willkie all over again. It's not a choice at all.

The Dems will try hard not to snicker if we nominate Rudy. An uninspired base, led by Rino cheerleaders is not gonna get it done.
29 posted on 02/11/2007 1:50:39 PM PST by Luke21
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To: Sub-Driver
GUN-GRABBER ALERT!

It's good that this comes out now before his campaign starts fooling too many people.

30 posted on 02/11/2007 1:51:14 PM PST by 2111USMC
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo
It isn't.....about.....hunting......

Yup. And I'm sure Rudy knows that, but this is the MSM. Note that the sentence in question is not a direct quote. It's just a note the reporter chose to pull from the event.

I'd wait for the transcript. I'm getting the impression the MSM hates Giuliani, because they suspect he could be elected, thus ending their dreams of Hillarycare, and are doing everything they can to sow discontent. Judging from the infighting already going on amongst conservatives, it appears to be working.

I always thought conservatives were too smart to be led by the drive-by media's obvious agendas, but then came 2005 and 2006.

Remember the ports issue? Remember how it tore conservatives apart? After things settled down we discovered -- lo and behold! -- it was Chucky Schumer behind it. Aided and abetted by the media.

Stop falling for this crap. Behind the curtain, it's the old hippies using their 1960s divide-and-conquer strategy. I can't believe so many are buying into it.

31 posted on 02/11/2007 1:51:52 PM PST by JennysCool (Blink 182 isn't just a band, it's Nancy Pelosi's per-minute average.)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo
Rudy told the cops to search or pull over anybody who looks like they were carrying an illegal handgun.

Got lots of howls from the leftist criminal coddlers but was very effective, its not rocket science, bad guys most often look the part, you just have to do what law enforcement officers did for 200 years in this country before the hippies took over.

Ultimately this entire debate about Giuliani is pointless, either vote for him or Hillary or stay home, it doesn't matter, Giuliani will pick up most of the independents and a lot of donkeycrat imbeciles too.

His victory will be similar to Reagans second election landslide.

34 posted on 02/11/2007 1:53:17 PM PST by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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Sorry, Rudy ... you just lost this voter. The 2nd Amendment is more than the right to hunt. And speaking of Hunting and HUNTERS, Duncan, count me in!


35 posted on 02/11/2007 1:53:42 PM PST by NonValueAdded (Prevent Glo-Ball Warming ... turn out the sun when not in use)
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To: TomGuy

Careful NY has CCW permits, but you can't get one, especially in NYC unless you are Don Imus


36 posted on 02/11/2007 1:54:37 PM PST by tiger-one (The night has a thousand eyes)
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To: Sub-Driver

No to Hillary
No to Rudy.

No to any Gun Grabber.


37 posted on 02/11/2007 1:54:50 PM PST by dman4384
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To: FreedomCalls

he's saying any regulation not consistent with the Second Amendment is unconstitutional. Any proposed gun regulation must be consistent with the Second Amendment.



And he thinks banning handguns and military-style rifles is consistent with the 2nd amendment, apparently!


38 posted on 02/11/2007 1:54:58 PM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Your FRiendly FReeper Patent Attorney)
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To: JennysCool

Keen observation and excellent points.

Thanks!


39 posted on 02/11/2007 1:55:06 PM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo (Carry Daily. Apply Sparingly.)
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To: Sub-Driver

40 posted on 02/11/2007 1:55:10 PM PST by aomagrat (Let not your heart be troubled: Ye believe in God, believe ye also in gunboats.)
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