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Rudy Giuliani Has Got What You Need
411 ^ | 2/11/07

Posted on 02/11/2007 12:44:55 PM PST by areafiftyone

Rudy Giuliani Has Got What You Need


Posted by Mark Radulich on 02.15.2007



It won't matter what Giuliani thinks about about abortion if Iran drops a bomb on us. And quite frankly I'm much less worried about Islamic terrorism with President Giuliani in charge than President Brownback or Clinton.

The story right now being bandied about by the mainstream media and the talk radio world is that the GOP has no front-runner for the 2008 Presidential election or that the front-runners are not exactly inspiring anyone. The three most prominent names right now are obviously John McCain, Mitt Romney and Rudy Giuliani.

The reason these three contenders fail to ignite the imagination of their base is not because they aren't competent leaders or even forces to be reckoned with in terms of security but rather that they fail to meet the social conservative litmus test of Republican base. They are not anti-gay marriage, anti-abortion or anti-gun control enough for many social conservative voters to trust and therefore many just aren't excited enough to stand behind these while either Clinton or Obama make their way to the White House.


As I've said before, social voting in the age of world wide Islamic terrorism befuddles me. I suppose President Brownback could try and outlaw abortion but a world free of legally murdered babies doesn't stop Mohammed from blowing himself up outside of your local Starbucks. President Huckabee could save the institution of marriage for the next thousand years by sending all homosexuals to France forever but that has nothing to do with Iran or North Korea and the likely possibility that they will facilitate one of many terrorist groups getting their hands on a nuclear device. Stopping stem-cell research doesn't drop the bomb from being dropped on Israel or us for that matter so I fail to see how social vote should supercede security and foreign policy votes.

Let me explain it this way; You have what's called Maslow's Hierarchy of Human Needs, which is a theory in psychology that Abraham Maslow proposed in 1943 that states as humans meet 'basic needs', they seek to satisfy successively 'higher needs' that occupy a set hierarchy. Maslow wrote that "the study of crippled, stunted, immature, and unhealthy specimens can yield only a cripple psychology and a cripple philosophy." In other words, if your most basic needs weren't met, then your emotional, spiritual and psychological growth would be stunted or crippled.

Maslow's hierarchy of needs is typically represented as a pyramid with the more primitive needs at the bottom and consisting of five levels: the four lower levels are grouped together as deficiency needs associated with physiological needs, while the top level is termed growth needs associated with psychological needs. While deficiency needs must be met, growth needs are continually shaping behavior. The basic concept is that the higher needs in this hierarchy only come into focus once all the needs that are lower down in the pyramid are mainly or entirely satisfied. Growth forces create upward movement in the hierarchy, whereas regressive forces push prepotent needs further down the hierarchy.

As you can see from the pyramid shown above, the first two levels of need are physical survival needs such as water, food, sleep, warmth and exercise and safety and security needs. The other more ethereal needs don't come into play until those two levels have been met.

Now let's look at the candidate most likely to be beat Hillary Clinton should the Democrats opt to give her a run at the White House, former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani. Aside from the fact that he's the most like GOP candidate to actually win NY since probably the Reagan administration, Giuliani's record stacks up pretty well against the first two levels Maslow's hierarchy of needs.

As Mayor of the largest city and arguably the most important city in America, Giuliani had to manage the city public works efficiently and make the city livable for its residents. According to his campaign website, "Rudy Giuliani cut more taxes than any Mayor in New York City history, reducing or eliminating 23 city taxes, saving individuals and businesses a cumulative $8 billion, while reducing New Yorkers' tax burden by nearly 20%. By the end of Giuliani's term in office, New Yorkers enjoyed their lowest tax burden in three decades, along with the creation of approximately 425,000 new private sector jobs… When Rudy Giuliani took office, 59% of New Yorkers said they would leave the city the next day if they could, according to a CNN/Time poll. Drawing upon the "Broken Windows" theory of policing, the City cracked down on quality of life crimes such as aggressive panhandling, graffiti, and drug dealing, transforming places like Times Square into safe destinations for theatergoers and sightseers. The City launched an aggressive initiative against drunk drivers, and implemented a ban on sex shops within 500 feet of residential neighborhoods, churches, and schools. In addition, Mayor Giuliani acquired 2,038 acres of new parkland – the most in more than 50 years."


The former mayor also has a solid record on protecting children and increasing security in a city that once rivaled other big cities in rapes and murders. "Under Rudy Giuliani's leadership as Mayor of the nation's largest city, murders were cut from 1,946 in 1993 to 649 in 2001, while overall crime – including rapes, assaults, burglary and auto-thefts – fell by an average of 57%. According to the FBI, New York was transformed from the crime capital of the country into the Safest Large City in America, while becoming the global model for excellence in law enforcement. Rudy Giuliani believes that "Public safety is a fundamental civil right…when you reduce crime, you restore people's freedom."

Acting on his belief that "One of the most important responsibilities of government is to protect children from harm," Mayor Giuliani worked to create the city's first independent child welfare agency, reducing the foster care population by promoting a record number of adoptions, and doubling child support collections by cracking down on deadbeat dads, and implementing a program called HealthStat, which identified unenrolled children eligible for health insurance."

Giuliani obviously will be strong on domestic law and order issues as well as quality of life issue but the big question will be whether or not he has the gumption to fight Islamic terrorism worldwide. If his speeches are to believed and his actions concerning an anti-Semitic Saudi and a very large check are any indication then I believe Giuliani will be the kind of terror warrior many of us thought Bush would become.

The world has become too small to be so caught up in social policy voting. No matter who you vote in, either very liberal or very conservative, the fact of the matter is that abortion will never be prohibited in our lifetime but the likelihood of Iran or China starting a nuclear war is and the smart people of this country should be thinking about what kind of leader they want to be in charge when that does happen. When your most basic needs are being threatened and your livelihood is under attack from foreign invaders, who do you think is going to protect you and fight the enemy, Giuliani or Hillary Clinton? At the end of the day, social votes aside, Giuliani has got what every American needs – the ability to lead and manage this nation while fighting the enemy abroad.


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To: sig226; nopardons

From FoxNews TODAY.

Paul Gigot transcript:

SIEGEL: Well, it's little known, but when he came into office, one out of every seven New Yorkers, 1.1 million people, were on welfare. Now, this is significant not only because welfare itself was a problem. It's because when he came into office, New York was bankrupt. It was technically bankrupt.

And he pulled New York back from bankruptcy, partly through welfare reform, partly through cuts, partly through some privatizations. And the fiscal accomplishments in his first term were enormous, but not widely known.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,251384,00.html


301 posted on 02/11/2007 6:34:27 PM PST by BunnySlippers (SAY YES TO RUDY !!!)
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To: nopardons

And if Rudy gets the nomination, or even elected, do you think he won't be investigated?


302 posted on 02/11/2007 6:36:48 PM PST by TommyDale (Who do you trust? An ex-mayor? Or the ranking member of the House Committee on Armed Services?)
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To: nopardons

Huh? Say that again...


303 posted on 02/11/2007 6:38:19 PM PST by TommyDale (Who do you trust? An ex-mayor? Or the ranking member of the House Committee on Armed Services?)
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To: nopardons
"Your nic sake wouldn't agree, I'm certain."

And who is my "nic sake" ?

304 posted on 02/11/2007 6:42:12 PM PST by TommyDale (Who do you trust? An ex-mayor? Or the ranking member of the House Committee on Armed Services?)
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To: kinoxi
You are quite pathetic.

Oh, I think you need to go back and read your posts.

305 posted on 02/11/2007 6:44:13 PM PST by McGavin999 ("Hard is not Hopeless" General Petraeus)
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To: Dog Gone
"Would it be an unfair attack on me to claim that I'm a racist because of what I did back then?"

If you were a public figure and running for President of the United States, it would be fair game. But my question was "What do you consider an unfair attack, as compared to pointing out his record?"

306 posted on 02/11/2007 6:45:07 PM PST by TommyDale (Who do you trust? An ex-mayor? Or the ranking member of the House Committee on Armed Services?)
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To: FreeReign
Re: "Freedom is about authority. Freedom is about the willingness of every single human being to cede to lawful authority a great deal of discretion about what you do and how you do it."
Rudy Giuliani

It's a quote from one of his 1994 speaches as Mayor. Google "Freedomis about authority" Rudy Giuliani 1994

"Was it the Village Voice? Was it the NY Times? They both used to like to slime Rudy."

It's a quote that can not be taken out of context. It the meaning of a complete summary about what one thinks about freedom.

"government exists above all to keep people safe in their homes and in the streets"

No it does not. The only justification for govm't is to protect rights. This safety nonsense is simply obfuscation to avoid haveing folks notice their rights are being violated.

"Rudy:Over the last century, millions of people from all over the world have come to New York City. They didn’t come here to be taken care of and to be dependent on city government. They came here for the freedom to take care of themselves."

That's a pretty misleading quote, since Rudy thinks govm't is there to not only keep people safe, but "to determine what you do, and how you do it." Dependant simply means the city's not going to pay for the trip, except for hte illegals.

307 posted on 02/11/2007 6:45:35 PM PST by spunkets ("Freedom is about authority", Rudy Giuliani)
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To: everyone

The "411" article makes some very good points.


308 posted on 02/11/2007 6:45:47 PM PST by California Patriot ("That's not Charlie the Tuna out there. It's Jaws." -- Richard Nixon)
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To: McGavin999
You support a cross dressing liberal and state I need to review my posts?
309 posted on 02/11/2007 6:47:37 PM PST by kinoxi
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To: FreeReign; nopardons
Since you've googled Hunter's name, seen the supposed baggage and made the vague charge, why don't you come right out and say what the baggage is?



I have no idea how to post a 22 page pdf file and even if I did I don't think the amount of bandwidth it would take would be appreciated. Perhaps if you backtracked here a little and read some of nopardons posts it might give you some idea, other than that you'll have to do your own leg work to find out how he's filled his time for the past 27 years, padding his and his buddies pockets, while he's been an elected official. 'Duncan Hunter+corruption' in Google will find you more than you'll ever want to know about him.
310 posted on 02/11/2007 6:47:56 PM PST by AmeriBrit (#1 ISSUE....WIN THE WOT.)
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To: McGavin999

Pathetic.


311 posted on 02/11/2007 6:48:26 PM PST by kinoxi
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To: TommyDale

The person who posted this to you is completely bonkers, and has been called "Free Republics meanest poster" by MANY people. Tangle with her further at your own peril.

Oh yeah, she's a massive liar, too.


312 posted on 02/11/2007 6:50:24 PM PST by Fierce Allegiance ("Campers laugh at clowns behind closed doors." GOHUNTER08!)
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To: BunnySlippers

The dirty little secret, strong conservative leadership.


313 posted on 02/11/2007 6:50:39 PM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (" Judge not and thou shalt not be judged")
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To: kinoxi
You just made my point. You have made and absolute a$$ of yourself by jumping to the conclusion that I support Rudy. Where did you get that idea? Just because I noted that you should go back and read your own posts because you were making a fool of youself?

Well, since obviously you are reacting like a rabid dog, I'll leave you to chase your own tail and amuse yourself and everyone else that is lurking on this thread.

314 posted on 02/11/2007 6:51:57 PM PST by McGavin999 ("Hard is not Hopeless" General Petraeus)
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To: McGavin999

Uh... Yeah.. Your right man...


315 posted on 02/11/2007 6:53:12 PM PST by kinoxi
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To: Fierce Allegiance; nopardons

That's just a lie. Nopardons backs up her posts with evidence.

I see you're out here making scurrilous charges about people which you have no intention of proving.


316 posted on 02/11/2007 6:54:03 PM PST by BunnySlippers (SAY YES TO RUDY !!!)
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To: kinoxi

ROTFLMCO, you really are amusing.


317 posted on 02/11/2007 6:54:31 PM PST by McGavin999 ("Hard is not Hopeless" General Petraeus)
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To: DocH
Sorry, but if you are, in fact, going to vote for RINO-rudy, then I believe you are HEAVY on the "meathead", and LIGHT on the "conservative".

yea and our current "conservative" president isnt putting up much of a fight.

who you suggest? mccain? obama?

im voting rudy, the man is a leader he might not have super right wing views but its character im judging him on. i think rudy could do it.

318 posted on 02/11/2007 6:55:40 PM PST by MetalHeadConservative35 (Go Flyers.)
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To: nopardons

I had forgotten that post! I remember being really mad at the time it was posted. Sitting here stunned as I read it again!


319 posted on 02/11/2007 6:56:34 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Broken Glass Republican -- Rudy 08 -- Take back the House and Senate in 2008)
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To: BunnySlippers

No, nopardons has not backed up anything with me, and got a slapdown from Jim Robinson for her lies the other night.

Sorry, BS, it's true. Check it out for yourself, if you'd like. Cute try, though.


320 posted on 02/11/2007 6:57:37 PM PST by Fierce Allegiance ("Campers laugh at clowns behind closed doors." GOHUNTER08!)
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