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Rudy Giuliani Has Got What You Need
411 ^ | 2/11/07

Posted on 02/11/2007 12:44:55 PM PST by areafiftyone

Rudy Giuliani Has Got What You Need


Posted by Mark Radulich on 02.15.2007



It won't matter what Giuliani thinks about about abortion if Iran drops a bomb on us. And quite frankly I'm much less worried about Islamic terrorism with President Giuliani in charge than President Brownback or Clinton.

The story right now being bandied about by the mainstream media and the talk radio world is that the GOP has no front-runner for the 2008 Presidential election or that the front-runners are not exactly inspiring anyone. The three most prominent names right now are obviously John McCain, Mitt Romney and Rudy Giuliani.

The reason these three contenders fail to ignite the imagination of their base is not because they aren't competent leaders or even forces to be reckoned with in terms of security but rather that they fail to meet the social conservative litmus test of Republican base. They are not anti-gay marriage, anti-abortion or anti-gun control enough for many social conservative voters to trust and therefore many just aren't excited enough to stand behind these while either Clinton or Obama make their way to the White House.


As I've said before, social voting in the age of world wide Islamic terrorism befuddles me. I suppose President Brownback could try and outlaw abortion but a world free of legally murdered babies doesn't stop Mohammed from blowing himself up outside of your local Starbucks. President Huckabee could save the institution of marriage for the next thousand years by sending all homosexuals to France forever but that has nothing to do with Iran or North Korea and the likely possibility that they will facilitate one of many terrorist groups getting their hands on a nuclear device. Stopping stem-cell research doesn't drop the bomb from being dropped on Israel or us for that matter so I fail to see how social vote should supercede security and foreign policy votes.

Let me explain it this way; You have what's called Maslow's Hierarchy of Human Needs, which is a theory in psychology that Abraham Maslow proposed in 1943 that states as humans meet 'basic needs', they seek to satisfy successively 'higher needs' that occupy a set hierarchy. Maslow wrote that "the study of crippled, stunted, immature, and unhealthy specimens can yield only a cripple psychology and a cripple philosophy." In other words, if your most basic needs weren't met, then your emotional, spiritual and psychological growth would be stunted or crippled.

Maslow's hierarchy of needs is typically represented as a pyramid with the more primitive needs at the bottom and consisting of five levels: the four lower levels are grouped together as deficiency needs associated with physiological needs, while the top level is termed growth needs associated with psychological needs. While deficiency needs must be met, growth needs are continually shaping behavior. The basic concept is that the higher needs in this hierarchy only come into focus once all the needs that are lower down in the pyramid are mainly or entirely satisfied. Growth forces create upward movement in the hierarchy, whereas regressive forces push prepotent needs further down the hierarchy.

As you can see from the pyramid shown above, the first two levels of need are physical survival needs such as water, food, sleep, warmth and exercise and safety and security needs. The other more ethereal needs don't come into play until those two levels have been met.

Now let's look at the candidate most likely to be beat Hillary Clinton should the Democrats opt to give her a run at the White House, former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani. Aside from the fact that he's the most like GOP candidate to actually win NY since probably the Reagan administration, Giuliani's record stacks up pretty well against the first two levels Maslow's hierarchy of needs.

As Mayor of the largest city and arguably the most important city in America, Giuliani had to manage the city public works efficiently and make the city livable for its residents. According to his campaign website, "Rudy Giuliani cut more taxes than any Mayor in New York City history, reducing or eliminating 23 city taxes, saving individuals and businesses a cumulative $8 billion, while reducing New Yorkers' tax burden by nearly 20%. By the end of Giuliani's term in office, New Yorkers enjoyed their lowest tax burden in three decades, along with the creation of approximately 425,000 new private sector jobs… When Rudy Giuliani took office, 59% of New Yorkers said they would leave the city the next day if they could, according to a CNN/Time poll. Drawing upon the "Broken Windows" theory of policing, the City cracked down on quality of life crimes such as aggressive panhandling, graffiti, and drug dealing, transforming places like Times Square into safe destinations for theatergoers and sightseers. The City launched an aggressive initiative against drunk drivers, and implemented a ban on sex shops within 500 feet of residential neighborhoods, churches, and schools. In addition, Mayor Giuliani acquired 2,038 acres of new parkland – the most in more than 50 years."


The former mayor also has a solid record on protecting children and increasing security in a city that once rivaled other big cities in rapes and murders. "Under Rudy Giuliani's leadership as Mayor of the nation's largest city, murders were cut from 1,946 in 1993 to 649 in 2001, while overall crime – including rapes, assaults, burglary and auto-thefts – fell by an average of 57%. According to the FBI, New York was transformed from the crime capital of the country into the Safest Large City in America, while becoming the global model for excellence in law enforcement. Rudy Giuliani believes that "Public safety is a fundamental civil right…when you reduce crime, you restore people's freedom."

Acting on his belief that "One of the most important responsibilities of government is to protect children from harm," Mayor Giuliani worked to create the city's first independent child welfare agency, reducing the foster care population by promoting a record number of adoptions, and doubling child support collections by cracking down on deadbeat dads, and implementing a program called HealthStat, which identified unenrolled children eligible for health insurance."

Giuliani obviously will be strong on domestic law and order issues as well as quality of life issue but the big question will be whether or not he has the gumption to fight Islamic terrorism worldwide. If his speeches are to believed and his actions concerning an anti-Semitic Saudi and a very large check are any indication then I believe Giuliani will be the kind of terror warrior many of us thought Bush would become.

The world has become too small to be so caught up in social policy voting. No matter who you vote in, either very liberal or very conservative, the fact of the matter is that abortion will never be prohibited in our lifetime but the likelihood of Iran or China starting a nuclear war is and the smart people of this country should be thinking about what kind of leader they want to be in charge when that does happen. When your most basic needs are being threatened and your livelihood is under attack from foreign invaders, who do you think is going to protect you and fight the enemy, Giuliani or Hillary Clinton? At the end of the day, social votes aside, Giuliani has got what every American needs – the ability to lead and manage this nation while fighting the enemy abroad.


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To: TommyDale
Your nic sake wouldn't agree, I'm certain.

But what you just said is rather telling; not in a nice way, I might add.

281 posted on 02/11/2007 6:02:53 PM PST by nopardons
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To: kinoxi
I DID just that and refuted it handily!

Go get someone to read the replies to you.

282 posted on 02/11/2007 6:04:23 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons
"Is that why you want to help get Hillary elected?"

I have no respect for gun grabbers and Rudy is one. He doesn't believe in Freedom either. Here's what he thinks about that.

"Freedom is about authority. Freedom is about the willingness of every single human being to cede to lawful authority a great deal of discretion about what you do and how you do it."
Rudy Giuliani

He also thinks folks that are morally opposed to both abortion and stem cell research, should have to pay taxes to support it. It's completely consistent with his concept of "freedom".

Your claim that I want to get Hillary elected is simply an unjustified libelous statement. As I said, I have zero respect for gun grabbers, and I'm not tossing a vote for anyone with such a view of freedom, especially one that would make me and my fellows criminals. If this clown is what the party puts up, I'll vote for Buggs Bunny and the country clubbers can choke on the hen.

283 posted on 02/11/2007 6:06:24 PM PST by spunkets ("Freedom is about authority", Rudy Giuliani)
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To: nopardons

Yeah, enjoy. If I ever get tired of Rudy threads there's always the...


284 posted on 02/11/2007 6:06:59 PM PST by kinoxi
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To: TommyDale
Hunter was/is in elected OFFICE!

Trying to compare what someone did while IN office, with the things that a PRIVATE CITIZEN has done or not done, is comparing apples and zebras. So too is it misleading and contrary to talk about the employee, who is no longer an employee, without also talking about the TWO Hunter STAFF members, who are now about to stand trial.

Is the DOJ investigating Hunter or Rudy?

285 posted on 02/11/2007 6:09:49 PM PST by nopardons
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To: kinoxi
Okay, since you are incapable of any reading comprehension skills at all.............

You

stated

without

any

nuance

or

shadings

nor

qualifying

remarks

that

Rudy

is

a

cross dresser.

That is a lie!

286 posted on 02/11/2007 6:12:52 PM PST by nopardons
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To: kinoxi

As with everything else, you are, as ever, wrong on all accounts. LOL


287 posted on 02/11/2007 6:14:42 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons

You are quite pathetic. I choose to laugh at your sorry ass right now.


288 posted on 02/11/2007 6:16:06 PM PST by kinoxi
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To: spunkets
"Freedom is about authority. Freedom is about the willingness of every single human being to cede to lawful authority a great deal of discretion about what you do and how you do it." Rudy Giuliani

Sounds bad. I would have to see the full context though. Where is the quote from?. Was it the Village Voice? Was it the NY Times? They both used to like to slime Rudy.

Here's an interesting quote:


289 posted on 02/11/2007 6:17:30 PM PST by FreeReign (Still waiting for the best conservative candidate.)
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To: nopardons

There used to be a point to your ramble...


290 posted on 02/11/2007 6:18:24 PM PST by kinoxi
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To: Zack Nguyen
Newt can't address them without bringing all kinds of problems and terrible rehashings, from the MSM, down upon his head.

He's not new to the world of politics; neither is he so stupid, that he hasn't already talked to Rudy, himself. Newt isn't going to run.

291 posted on 02/11/2007 6:18:54 PM PST by nopardons
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To: AmeriBrit
...the first few pages on 'Google', you might be very surprised what you'll find pertaining to Hunters baggage. VERY SURPRISED!...

Since you've googled Hunter's name, seen the supposed baggage and made the vague charge, why don't you come right out and say what the baggage is?

292 posted on 02/11/2007 6:20:57 PM PST by FreeReign (Still waiting for the best conservative candidate.)
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To: Dog Gone; HuntsvilleTxVeteran
Dog Gone - Big Freekin' Deal.

Well PEMEX is the big deal that the "North American Union" and "Immigration Amnesty" is all about.

After all we are Capitalist. Plus with a larger land mass the new union could have a larger national debt, float more bond and tie up more land as collateral for that debt.

You think Nixon created the EPA back in 1973 was really about the environment?

I'm with HuntsvilleTxVeteran on this one and the OIL Companies.

__________________________

Bush Strongarms Mexico For Share Of Oil

_______________________


Pemex was created in 1938 after the nationalization of British and American oil interests in Mexico.

293 posted on 02/11/2007 6:21:58 PM PST by Major_Risktaker
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To: spunkets
Here is another quote:
294 posted on 02/11/2007 6:23:26 PM PST by FreeReign (Still waiting for the best conservative candidate.)
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To: NittanyLion
No, not at all.

I had already made up my mind who I wouldn't be fore, who I dismissed out of hand, for various reasons, and was looking at two candidates.

I came to Rudy threads to read the articles, saw the rabid, preposterous, specious posts, and refuted them. Then, after looking a bit more closely into Romney, I began to not like a few things I had learned.

I suggest that you at least attempt to refrain from baiting and smarmily hurling insults; it will avail you nothing.

295 posted on 02/11/2007 6:23:35 PM PST by nopardons
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To: TommyDale

No, Tommy, your post is what is completely and utterly the opposite of what it says.


296 posted on 02/11/2007 6:24:49 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Major_Risktaker

Yeah, whatever.

You ain't sucking me into your fantasy world.

And I work for an oil company.


297 posted on 02/11/2007 6:26:49 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: nopardons
I came to Rudy threads to read the articles, saw the rabid, preposterous, specious posts, and refuted them. Then, after looking a bit more closely into Romney, I began to not like a few things I had learned.

Thanks for clarifying that; it sounds a lot different than your previous post ("Their constant thread spamming, personal attacks on other posters, etc, is driving hundreds of people to side with Rudy! Heck, that's what happened to me!").

Heck, after the first post I almost thought that you decided to support Giuliani because you thrive on conflict! I'm sure glad you disabused me of that notion...

298 posted on 02/11/2007 6:28:07 PM PST by NittanyLion
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To: Major_Risktaker

Mexico has always been governed by looters.



http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1299642/posts


Looters of Mexico
self | December 12,2004 | self


Posted on 12/12/2004 6:26:54 AM CST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran


After spending several years starting oil exploration crews for Pemex and re-reading Atlas Shrugged, I think I have The reason Mexico has become so bad.

I like the Mexican people in the fly over parts of Mexico. The mid level and workers of Pemex are good. It is the government and the high up in Pemex that are the vultures and looters. The peso was about 8 cents (12.5 to a dollar) (old pesos).
When Pemex found the sito grande, a very large oil pool that covers parts of the states of Chiapas and Tabasco also a long ways into the Gulf of Mexico.

Pemex borrowed billions to produce this great oil find. The looters (government) stole most of the money and what they did buy was junk oil rigs and drill pipe, etc. 1,000 pesos which was worth about $80 now will not buy a coke. This was due to the looters stealing billions from the Mexican people.

Instead of overthrowing the looters the Mexican people had an out, they had no weapons and they could cross into America and have a much safer life. This hurts both Mexico and America as Mexico lost some of it's hardest workers. The gangbangers also came over from Mexico as they could rape and pillage at will.

The government of Mexico is propped up by the billions sent back by the illegals and by our government having borders that are too open.

The only chance I see to help America and Mexico is to seal the border, deport the people who are not here legally. We also need to arm the Mexican people so they can have a chance against the looters with their armies.


299 posted on 02/11/2007 6:28:27 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ("Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto")
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To: spunkets
Funny, you call what I posted to you libel, when I was just throwing your own words back at you; yet you feel absolutely NO compunction, at all, to spew out lies, libel, slander, and specious, carefully cherry-picked, BY OTHER POSTERS, I might add, codswallop about Rudy. How very telling! LOL

Do you believe in State's Rights?

Do you believe that elected officials MUST follow the law of the land?

Or do you really want, in your heart of hearts, not a president, but some kind of fairy tale genie, who will IMMEDIATELY undo/do whatever it is you think should be undone/done; irregardless off the laws of this land and the way our government has been set out to work?

300 posted on 02/11/2007 6:33:44 PM PST by nopardons
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