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Rudy Giuliani Has Got What You Need
411 ^ | 2/11/07

Posted on 02/11/2007 12:44:55 PM PST by areafiftyone

Rudy Giuliani Has Got What You Need


Posted by Mark Radulich on 02.15.2007



It won't matter what Giuliani thinks about about abortion if Iran drops a bomb on us. And quite frankly I'm much less worried about Islamic terrorism with President Giuliani in charge than President Brownback or Clinton.

The story right now being bandied about by the mainstream media and the talk radio world is that the GOP has no front-runner for the 2008 Presidential election or that the front-runners are not exactly inspiring anyone. The three most prominent names right now are obviously John McCain, Mitt Romney and Rudy Giuliani.

The reason these three contenders fail to ignite the imagination of their base is not because they aren't competent leaders or even forces to be reckoned with in terms of security but rather that they fail to meet the social conservative litmus test of Republican base. They are not anti-gay marriage, anti-abortion or anti-gun control enough for many social conservative voters to trust and therefore many just aren't excited enough to stand behind these while either Clinton or Obama make their way to the White House.


As I've said before, social voting in the age of world wide Islamic terrorism befuddles me. I suppose President Brownback could try and outlaw abortion but a world free of legally murdered babies doesn't stop Mohammed from blowing himself up outside of your local Starbucks. President Huckabee could save the institution of marriage for the next thousand years by sending all homosexuals to France forever but that has nothing to do with Iran or North Korea and the likely possibility that they will facilitate one of many terrorist groups getting their hands on a nuclear device. Stopping stem-cell research doesn't drop the bomb from being dropped on Israel or us for that matter so I fail to see how social vote should supercede security and foreign policy votes.

Let me explain it this way; You have what's called Maslow's Hierarchy of Human Needs, which is a theory in psychology that Abraham Maslow proposed in 1943 that states as humans meet 'basic needs', they seek to satisfy successively 'higher needs' that occupy a set hierarchy. Maslow wrote that "the study of crippled, stunted, immature, and unhealthy specimens can yield only a cripple psychology and a cripple philosophy." In other words, if your most basic needs weren't met, then your emotional, spiritual and psychological growth would be stunted or crippled.

Maslow's hierarchy of needs is typically represented as a pyramid with the more primitive needs at the bottom and consisting of five levels: the four lower levels are grouped together as deficiency needs associated with physiological needs, while the top level is termed growth needs associated with psychological needs. While deficiency needs must be met, growth needs are continually shaping behavior. The basic concept is that the higher needs in this hierarchy only come into focus once all the needs that are lower down in the pyramid are mainly or entirely satisfied. Growth forces create upward movement in the hierarchy, whereas regressive forces push prepotent needs further down the hierarchy.

As you can see from the pyramid shown above, the first two levels of need are physical survival needs such as water, food, sleep, warmth and exercise and safety and security needs. The other more ethereal needs don't come into play until those two levels have been met.

Now let's look at the candidate most likely to be beat Hillary Clinton should the Democrats opt to give her a run at the White House, former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani. Aside from the fact that he's the most like GOP candidate to actually win NY since probably the Reagan administration, Giuliani's record stacks up pretty well against the first two levels Maslow's hierarchy of needs.

As Mayor of the largest city and arguably the most important city in America, Giuliani had to manage the city public works efficiently and make the city livable for its residents. According to his campaign website, "Rudy Giuliani cut more taxes than any Mayor in New York City history, reducing or eliminating 23 city taxes, saving individuals and businesses a cumulative $8 billion, while reducing New Yorkers' tax burden by nearly 20%. By the end of Giuliani's term in office, New Yorkers enjoyed their lowest tax burden in three decades, along with the creation of approximately 425,000 new private sector jobs… When Rudy Giuliani took office, 59% of New Yorkers said they would leave the city the next day if they could, according to a CNN/Time poll. Drawing upon the "Broken Windows" theory of policing, the City cracked down on quality of life crimes such as aggressive panhandling, graffiti, and drug dealing, transforming places like Times Square into safe destinations for theatergoers and sightseers. The City launched an aggressive initiative against drunk drivers, and implemented a ban on sex shops within 500 feet of residential neighborhoods, churches, and schools. In addition, Mayor Giuliani acquired 2,038 acres of new parkland – the most in more than 50 years."


The former mayor also has a solid record on protecting children and increasing security in a city that once rivaled other big cities in rapes and murders. "Under Rudy Giuliani's leadership as Mayor of the nation's largest city, murders were cut from 1,946 in 1993 to 649 in 2001, while overall crime – including rapes, assaults, burglary and auto-thefts – fell by an average of 57%. According to the FBI, New York was transformed from the crime capital of the country into the Safest Large City in America, while becoming the global model for excellence in law enforcement. Rudy Giuliani believes that "Public safety is a fundamental civil right…when you reduce crime, you restore people's freedom."

Acting on his belief that "One of the most important responsibilities of government is to protect children from harm," Mayor Giuliani worked to create the city's first independent child welfare agency, reducing the foster care population by promoting a record number of adoptions, and doubling child support collections by cracking down on deadbeat dads, and implementing a program called HealthStat, which identified unenrolled children eligible for health insurance."

Giuliani obviously will be strong on domestic law and order issues as well as quality of life issue but the big question will be whether or not he has the gumption to fight Islamic terrorism worldwide. If his speeches are to believed and his actions concerning an anti-Semitic Saudi and a very large check are any indication then I believe Giuliani will be the kind of terror warrior many of us thought Bush would become.

The world has become too small to be so caught up in social policy voting. No matter who you vote in, either very liberal or very conservative, the fact of the matter is that abortion will never be prohibited in our lifetime but the likelihood of Iran or China starting a nuclear war is and the smart people of this country should be thinking about what kind of leader they want to be in charge when that does happen. When your most basic needs are being threatened and your livelihood is under attack from foreign invaders, who do you think is going to protect you and fight the enemy, Giuliani or Hillary Clinton? At the end of the day, social votes aside, Giuliani has got what every American needs – the ability to lead and manage this nation while fighting the enemy abroad.


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To: Nervous Tick

SEE? :-)


241 posted on 02/11/2007 5:25:26 PM PST by nopardons
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To: TommyDale

That's one guy. I'll need a list to establish a pattern.


242 posted on 02/11/2007 5:28:14 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Mr. Mojo; Peach; areafiftyone; BunnySlippers; PhiKapMom; Mia T; All
Post some more!

The people who weren't here then, need to read all of these threads and see, for themselves,who said what and when!

243 posted on 02/11/2007 5:29:38 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Dog Gone

Giuliani has shown weaknesses in personal decisions as well.
I could never trust someone who cannot control his own life to control the most powerful country in the world. He has demonstrated bad judgment in the past, and would be suspect in the future to many American voters, especially after they learn of many of his past errors in judgment. Remember, many people outside New York still think he is Mayor. LOL!


244 posted on 02/11/2007 5:31:30 PM PST by TommyDale (Who do you trust? An ex-mayor? Or the ranking member of the House Committee on Armed Services?)
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To: pookie18

I tend to like Huckabee and Gingrich, and that so far is it. Neither of them are anywhere in the polls. But that changes nothing in Giuliani, who he is, what he represents, and what he would do to this party if he wins.


245 posted on 02/11/2007 5:33:24 PM PST by Zack Nguyen
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To: areafiftyone
And that's just two, TWO links. There were 1,000s of such posts and probably almost the same number of threads!

We all know what happened later. LOL

246 posted on 02/11/2007 5:33:40 PM PST by nopardons
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To: TommyDale

A weird thing is happening.

I am feeling more and more obligated to defend Giuliani against what I consider to be unfair attacks, when I haven't even decided whether I'll support him or not.

I just don't like unfair attacks.


247 posted on 02/11/2007 5:35:47 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: areafiftyone

Any voter who think Rudi has the answers is smoking crack!!


248 posted on 02/11/2007 5:36:13 PM PST by GoldenPup
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To: kinoxi
Back to LYING, again; are you?

Keep it up and EVERYONE who reads FR will know you for the LIAR you are!

Wanna see "pathetic"? READ YOUR OWN POSTS!

249 posted on 02/11/2007 5:36:28 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Dog Gone

Anything that Rudy has done or said in the past is fair game, because it demonstrates his character and judgment. What do you consider an unfair attack, as compared to pointing out his record? He is a public figure, running for President. Anything in his past is fair game.


250 posted on 02/11/2007 5:38:25 PM PST by TommyDale (Who do you trust? An ex-mayor? Or the ranking member of the House Committee on Armed Services?)
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To: MetalHeadConservative35
Rudy Giuliani did not 'carry' anything after September 11th. The entire country and most of the civilized world gave their support. The middle managers of New York City and The United States of America got busy and took care of business.

Rudy Giluiani is anti gun, pro gay, pro abortion, pro welfare, divorced, cheated on his wife while he was mayor of New York, abused the constitution, and led a sickening nanny state to further power grabs and interference with individuals at every level.

Giuliani is the exact opposite of almost everything this board is supposed to support. The 'R' after his name is meaningless.

251 posted on 02/11/2007 5:38:32 PM PST by sig226 (See my profile for the democrat culture of corruption list.)
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To: spunkets

Is that why you want to help get Hillary elected? It all makes so much sense; now.


252 posted on 02/11/2007 5:38:34 PM PST by nopardons
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To: TommyDale

Yeah, including giving his pals contracts that they could NOT do, so they OUTSOURCED it to India; all the while screaming his PROTECT AMERICA AND AMERICAN JOBS.


253 posted on 02/11/2007 5:40:55 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons

You know what? I am to the point that I think I WOULD rather see Hillary elected over Rudy Giuliani. At least we would know who the enemy is, and keep an eye on her. How can we be expected to trust someone who doesn't even understand the 2nd Amendment?


254 posted on 02/11/2007 5:41:23 PM PST by TommyDale (Who do you trust? An ex-mayor? Or the ranking member of the House Committee on Armed Services?)
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To: DKNY

You'rewelcome. :-)


255 posted on 02/11/2007 5:42:05 PM PST by nopardons
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To: DKNY

You'rewelcome. :-)


256 posted on 02/11/2007 5:42:15 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons

Name one lie.


257 posted on 02/11/2007 5:42:35 PM PST by kinoxi
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To: DKNY

You're welcome. :-)


258 posted on 02/11/2007 5:42:35 PM PST by nopardons
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To: metalurgist
Hunter doesn't have the baggage




ROTFLMAOPIMPWTIME.....Try researching more than Hunters own website or the first few pages on 'Google', you might be very surprised what you'll find pertaining to Hunters baggage. VERY SURPRISED!

You'd better grab a box of Kleenex tissues first though as you'll need them.
259 posted on 02/11/2007 5:42:51 PM PST by AmeriBrit (#1 ISSUE....WIN THE WOT.)
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To: TommyDale
I am to the point that I think I WOULD rather see Hillary elected over Rudy Giuliani.

That's a problem. Repent.

260 posted on 02/11/2007 5:43:04 PM PST by PRND21 (R)
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