Congress poised to regulate tobacco (next week)

TimesDispatch.com ^ | Feb 9, 2007 | PETER HARDIN

[SheLion]

WASHINGTON -- Bipartisan legislation to give the federal Food and Drug Administration regulatory control over tobacco products may be introduced next week.

[bannie]

They're gonna' kill the goose that lays their golden eggs.

Switching metaphors...

A good parasite never kills its host.

[bannie]

I had more disposible income as a teenager than I've had at any time in my life.

AMEN! That's why advertisers of all kinds of products target teens! More bang for their advertising buck.

[EVO X]

Smokers just want to be left alone now. Yet you born-agains, having lost all awareness of the messiness that drives a free society, can't resist waving the banner of your neuroses as if it were a flag of victory.

I know how messy a free society is. I did my taxes today. My fellow citizens can raise my taxes just as they raise cigarette taxes and dictate where you can smoke.

I smoked for 20+ years. Quitting is a small victory. Hopefully, I can add a few years back on to the 10 to 15 years I am suppose to lose.

[Madame Dufarge]

My fellow citizens can raise my taxes just as they raise cigarette taxes and dictate where you can smoke.

How profoundly ignorant you are.

Hopefully, I can add a few years back on to the 10 to 15 years I am suppose to lose.

Your personal goals in life are hardly a sound basis for taxation or public policy by any responsible, adult standard.

[EVO X]

How profoundly ignorant you are.

You better take some time off from the smoking threads and brush up on current events. There are forces out there that want to raise your taxes, dictate your medical care, and charge you $10 a pack for smokes. Again, I am not one of them..

Good evening..

[SheLion]

And I hope you many more postings. However, I smoked for 27 years and this past October have been quit for eight (just counted it up since 2/11's my B-day) and I know from experience smoking isn't good for anyone. Those who think otherwise are only successful in deceiving themselves.

And I have smoked for 40 some years.  I don't drink and I am not fat........since I  lost my hubby I have to have SOME comfort in this life. (Over eating isn't good for anyone either, so what's you point? And excessive drinking will kill the liver!)

And why do you care anyway??!!!

[SheLion]

Thanks for this info. You didn't say what happened in Maine. I'll google it. Gov. Culver says this new tax will bring in and extra $140 million a year and at the same time save lives.

$140  million a year????  And save lives!!!!   LOL  To funny!!!!

Read how much Maine smokers are contributing to the states economy and this is BEFORE the last tax increase!!!

Maine Information

Tobacco Taxes Before the $2 dollar increase and before THIS increase

Maine's excise tax per pack of cigarettes: $1.000
Maine's excise tax collection for the
fiscal year ending June 2002: $95,006,000

Sales tax on tobacco products: 5.00%

Federal excise tax per pack of cigarettes: $0.39
Total federal excise tax collections in fiscal year 2002: $7,512,700,000

Comparing Excise Taxes on Cigarettes, Beer and Wine

Number of six-packs of beer that must be sold in Maine to produce the same state excise tax revenue generated by one carton of cigarettes: 50.8

Number of bottles of wine that must be sold in Maine to produce the same state excise tax revenue generated by one carton of cigarettes: 84.1

Master Settlement Agreement Payments To Date

$182,122,188 has been paid to Maine since the Master Settlement Agreement was signed on November 23, 1998.

[SheLion]

Since you're as passionate about it as you are, do you have sources for rolling your own, etc?

Oh yes.  Better believe it! (Also, there are MANY smokers rights groups all across the United States. So it's not just me that is so "passionate!!!!")

Can't stand the high taxes?

Afraid to order off of the Internet?

Then start rolling your own!!! I find everything but the machine downtown at the local Smoke Shop.  Also, Rite Aid and grocery stores also sell the bags of tobacco and the filtered tubes.

I roll out a beautiful carton for a little under $8 dollars.  Premiums in my state are now up to $45-$50 a carton.  Can you imagine the money I have saved over the past 4 years since I now roll my own?  It's mind boggling.

under $50.00

Check StuffYourOwn for prices on tobacco

$1.99 for 200 filtered tubes

Make your own cigarettes for as low as $6.99 per Carton! Smoke Quality FILTERED cigarettes that you make yourself using cigarette tubes (like a cigarette without the Cigarette tobacco), our cigarette making machines, and our "roll your own" cigarette tobacco.


-Stop Paying High Cigarette Taxes
-So Much Easier than "Roll Your Own" cigarettes!

and

Smokers United

Roll Your Own Tobacco Store

Roll Your Own Magazine

Darlene Brennan - The Smoker's Club, Inc. - New England Regional Director
The United Pro Choice Smokers Rights Newsletter - http://www.smokersclubinc.com
Maine Smokers Rights - http://www.geocities.com/shelioness/mainerights.html
mailto:darlene@maine.rr.com - Respect Freedom of Choice!

[SheLion]

Are you finished?

LOL! You never disappoint!

~tisk ~tisk

You act like I am the only one in here that is sticking up for smoker's rights!

Get a grip and pick on someone else, how about it?!

[SheLion]

That is a bigger problem than me making a few negative comments about smoking..

[Conservativegreatgrandma]

This is a huge increase. What happened to revenues as a result of this increase. That's the question. Iowa is only going to raise it $1.00. Have there been tax increases put on the general population because projected revenues did not materialize?

[SheLion]

The argument for premature death assumes that each of us is alloted a certain number of years and, if we don't make it, something intervened to put us down.

Yes, the notion that a birth certificate carries an expiration date and the only goal in life is meeting or exceeding that date is confounding to me.

It's as if life were some sort of term paper to be completed according to schedule - and then what?

The goal of dying in perfect health has been met?

Oh yessssssss

The argument for premature death assumes that each of us is alloted a certain number of years and, if we don't make it, something intervened to put us down.

Yes, the notion that a birth certificate carries an expiration date and the only goal in life is meeting or exceeding that date is confounding to me.

It's as if life were some sort of term paper to be completed according to schedule - and then what?

The goal of dying in perfect health has been met?

Oh yessssssss

[SheLion]

I'm eager to see these statistics; please, do cite them!

Me too!!!

<----fumes

[SheLion]

If by now there is one smoker who doesn't know that there is harm in smoking, he will die soon.

Our lives are in the Lord's Hands.  It's up to HIM when we die! And it won't matter one iota if we ever smoked or not!!!

[SheLion]

Why can't you whiners just declare victory and shut up?

She sure has it in for me, Madame Dufarge.  If you notice, I am the only one she comes after!

[SheLion]

It's not me whining and caterwauling, it's your side. Why do you think I come here. Its called schadenfrauden baby.

ahhhhhhhhhh BABY!!!!  NOW I get it!  You are in LOVE with MADAME!  LOL

It's not me whining and caterwauling, it's your side. Why do you think I come here. Its called schadenfrauden baby.

ahhhhhhhhhh BABY!!!!  NOW I get it!  You are in LOVE with MADAME!  LOL

[Ditter]

Look again, I didn't say that. Dufarge said that to ME. Stop looking for insults where there aren't any.

[SheLion]

Nowhere on any of these threads have I supported bans. I think I said about 5 times on this thread that I don't support bans. I guess you didn't read the entire thread.

Try googling smoking death statistics.

Once again...........why do you care?  You sure aren't paying for our heath insurance!!

[SheLion]

I'd have to put that comment in the category of the pot calling the kettle black.

And why do you care?????

[SheLion]

Failed? FAILED? Things get better and better for the non smokers and worse and worse for the smokers. Who is failing here?

And why do you care?????