Rudy’s a No-Go

nationalreview.com ^ | February 6, 2007 | Terence P. Jeffrey

[Hambone02]

“Murder and graffiti are two vastly different crimes,” Rudy Giuliani once said. “But they are part of the same continuum, and a climate that tolerates one is more likely to tolerate the other.”

Good point, Rudy.

Now, what about a climate — not to mention a Republican presidential candidate — that not only tolerates, but allows unelected judges to legalize the practice of delivering a child until only its head remains within its mothers womb so the child can be killed by sucking out its brains?

What about a climate where same-sex couples are given the same legal status as married couples, whether the resulting arrangements are candidly called “same-sex marriages,” or are semantically papered-over with terms such as “civil unions” or “domestic partnerships”?

[Hambone02]

Yeah. Like I've been saying: RUDY IS NO CONSERVATIVE!

[Patrick1]

The Romney crowd is heard from.

[Paige]

Good! Maybe some Conservatives need to WAKE UP!!!

[kjo]

If the GOP nominates McCain or Rudy G. millions of conservatives will seek a third party. Okay, so it elects Hillary. I DON'T CARE. We can get through four years of Hillary, we got through four years of Carter.

If the GOP thinks we have no where else to go, I have news for them: the Constitution Party is making a lot of sense. Google them.

[areafiftyone]

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[RC2]

Yeah, and he got rid of all the hookers in New York. Now what is a guy supposed to do when going there? There's just no justice in this world I tell ya.

[Hambone02]

Sorry. Didn't see it.

[Patrick1]

Okay, so it elects Hillary. I DON'T CARE

I guess for next eight years you don't plan on going into a skyscraper, riding on a subway, a bus, going to a wedding, eating in a cafe or hotel, going to a resort....etc. etc.

[familyop]

...true. Look at the evidence (instead of the rhetoric from Giuliani fans), and draft Gingrich/Duncan.

Newt Gingrich on the issues
http://www.ontheissues.org/Newt_Gingrich.htm

Duncan Hunter on the issues.
http://www.ontheissues.org/CA/Duncan_Hunter.htm

[swatter]

Quotes Yoda: "Eat their young do they? Hmmm, not a political party I want to be involved in. May the Force get with them!!"

[Hambone02]

This is the stupidest repetitive argument, yet apparently the best there is in support of Giuliani. His supporters don't have any reason to vote for him, except to keep out the Hildabeast. That is a very good reason, don't get me wrong. That said, I want a conservative in office, not a stealth liberal. I will vote for Rudy if he makes it through the primaries, but I am hoping he doesn't. Then, it will be to keep Hillary out. What we need is a true-blue (or should I say red) conservative candidate, not a watered down version of conservatism.

[gondramB]

>>What about a climate where same-sex couples are given the same legal status as married couples, whether the resulting arrangements are candidly called “same-sex marriages,” or are semantically papered-over with terms such as “civil unions” or “domestic partnerships”?<<

I'm not a Guiliani supporter and will never vote for him in the primary (although I'll certainly vote for the closest to true conservative in the general which might be Rudy if he gets the nomination.)

But there is an important distinction between same-sex marriage, civil unions and domestic partnerships.

The government has no business legalizing same sex marriage or civil unions - marriage is something we incent because we believe that is the best way to raise a family. Its not just same sex couples who can't marry - its also people with communicable VD, close relatives and people who are already married - because the government has no business encouraging those kinds of relationships.

Domestic partnerships are different. The doctrine of equal rights but no special rights dictates that any two (or three ) sane adults should be able to enter into a legally binding private contract and to hold whatever religious ceremony they wish. There are all kinds of people who form families other than one man/ one woman couples. Its not just same sex couples - it could be a Grandmother raising a grandchild or two elderly siblings carrying for each other. Everyone should be free to enter private agreements and form a family of choice but not to get government rewards for it.

[Hambone02]

That is exactly the ticket I'm looking for!!! Thank you. I was beginning to think I was an endangered species in FR.

[ExpatGator]

"I guess for next eight years you don't plan on going into a skyscraper, riding on a subway, a bus, going to a wedding, eating in a cafe or hotel, going to a resort....etc. etc."

I am armed everywhere I go and am not in the least bit limited by fear of terrorist attacks. We should all be armed, and Rudy is no friend of armed Americans.

[eleni121]

RUDY IS NO CONSERVATIVE!

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I'm with you on this but in these perilous times I would even vote for him rather than live to see any Democrap in the WH.

[basil]

You are correct in saying that the Constitution Party makes a lot of sense. However, a third party candidate always takes votes away from conservatives. Remember how we got Klintoon?

I really don't care a lot for Guiliani and won't vote for him in the primaries--but I'll take him over Hillary any day!

[SaxxonWoods]

"If the GOP thinks we have no where else to go, I have news for them: the Constitution Party is making a lot of sense. Google them."

The Naderite mirror image is out, oh goody.

The Constitution Party won't get squat for votes.

Presidents don't control abortion, Supreme Court Judges do. Rudy said he would appoint strict constructionist judges to the SC. Even if he appoints moderates, his appointments will be much better than the libs that Hillary will appoint.

A HILLARY PRESIDENCY WILL CEMENT LEGAL ABORTION ON DEMAND FOR 30 YEARS.

[Irene Adler]

"We can get through four years of Hillary, we got through four years of Carter."

I jujst don't understand this kind of thinking. Every time we get a leftist administration, things get done to this country that cannot be undone. We lose ground PERMANENTLY each time. Regarding Carter, remember the Panama Canal, how about Iran; a lot of the mess we are in right now is due to Carter. So, we got through him, did we? Sure we did. If we get Hillarycare under Hillary, no one will ever want it rescinded no matter how lousy it turns out because no one will want to give up their "free" healthcare, even if they have to wait YEARS to see a specialist. How about Bubba as pres., didn't he have a wonderful effect on the moral health of our society. The emboldened effect he had on the Hollywankers alone was worth the eight years. Yeah, that's what we get when some conservatives take their toys and go home if they don't get the nominee they want.

So you don't care, huh. Well, I do. A Hillary administration would be a disaster for this country; her personality is Stalinist; she is more leftist than Bill ever was, and in the bargain Bill will be hanging around the WH with nothing to do. Doesn't that sound inviting. Rudy ahead of Hillar-me, any day of the week, on so many levels, I can't go into them here.

[icwhatudo]

Only Rudy bots are allowed to repost articles and call in mods-didn't ya know? :)

[gondramB]

>>
I'm with you on this but in these perilous times I would even vote for him rather than live to see any Democrap in the WH.<<

What an irony that if were not the President's brother Jeb Bush would be a front runner.